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Response to General News Things 2009-06-27 06:41:27 Reply

At 6/27/09 06:25 AM, Esn wrote: The scout system does have its advantages - for one thing, very importantly, it builds connections, which ratings do not do. Ratings have failed in the music portal, so I can see why they decided to try something new.

I wasn't aware that a rating scheme hadn't worked in the music portal, thanks for the info.

I'm all for building connections, but I'm not sure tying that into an admission system is a great idea. I would say that the "Friends/Watchers" and "Favorites" systems on deviantART, for instance, work very well as connection systems--not to mention their really robust notification system--but they aren't used as an admission system; relying on networking/connections as an admission system seems inherently at risk of favoritism, whoring, etc.

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Response to General News Things 2009-06-27 08:02:49 Reply

The easiest way to fix the scouting system is to make it so only certain people can scout.

Admin approved people.

At a later date these people can then vote to add a new scouter to their ranks who is granted the same abilities as them.

But its a GROUP vote made by appointed individuals

either way its too late to fix now

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Response to General News Things 2009-06-27 08:33:20 Reply

I completely forgot to look at this!
That boy and girl ratio is funny, I guess gaming isn't a girls thing.


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Response to General News Things 2009-06-27 08:57:11 Reply

At 6/26/09 02:57 PM, TomFulp wrote: Male: 95.9%
Female: 4.1%

I knew the female population in NG is relatively low, but I was surprised to see that it was this low. O_O;;
Anyhow, I'm happy to represent that little 4.1% bit. :P

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Response to General News Things 2009-06-27 08:58:00 Reply

At 6/27/09 08:57 AM, Mahiru wrote:
At 6/26/09 02:57 PM, TomFulp wrote: Male: 95.9%
Female: 4.1%
I knew the female population in NG is relatively low, but I was surprised to see that it was this low. O_O;;
Anyhow, I'm happy to represent that little 4.1% bit. :P

Tities or gtfo.
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Response to General News Things 2009-06-27 09:06:20 Reply

At 6/27/09 08:02 AM, ZekeySpaceyLizard wrote: The easiest way to fix the scouting system is to make it so only certain people can scout.

Admin approved people.

At a later date these people can then vote to add a new scouter to their ranks who is granted the same abilities as them.

But its a GROUP vote made by appointed individuals

either way its too late to fix now

That will greatly limit the growth of the Art Portal and will mean that most good works will remain in the unscouted section. Growth will be exponential, and no small group of people will be able to keep up with all of it. It needs to be at least somewhat automated.

Here's another suggestion: have a sort of "judgment period" for each new scout that requires a certain # of votes from other scouted artists: "yes" or "no".

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Response to General News Things 2009-06-27 09:12:50 Reply

A lot of those statistics seem pretty close to what i expected they would be. No suprises here.

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Response to General News Things 2009-06-27 09:42:07 Reply

This data helps explain a lot about the content that NG users submit.

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Response to General News Things 2009-06-27 10:22:49 Reply

I'm surprised that people are surprised at the low number of female users. I thought it was quite high, I mean there are barely any female regulars here. The amount of females that have been to this site to play the odd game or wtch the odd movie in a link would be a completly different ratio, but in terms of regular users most people here could probably not name more than 10 regular female users.

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Response to General News Things 2009-06-27 10:34:08 Reply

that girl boy thing says alot about us

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Response to General News Things 2009-06-27 10:46:37 Reply

At 6/26/09 02:59 PM, BananaBreadMuffin wrote:
At 6/26/09 02:57 PM, TomFulp wrote: Male: 95.9%
Female: 4.1%
Hmmm, it apperas that 4.1% of people are CHRONIC LIARS.

don't you call me a liar>:(
and why is it that acording to you females can't be newgrounders?!?!?!
tsk... just tipical>:(


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Response to General News Things 2009-06-27 11:17:57 Reply

This site needs moar girls.

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Response to General News Things 2009-06-27 11:18:57 Reply

Thanks for posting some snippets of data from the survey, Tom. I wish you hadn't snipped out the PC % on the game consoles answer, though. And included the Steam/WiiWare/XBL/PSN store results, too. Good stuff, though.

At 6/26/09 03:21 PM, Zerok wrote:
At 6/26/09 02:57 PM, TomFulp wrote: Age
18-24: 38.7%
This stat is the most shocking of them all, I'd reckon.

So said you on page 1.... and then about 5 more people for the next few pages. Why, because you (like some of the others outright stated) suspect people lied about being 18-24, and are really underage?

Possible, but... personally, I'm not surprised. Most of my friends on NG are 18-24, with a few in my own bracket of 25-34 or whatever it was in the survey.

The total under-24 crowd added up to 94% or so, and I thought that was a little high. As recently as 3-4 years ago, there were quite a lot of late 20s, 30s, and even a few 40somethings around. That said, maybe the older you are on NG, the less likely you are to take a survey. :::shrugs:::

At 6/26/09 05:04 PM, MoriChax wrote: At 6/26/09 02:57 PM, TomFulp wrote
Female: 4.1%
I thought it would at least be a little higher.
Oh well.. Hi from one of your 4.1% females.

Moar females should take the survey, clearly. As much as people love to repeat the sausage-fest meme about either NG or the internet in general, I suspect the actual % of female VIEWERS of NG is higher than 4.1%. Now, whether the ACCOUNT HOLDERS who are female number more than 4.1% is another matter. I tried to get my fiancee to take this survey, but she didn't want to, and since she doesn't have an NG account, though she occasionally watches videos in the portal, she wasn't really the target audience for the survey.

Actually, though, that's another thing Tom should have posted: how people answered the "do you have an account?" question. I bet it was 95% yes, 5% no. Or something similar. But even more skewed than the "are you under or over 24" or the "are you male or female" ones, I bet.


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Response to General News Things 2009-06-27 11:22:59 Reply

At 6/26/09 06:39 PM, Fezz wrote:
Wii: 50.5%
DS: 60.5%
This must change. Now.

Why? To satisfy your anti-Nintendo and/or pro-whatever fanboy impulses? We ain't changing for you, sorry.

At 6/26/09 07:13 PM, Mizox wrote: now, 50% of us have wiis, even more than own 360s, so that tells me you should release your next game for wiiware, I'd buy it!

If Castle Crashers came to WiiWare, I'd buy it the same day. I've never played it and would love to.

At 6/26/09 10:41 PM, TrantaLocked wrote:
At 6/26/09 02:57 PM, TomFulp wrote: Xbox 360: 45.6%
PS3: 21.1%
Wii: 50.5%
DS: 60.5%
PSP: 32.2%
You have got to be kidding me. The DS is at 60%??? People just don't know how to save up money. And I also had no idea the Wii was so popular, and most of my friends have either a PS3 or 360. I guess all the 10 year olds on this site filled out the survey.

The DS is one of the biggest selling portables in modern gaming history. Why is it shocking that 60% of users responding to a survey on NG, a site primarily about flash movies and flash games in fairly even balance... would own such a popular (and low cost) item?

Also, I'm one of the people who checked off the Wii/DS and didn't check off the PS3 and 360 (too expensive + I already have a gaming PC, don't need redundant PC-ish consoles), and I'm about to turn 32. You need to reevaluate your ageism, it might be directed a bit off the mark.... It's hilarious that you're a 15 year old looking down at 10 year olds, also.

At 6/27/09 03:19 AM, seansobes wrote: the ds is 60%?
what the fuck. how many kids are on this site?

Goddamned ageists. Go get a room with Tranta and Fezz whydontcha.


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Response to General News Things 2009-06-27 11:44:41 Reply

At 6/27/09 08:02 AM, ZekeySpaceyLizard wrote: The easiest way to fix the scouting system is to make it so only certain people can scout.

Admin approved people.

At a later date these people can then vote to add a new scouter to their ranks who is granted the same abilities as them.

But its a GROUP vote made by appointed individuals

either way its too late to fix now

nice idea, however, this does mean that the selected scouters need to go through a huge pile of shitty submissions to find some good stuff,

which is tiresome as fuck

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Response to General News Things 2009-06-27 12:11:36 Reply

95.9% gays.


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Response to General News Things 2009-06-27 12:13:20 Reply

Proud to be one of the 4.1% :D

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Response to General News Things 2009-06-27 13:17:32 Reply

At 6/27/09 12:13 PM, evil-muffin-stories wrote: Proud to be one of the 4.1% :D

Same here :)

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Response to General News Things 2009-06-27 13:44:45 Reply

The new flash JINXED posted By ZONE-SAMA has been flagged by another user and has been stolen.

Tom, or Wade ----- Please help us!

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Response to General News Things 2009-06-27 14:46:29 Reply

Aw man, there isn't really any kids on NG? Damn it I knew I was alone. :(


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Response to General News Things 2009-06-27 15:06:47 Reply

At 6/26/09 02:58 PM, Peaceblossom wrote: I like that male-female ratio. Says a lot about the community :P

yeah, ng is a saucege fest

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Response to General News Things 2009-06-27 15:07:00 Reply

At 6/26/09 02:57 PM, TomFulp wrote:
Male: 95.9%
Female: 4.1%

silly tom, there are no girls on the internet! Those are just boys that are pretending to be girls :P

Age

Under 16: 28.8%
16-17: 26.8%
18-24: 38.7%

hey, what about us users that are over 25??

In other news, ThoseSneakyFrench has been putting together quite the NG computer case!

damn those french, when will they learn?

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Response to General News Things 2009-06-27 15:33:42 Reply

Needs more girl.


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Response to General News Things 2009-06-27 15:58:47 Reply

At 6/27/09 03:07 PM, Chronamut wrote:
At 6/26/09 02:57 PM, TomFulp wrote: Under 16: 28.8%
16-17: 26.8%
18-24: 38.7%
hey, what about us users that are over 25??

Not enough of us answered the damned survey, we were the remaining 6% or so and each range was such a tiny x.x% that Tom didn't bother quoting that info. ;_;

Same reason, apparently, that he didn't bother quoting the PC gamers line along with the MS/Sony/Nintendo info.... musta been pretty small, which saddens me way, way more than that few 25+s answered the survey.

It also makes one wonder if the only PC gamers in this day and age are all 25+, too, and when we die off, so will PC gaming.... (sigh)


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Response to General News Things 2009-06-27 16:47:34 Reply

At 6/26/09 03:24 PM, DonDuDonDon wrote:
At 6/26/09 03:17 PM, Bryan wrote: Xbox 360 is dominating! >=3
Xbox 360: 45.6%
Wii: 50.5%
DS: 60.5%

Wait, what?

damn you nintendo faggots xD


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Response to General News Things 2009-06-27 16:48:53 Reply

At 6/26/09 02:57 PM, TomFulp wrote: The Real Silent Hill Meetup is happening today and tomorrow! If you live near Centralia, PA, you can come visit a town with an ever-burning mine fire and hang out with a bunch of local NG folks.

If you live in Boston, check out the Boston meetup thread.

We've been watching the Art Portal and making changes to fine-tune it. Please note that works in progress and pencil sketches should only be showcased on your user page and not included in the public Art Portal listing. You also now need at least four submissions before you are eligible for scouting and approved artists can only scout two users per day at the moment, so use those scouts wisely!

The Power of Three summer event is ongoing and there are some amazing games in the works! HappyHarry and Egoraptor have been at the office this past week working on art for their games. Afro-Ninja was here for a few days developing the engine for his game with Ego. The-Swain was here as well, fleshing out plans with PsychoGoldfish and Liljim, also visiting this week. I'll be emailing all the teams when we're ready to take the next big step forward. For now, keep plugging away so you have the potential for some good teaser screenshots!

Over 8,500 people filled out the survey!

Here are some glimpses of data from the people who answered:

Male: 95.9%
Female: 4.1%

Age

Under 16: 28.8%
16-17: 26.8%
18-24: 38.7%

Game Consoles

Xbox 360: 45.6%
PS3: 21.1%
Wii: 50.5%
DS: 60.5%
PSP: 32.2%

In other news, ThoseSneakyFrench has been putting together quite the NG computer case!

Cool, but I live all the way in Oklahoma. D:
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Response to General News Things 2009-06-27 17:18:41 Reply

95 and 4% xD kool
I've done this survey (uh cool who cares lol)
Xbox pawah :D (even if actually I want a ps3 but it's too expensive :o)

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Response to General News Things 2009-06-27 17:27:33 Reply

At 6/26/09 02:57 PM, TomFulp wrote: Male: 95.9%
Female: 4.1%

The sad thing is, out of the 4.1% of females, I bet half of them were lying.


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Response to General News Things 2009-06-27 17:40:32 Reply

Oh I did not know that the female users were that low only Female: 4.1%! and no older users were featured what a shame. I did do the survey shame about the lack of females being so low. I know this is mostly male but still its a bit of a shock about the lack of us females. I did not lie I really have my age 26! and female! yes rare on here I know. I wish the gap was not so high.


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Response to General News Things 2009-06-27 17:47:32 Reply

Female: 4.1%

Age

Under 16: 28.8%
16-17: 26.8%
18-24: 38.7%

Now this did surprise me I guessed the it would have been mostly under 16 but the most was 18-24 was 38.7% surprising and interesting.


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