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Horror string slide? 2009-07-05 09:34:23 Reply

I was wondering how the effect where the strings slide up (in horror films) is both notated in music, and produced in FL Studio.

This is one example, from the Titanic soundtrack. It starts at about 2:50. Any help would be appreciated!


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Response to Horror string slide? 2009-07-05 09:54:51 Reply

I hope this helps you. -KN

Horror string slide?


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Response to Horror string slide? 2009-07-05 10:03:34 Reply

At 7/5/09 09:54 AM, JinNJuice wrote: I hope this helps you. -KN

But that doesn't work with all VST's.
Couldn't you just make an automaton clip on the pitch ?


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Response to Horror string slide? 2009-07-05 14:02:11 Reply

That would be difficult to use, considering that you don't really know how much you slide the pitch. However, that method can also be used.

You could also probably sample the sound from the VST into a .wav file, and use the slide notes.


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Response to Horror string slide? 2009-07-05 17:48:55 Reply

Well I tried the first method, but that didn't work. It sounded nothing like what a real string slide would.
Second, what exactly is an automation clip?

And I realized I never gave the link to the example of the sound I was looking for. So, here it is!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN6QLNON9 rY

the slide starts at about 2:50


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Response to Horror string slide? 2009-07-05 18:04:30 Reply

A slide in notation is represented by a thick black line between two adjacent notes on the stave.

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Response to Horror string slide? 2009-07-16 12:58:51 Reply

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Response to Horror string slide? 2009-07-16 12:59:58 Reply

Isn't that a glissando?

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Response to Horror string slide? 2009-07-16 15:07:25 Reply

At 7/16/09 12:59 PM, SineRider wrote: Isn't that a glissando?

if that's what it's called, fine. I don't know, that's why I'm asking. I'm also wondering how to replicate the sound in FL.


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Response to Horror string slide? 2009-07-16 15:24:26 Reply

At 7/16/09 03:07 PM, varrin7 wrote: if that's what it's called, fine. I don't know, that's why I'm asking. I'm also wondering how to replicate the sound in FL.

Shouldn't this be in the FL questions thread?'

Regardless, doesn't that depend on the VST you're using? Some VSTs might have an option for this.

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Response to Horror string slide? 2009-07-16 16:24:44 Reply

It's a pitch bend going through what sounded like three octaves to my ears, it was done by having the string section (more than likely) split into 2 groups of strings, where one group slowly bends as another picks up, and then the first picks up again, etc. until it goes through the octaves. As for doing so in FL, I'd suggest using two instances of your orchestral string VSTi/Soundfont, full strings patch or violin and viola patch with chorus to thicken, since the example didn't sound to me like it included much of the bassiest strings. Then have the first instance play the root note, pitch bend up a 5th and as the 5th is finishing, lower the velocity of the first instance and bring in the second at that note and pitch again, and repeat until you reach the point you're looking for. If you don't know how to automate a knob in FL, I suggest watching this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk4wgFc59 s0

This is just one of the many ways to add automation, but I find it the most useful to show new users as it is incredibly simple and works for most VSTis and VSTFX. You would apply what he is saying about the Reverb Mix knob in REFX Nexus to the pitch knob in the FL channel setting window or in the Pitch adjustment within the VSTi you choose to apply a pitch bend through automation clip.

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Response to Horror string slide? 2009-07-16 22:02:17 Reply

yes it is.

also here is a way to do this, that sounded like a chord to me, so program your chord and find a pitch knob, press record as it goes over the notes and move the pitch knob up, the program will probably know that you are wanting to make that happen and it will record what is known as automation, which is a computer automater thing doing the knobs work.

you need to learn about automation in fl to accomplish this task effectively, most likely.

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Response to Horror string slide? 2009-07-17 03:02:46 Reply

In my East West Symphonic Orchestra VSTs this is called a "Violin Air" or "Cello clstr" - not sure what that means but that's what the VST calls it (actual name = F 18V CLSTRE & AIR) [18 violins]