Israel/Palestine Analogy

[Ranger2]

Here is why I don't believe a two-state solution will work. Here's an analogy why.

You decide to move from the city to build a log cabin in the woods. You build your home, but as soon as you do, a wolf from another woods spots you and your house.
The wolf, and the rest of its pack that have traveled from far away like yourself, gang up on you and savagly attack you. You manage to cage the wolves.
Question: Would you release the wolves?
Remember, if you release the wolves, they will attack you, no matter what. Even though it is ideal for you and the wolves to peacefully coexist, it's not practical, since the wolves will attack you no matter what if you release them.

[LardLord]

Because comparing Muslims to wolves totally isn't racist.

[Tancrisism]

Here's a better analogy.

You live in a big city. The owners of the city spotted a nice grassland and decided to buy it up from the previous owners. The inhabitants of the grassland are at first happy with this idea because your city promises them their own independent land after your city buys it up.

After a difficult time in a buy/sell struggle, your city finally prevails and gets ownership of the land. Unfortunately for your city, another city also wants ownership and claims several parts, so the grassland people are not able to be granted their land because both cities fear the other becoming too rich. Meanwhile, a family from the cities are invited and encouraged to start settling there because a long-lost family member once lived there.

Well, after those two cities have a long debacle with several other cities, they finally decide that the grassland peoples should be divided up, and they invite the beaten family to settle further, and call a part of the grassland the family's city.

The people who had lived in the grassland were denied their unity, their independence, and now seem to have their land and peoples squandered by the cities. They try to push the growing family out of their grassland, but to no avail.

Over time, the family becomes more and more settled, and they become more and more inhabited in the grassland. Now the grassland is just as much their home as the peoples who were there prior to their resettlement, but both sides are worried for their safety.

[killxp]

Sorry, please no more analogies. They are all too long. I don't believe a two-state solution will work either but please just state your reasons why in plain English. It is too late and my head hurts too much. Thank you so much. Late.

[morefngdbs]

At 6/25/09 01:24 AM, killxp wrote: Sorry, please no more analogies. They are all too long.

;;;
Here is a short analogy.
2 immature children fighting over the sand box !

Solution, pave over the playground, use it to store biological hazards & nuclear waste.

[simonshragna]

@Victory Racism isn't just against minorities, it is against all minorities existing in a certain area, in this case it's about the muslims in the world.
And BTW minorities means also people who don't have much money or something.

[Drakim]

At 6/25/09 04:31 PM, simonshragna wrote: @Victory Racism isn't just against minorities, it is against all minorities existing in a certain area, in this case it's about the muslims in the world.
And BTW minorities means also people who don't have much money or something.

Does say, murders qualify under this? Am I a racist for hating murders?

[dySWN]

At 6/25/09 04:31 PM, simonshragna wrote: @Victory Racism isn't just against minorities, it is against all minorities existing in a certain area, in this case it's about the muslims in the world.
And BTW minorities means also people who don't have much money or something.

You mean, except for the fact that the concept even has race in the name, and that we already have other, better words to describe discrimination based on nation or creed?

[killxp]

At 6/25/09 04:31 PM, simonshragna wrote: @Victory Racism isn't just against minorities, it is against all minorities existing in a certain area, in this case it's about the muslims in the world.
And BTW minorities means also people who don't have much money or something.

I think he was referring to how the guy said racist when Islam is not actually a race but religion. Also, you do not just have to be discriminating against the minority race to be racist, any discrimination based on any race, whether they are the geographic majority or minority, is racism. Check out the links. I hope they don't go against my point. Late.