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Why has there been so many religion threads today?!

What are you talking about? The show isn't THAT bad.

You're posting this in the wrong Forums.

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At 6/26/09 09:53 PM, yurgenburgen wrote:

At 6/26/09 09:50 PM, lVlad wrote: Thats right atheist. I dont.

Do you really think atheists give a shit whether you believe in the big bang or not?

Exactly, most atheists (that i have met) are intelligent people who have made an educated decision as to why they're atheists. Thus them not giving two shits as to what some snotty brat thinks.

Too bad true atheists don't give a shit. Only the bandwagon "atheists" who just think its cool and hip do that shit.

At 6/26/09 10:19 PM, psychicpebble wrote: I hate how some atheists go into deep conversations and act like they know everything and they know for a fact that you're wrong.

If I claimed to you that Australia doesn't exist, and you were to prove me wrong by using hard evidence, I wouldn't accuse you of acting like you 'knew everything'. I would either ignore your evidence and stick to my ignorant, misguided beliefs (the religious way) or I would accept your evidence and alter my beliefs accordingly.

It just gets irritating, they've never been dead

Well observed.

and don't know for certain how we got here or anything like that.

No, but at least atheists and scientists are actually making an effort to find out how we got here. If an inconsistency is found within a scientific theory, the scientists acknowledge and learn from it, and continue their research in another direction.

Creationists don't do this. When a contradiction or inconsistency is pointed out in their ideas, they will do one or more of the following:

Ignore it.
Claim that the nonsense in question is meant to be interpreted differently, or that it is open to interpretation.
Complain that they are being victimised.
Say that the person criticising their claim/s is "acting like they know everything".
Become aggressive.
Otherwise fail to acknowledge their ignorace.

They act so cocky and copy and paste facts from wikipedia...

Firstly, the knowledge it takes to refute a creationist's claims is so basic and logical that most people wouldn't need to do any kind of wikipedia-based research in order to make their point.

Secondly, even if what you said was true, so what? Copying and pasting a fact doesn't make that fact any less valid or accurate. And, if such information is so easily available that you can find it on Wikipedia, why are creationists refusing to acknowledge this information?

That's fucking great, keep your goddamn opinions to yourself, we Atheists don't go around ranting on about our beliefs, so why should you. Keep your religious beliefs in your blogs or diary. Religion needs to stop being such a big deal, it's beliefs that should be kept to one's self and the choice of whoever wants religion to choose what they want to worship or not.

Okay, i'm pretty sure that i'm biased on this one, so I'll only ask questions and not (try) to offend anyone.
First, can anyone post a link to this theory of expansion? I probably won't believe it,(due to the fact that it won't be written for anyone without a ph.d in astrophysics), but I'd like to see it anyway.
Second, I'm currently working hard on a flash animation. When it's done, I can absolutely declare that it could have existed on its own without an artist to make it. From all reasonable observation, can anything in our universe continually build itself into a state of organized complexity instead of falling apart? And, if it did build itself up first, why is it now breaking apart?
Thirdly, ask yourself if it is possible to be unbiased. It's in our nature to be biased, whether it is toward truth or lies. It's based on the information that seems most probable. Also ask yourself if it is possible for the scientists making these incredible discoveries can do so without preconceptions about the known universe. People have this knack for conjuring ONLY the facts that support their guesses, rather than the ones they don't understand.
Lastly, I don't start or add to forum wars, so please try to see this as a civil answer to a valid argument. If anyone would care to my opinions, I can post them and research the facts behind them(I don't memorize them.)
If you've made it this far, thank you for reading.

I really don't see why people fight over religions. Oh big shit, he believes in Christianity but he believes in Atheism. Oh, they MUST fight just because they are diffrent religions. Fuck.

Why does any of this matter until we're actually dead? Why do we waste our whole lives arguing about what happens when we're dead until we die? I just think it's stupid actually. Because nobody's mind ever gets changed in the process of the flame war. Why don't we all just keep our opinions to ourselves?

Just to correct an error on my last post, I meant "I can absolutely declare that it(flash animation) COULD NOT exist without an artist to create it. Sorry for the typo; i'm typing on a phone.

At 6/27/09 12:05 AM, bagle wrote: Why does any of this matter until we're actually dead? Why do we waste our whole lives arguing about what happens when we're dead until we die?

We're not arguing about what happens when we are dead. We're debating the origin of the universe, and the explanation for how things happen, why things happen, etc. The reason why the "what happens when we're dead" question comes into it because the actual belief in an afterlife often tends to have a lot of other religious beliefs attached to it.

But of how can there be a Gnab Gib without a Big Bang?

At 6/26/09 09:51 PM, Ansel wrote: what is the point of this thread

i dont think that there is any....

We have theories, nobody actually knows for 100%, not even scientist, so to say you're correct is ignorant.

And you think Newgrounds, Atheists, or anyone else gives a shit why?

At 6/27/09 01:28 AM, Armerad wrote: And you think Newgrounds, Atheists, or anyone else gives a shit why?

Because he's on large quantities of LSD.

At 6/26/09 09:53 PM, yurgenburgen wrote:

At 6/26/09 09:50 PM, lVlad wrote: Thats right atheist. I dont.

Do you really think atheists give a shit whether you believe in the big bang or not?

apparently they do since i actually get harrassed and sworn at online for saying that i simply dont believe in it.

At 6/26/09 10:03 PM, MrPercie wrote: I mean yes there is a god and a heaven because other wise death would be pointless and wed all be killing our selfs

This sentence has negative logic.

Does it matter if you believe in it or not?

It happened million of years ago. You won't live long enough to see how the world will end.

Can't there be a compromise on beliefs? Can't someone believe in evolution and God?!

Most church's recognize the big bang theory as a true event

At 6/26/09 09:50 PM, lVlad wrote: your not an idiot if you dont

You're not an idiot if you don't

I fix'd that for you.

At 6/27/09 10:35 AM, nihilii wrote:

At 6/26/09 09:50 PM, lVlad wrote: your not an idiot if you dont

You're not an idiot if you don't

I fix'd that for you.

I am assuming you are angry over a misunderstanding. I am not against normal atheists. I am against atheists which are disrespectful. Yes, religious people are disrespectful also. When an atheist is disrespectful on newgrounds when someone mentions they are Christian or Muslim, they think it is okay because they belong to the "smart" way of thinking and religious people are idiots because they do not conform to modern scientific thinking which may change like it is known to throughout history. Two wrongs do not make a right. Remember that saying from elementary school? Show tolerance to the religious and they will probably show tolerance to you. Did i start out flaming atheists? No, i started out flaming a certain type of atheists.

At 6/27/09 10:41 AM, lVlad wrote: words

I was pointing out that you should learn to spell before you go trying to interrupt such grandiose things as creation theory's.

At 6/27/09 10:46 AM, nihilii wrote:

At 6/27/09 10:41 AM, lVlad wrote: words

I was pointing out that you should learn to spell before you go trying to interrupt such grandiose things as creation theory's.

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theories

At 6/26/09 09:53 PM, yurgenburgen wrote:

At 6/26/09 09:50 PM, lVlad wrote: Thats right atheist. I dont.

Do you really think atheists give a shit whether you believe in the big bang or not?

Obviously they do, or else they wouldn't do around saying "I'm an athiest, I don't believe in God, It was all an explosion in outerspace, oh and btw im a fag for being an athiest." so, I just won this argument. why should you have to fight about what you believe unless you aren't really sure you're right?

At 6/26/09 09:51 PM, Ansel wrote: what is the point of this thread

Yeah I agree. This thread does seem pretty pointless if ya ask me.

At 6/26/09 10:03 PM, MrPercie wrote: Bullshit.

Shut your fuckin mouth.