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And it's within nobody's right to put a cap on creativity, get over the censorship; it's not a kids website.

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hentai is important to newgrounds thats how we get most of our hits and members (even though they wont admit it). plus anywone who thinks they an get rid of it is a fucking retard. especially you religous nuts.


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At 7/3/09 12:05 PM, bq wrote:
At 7/3/09 07:39 AM, ngman7 wrote:
At 7/3/09 07:31 AM, LegolaSS wrote: chill out... the reason it wasnt removed was the fact it was rated as adult and thus only adults should watch it... also the fact that they are cartoon gives them no real age at all... you can say that they look like children but the fact of the matter is you cant prove it...
I'm a Christian ...
Fuck off then. I think every adult-submission should say: "Not for Christians."

i agree....you're on teh interwebs...for that fact...newgrounds....religion doesn't really matter....

so what if you hate something? if you yell about your beilifs and what not...seeing as most of us hear shit like that everyday...you'll get trolled to hell (teehee :3 )

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At 7/3/09 02:19 PM, WadeFulp wrote: The Flash in question is very well done. I don't see it as being erotic I see it as being fucking hilarious.

I take it you aren't a Christian then?


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At 7/3/09 06:32 PM, ngman7 wrote:
At 7/3/09 02:19 PM, WadeFulp wrote: The Flash in question is very well done. I don't see it as being erotic I see it as being fucking hilarious.
I take it you aren't a Christian then?

What is the hell does having to be a christian have to do with the flash? I am a christian and i dont give a fuck about it.

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The best thing about Newground is that it isn't riddled with social norms and chooses not to be politically correct.

Through the flash portal and even the BBS itself it is shown that most of us wish not to conform to certain standards and pornography is a standard most of us don't care about. It really doesn't matter if its on the front page. Do you think that those pages that are supposed to confirm whether you're eighteen really work that well?

In the end Newgrounds is a unique site, and by limiting the to the norms it will ruin creativity and ultimately the site in itself.

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At 7/3/09 06:33 PM, vader316 wrote:
At 7/3/09 06:32 PM, ngman7 wrote:
At 7/3/09 02:19 PM, WadeFulp wrote: The Flash in question is very well done. I don't see it as being erotic I see it as being fucking hilarious.
I take it you aren't a Christian then?
What is the hell does having to be a christian have to do with the flash? I am a christian and i dont give a fuck about it.

'Cause that's not a very Christian attitude to take if he's okay with it.


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At 7/3/09 06:32 PM, ngman7 wrote:
I take it you aren't a Christian then?

Honestly, he probably just doesn't give two shits about how "immoral" it is like 90% of non-fanatics do.
If he isn't a Christian, does that automatically make him a horrible person? No, it doesn't.

That flash was hilarious, not really erotic. If you don't want to see it don't click on it, duh.


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At 7/3/09 06:37 PM, ngman7 wrote:
'Cause that's not a very Christian attitude to take if he's okay with it.

What if he's Catholic? Would that make it all right for him to be okay with it?


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At 7/3/09 07:11 PM, ThirdRain wrote:
At 7/3/09 06:37 PM, ngman7 wrote:
'Cause that's not a very Christian attitude to take if he's okay with it.
What if he's Catholic? Would that make it all right for him to be okay with it?

No-it's lolicon. If it was real child porn they'd get in trouble. It's the principle of the thing. Zone-Sama watches too many cartoons and reads way too many things into them, that's why he/she keeps coming out with these types of Flash entries.


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At 7/3/09 07:34 PM, ngman7 wrote:
At 7/3/09 07:11 PM, ThirdRain wrote:
At 7/3/09 06:37 PM, ngman7 wrote:
'Cause that's not a very Christian attitude to take if he's okay with it.
What if he's Catholic? Would that make it all right for him to be okay with it?
No-it's lolicon. If it was real child porn they'd get in trouble. It's the principle of the thing. Zone-Sama watches too many cartoons and reads way too many things into them, that's why he/she keeps coming out with these types of Flash entries.

and whats wrong with that people get what they want and zone-sama makes money. its win-win and theres nothing wrong with it. only idiots would have problems with it and try to take it down using various child agencies (like you).


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I nevered watched the flash but i saw a bit of the beginning and it had some pretty good animations and graphics, so i gave it a 5.

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o well its just the score they give it, although they should put it in a different portal or section of mature ratings

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At 7/3/09 08:33 PM, CrazedKiller-X wrote: Obviously Zone-Sama never reads the rules, explicit pornography use shouldn't be aloud on Newgrounds, his flashes are way to over-rated, like no effence, but he doesn't really have a life except making a hentai parody on almost anything...if you ask me, they should ban hardcore shit like this from Newgrounds, like maybe the occasional Dressup game but not like this or this

sigh.... Where in the rules does it say you have to watch the flashes that has Hentai in it? DONT WATCH IT. plain simple and to the point... If you dont like it. Then dont watch it.. What does bitching and complaining about hentai on the forums going to do? Nothing... So move on with your life.. Or what life you have.......

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At 7/3/09 08:07 PM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote:
At 7/3/09 07:34 PM, ngman7 wrote:
At 7/3/09 07:11 PM, ThirdRain wrote:
At 7/3/09 06:37 PM, ngman7 wrote:
'Cause that's not a very Christian attitude to take if he's okay with it.
What if he's Catholic? Would that make it all right for him to be okay with it?
No-it's lolicon. If it was real child porn they'd get in trouble. It's the principle of the thing. Zone-Sama watches too many cartoons and reads way too many things into them, that's why he/she keeps coming out with these types of Flash entries.
and whats wrong with that people get what they want and zone-sama makes money. its win-win and theres nothing wrong with it. only idiots would have problems with it and try to take it down using various child agencies (like you).

But you're okay with pedophilia whether it's real or not?
Zone also made a Flash game in which a grown woman is having sex with a middle-school aged kid. There's a handful of Naruto hentai Flashes-kids having sex with adults.


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At 7/3/09 09:13 PM, ngman7 wrote:
At 7/3/09 08:07 PM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote:
At 7/3/09 07:34 PM, ngman7 wrote:
At 7/3/09 07:11 PM, ThirdRain wrote:
At 7/3/09 06:37 PM, ngman7 wrote:
'Cause that's not a very Christian attitude to take if he's okay with it.
What if he's Catholic? Would that make it all right for him to be okay with it?
No-it's lolicon. If it was real child porn they'd get in trouble. It's the principle of the thing. Zone-Sama watches too many cartoons and reads way too many things into them, that's why he/she keeps coming out with these types of Flash entries.
and whats wrong with that people get what they want and zone-sama makes money. its win-win and theres nothing wrong with it. only idiots would have problems with it and try to take it down using various child agencies (like you).
But you're okay with pedophilia whether it's real or not?
Zone also made a Flash game in which a grown woman is having sex with a middle-school aged kid. There's a handful of Naruto hentai Flashes-kids having sex with adults.

im not fine with pedophila but hentai doesn't count its freaking art and you are probbably refering to the Haruko hentai game and the Naruto flashes. and hentai isn't hurting anyone so what's wrong its not real so whats it matter?


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Stop your bitching. If you're that concerned makes some flash that would direct people away from that.

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At 7/3/09 09:26 PM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote:
im not fine with pedophila but hentai doesn't count its freaking art and you are probbably refering to the Haruko hentai game and the Naruto flashes. and hentai isn't hurting anyone so what's wrong its not real so whats it matter?

It's still sexual perversion, whether it's real or not.


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At 7/3/09 09:30 PM, ngman7 wrote:
At 7/3/09 09:26 PM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote:
im not fine with pedophila but hentai doesn't count its freaking art and you are probbably refering to the Haruko hentai game and the Naruto flashes. and hentai isn't hurting anyone so what's wrong its not real so whats it matter?
It's still sexual perversion, whether it's real or not.

its perfectly natural. seeing naked people. christianity made that into a taboo, look at ancient greece where homosexuailty and multiple wives were perfectly natural and it worked for hundreds of years with barely any harm done.


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At 7/3/09 09:26 PM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote: im not fine with pedophila but hentai doesn't count its freaking art and you are probbably refering to the Haruko hentai game and the Naruto flashes. and hentai isn't hurting anyone so what's wrong its not real so whats it matter?

just save your breath man, i already used that argument on him and he just dodges the bullet

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The bible says nothin' aboub pr0n or jackin' it. Unless you're catholic.

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plus public bath houses (hundred of people being naked infront of people bathing, working out, and reading) which was perfectly acceptable) of course most greek inventions like democracy and other things influenced the Western culture.


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At 7/3/09 09:35 PM, kylenitz wrote: The bible says nothin' aboub pr0n or jackin' it. Unless you're catholic.

Catholics suck

I've said it once before:

Why masturbation is bad:

Non-spiritual points about masturbation

1. Masturbation is addictive! I encourage anyone who doubts masturbation is addictive to see how many weeks or months they can go without masturbating. We know now that sexual addictions are in fact self-induced drug addictions. The chemicals our bodies release during sexual arousal create the same effect on the brain as drugs. Repeated masturbation reinforces a brain chemistry loop of addiction. (ref: Exposing Porn: Science, Religion, and the New Addiction, Paul Strand. www.cbn.com, April 2004) As with drug addiction, masturbation requires an increasing amount of stimulus to achieve consistent levels of pleasure. This can lead to both an increased frequency of the habit and a never-ending search for new material to enhance the experience.

2. Masturbation conditions our bodies to respond to self-stimulation, which is self-centered. This damages our ability to relate to another person sexually. Sex is a relational experience, where we give attention to another person's needs at least as much as to our own. If we've been serving our own desires habitually, we may find it difficult to give our partner the attention he or she desires. Additionally, the hormones released in the brain during sexual arousal cause a bonding to whatever we are looking at and/or thinking about at the time. This can cause us to be more sexually responsive to masturbation (and its associated fantasies) than to real sex.

3. Masturbation causes sexual imbalance: Masturbation stirs up our sexual emotions and trains our bodies to seek sexual release more frequently than normal. Common sense tells us that there should be a balance between sex and the other activities in our lives. Masturbation disrupts that balance by training our bodies and minds to expect gratification more frequently than normal. Like a feedback loop in an amplifier, the imbalance between reality and fantasy can likely drive a person further into the addiction.

The sexual imbalance can also affect other areas of our lives by diverting energy, time and resources into sexual activity. For example, a man stays up late each night to surf for porn to masturbate to. His job performance suffers because he can't stay awake during the day, his family life sours because he's grouchy, his wife is alienated from him by his lack of affection and interest in her, and his debt increases because of the credit card charges from the porn sites he's visiting to feed his habit.

The people most likely to suffer from the imbalance are people who don't have a regular provision for sexual intimacy (e.g. teens, singles, divorced persons, widowed persons, persons in sexually dysfunctional marriages). Ironically, these are the same people that may be strongly tempted to indulge in porn and masturbation. If they whet their appetite by indulging, chances are that they could easily get hooked in the addictive cycle that the imbalance creates.

Spiritual points about masturbation

For Christians, there are some important issues we need to address concerning masturbation. The foundational question is, "Are you committed to honoring God with your life?" If you are, then I urge you to carefully consider the points presented in this section.

Let's first examine the typical sins that accompany masturbation: lust and sexual idolatry. These may not be involved in every case, but they usually are.

Lust

Definitions from Webster's 9th New Collegiate Dictionary:

* (n) Intense or unbridled sexual desire, lasciviousness...an intense longing: craving
* (v) to have an intense desire or need, crave

Obvious examples of lust during masturbation include looking at pornography and fantasizing about sex. As we can see from the definitions, lust can simply be an intense longing or craving. It may not even be a conscious thought, but simply a gut feeling of the flesh.

Sexual Idolatry

Definition of idolatry from Webster's 9th New Collegiate Dictionary:

* (n) Immoderate attachment or devotion to something

Definitions of idol from Webster's 9th New Collegiate Dictionary:

* A likeness of something
* A form or appearance; visible but without substance
* An object of extreme devotion
* A representation or symbol of an object of worship
* A false conception; fallacy

When we look at porn or form sexual images by memory or imagination during masturbation, we are basically feeding an immoderate attachment or devotion to the idol of sex. Such attachment and devotion is greatly reinforced by the pleasurable brain chemicals released during sexual arousal and orgasm.

Idolatry is sin (Exodus 20:3-5) and it can bring unpleasant consequences, such as demonic oppression and generational curses. God's primary command to us is that we love him with all our heart, soul and mind (Matthew 22:36-38). I suggest that it is impossible to love God with all our heart, soul and mind when we are idolizing sex images in our eyes and thoughts!

Having discussed lust and sexual idolatry, we can now explore the spiritual impact of masturbation.

1. Masturbation causes you to be "mastered" by sin: The Bible says that there are only two things that we can be a slave to: sin or righteousness. There are no other masters. Paul wrote:

Do you not know that if you yield yourselves to any one as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? Romans 6:16 NKJV

Which master does masturbation bring us under? In almost every case, it is used to complement sins of lust or sexual idolatry and will therefore enslave us to sin.

God does not want us to be mastered by sin. For example, he told Cain, "If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door. And its desire is for you, but you should rule over it" (Genesis 4:7 NKJV). Cain failed and sin ruled him for the rest of his life. After killing his brother, he lost his job, his peace, his home, and his blessing and spent the rest of his days as a "restless wanderer" (Genesis 4:12).

Likewise, we have the same opportunity to choose our master. If we choose sin as our master, our life will bear the fruit that sin brings - i.e. destruction, sorrow, dissatisfaction, death, etc.. If we choose righteousness as our master, we will reap life! Paul wrote:

20When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the control of righteousness. 21What benefit did you reap at that time from the things you are now ashamed of? Those things result in death! 22But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life. 23For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." Romans 6:20-23 NIV

2. Masturbation uses your body as an instrument for sin: Your body is to be presented and used as an instrument for righteousness, not sin. Paul wrote:

Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in its lusts. And do not present your members as instruments of unrighteousness to sin, but present yourselves to God as being alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God Romans 6:12-13 NKJV

God can best use us when we keep our "vessels" (body, soul & spirit) free of sin. Paul wrote:

In a large house there are articles not only of gold and silver, but also of wood and clay; some are for noble purposes and some for ignoble. If a man cleanses himself from the latter, he will be an instrument for noble purposes, made holy, useful to the Master and prepared to do any good work. Flee the evil desires of youth, and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, along with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart. 2 Timothy 2:20-22


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what about my posts ngman7 or are you just dodging my arguement because your trolling?


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At 7/3/09 09:44 PM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote: what about my posts ngman7 or are you just dodging my arguement because your trolling?

It's what GOD says about it. Jesus said to flee sexual immorality, and to shun the appearance of evil, and if you love God to keep His Commandments.

I'm not going to grieve God looking at porn. You know if you watch porn, at some point you're going to entertain thinking about it.

Rule 34 is nothing new-they've been doing that for over a decade.


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At 7/3/09 09:44 PM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote: what about my posts ngman7 or are you just dodging my arguement because your trolling?

I hope he is trolling. Because then I wouldn't feel bad about being too lazy to dispel all of those bullshit claims.


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