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At 6/22/09 09:19 PM, TheRat wrote:
Sam Hazo, who has commissions throughout the concert band world, follows those rules.

Well I guess that means he has tons of people under him just WAITING for that next big idea.

Thing is, when you get good enough you can crap out good music. What ultimately determines whether it's passable or not is what the artist thinks of it. I'm sure Hazo has made some pieces he's not been happy with, regardless he's put them out and they've probably done really well. That "rule" he follows is probably only true for half of his songs, otherwise he's lying.

Sorry, that last bit might have been a little extreme. Regardless, at the moment I'm curious what you think about some of it.

When you're that into music, melodies are always jamming around in your head. I have a friend whose been at Berklee studying music for a bit but for as long as I've known him he's always carried some sort of melodic toy with him and he's always been running up and down scales. It's all he does. Some people twiddle their thumbs to pass time, jack makes chord progressions then fiddles with s few scales for a bit before shredding them all together then devolving back to just fiddling. Who knows. Maybe that's how symphonies are made...

Well, i think the main point is, no one is ever perfect, and no one can make perfect sounding songs all the time. Sure, they may be good and popular, but they arent perfect. Everyone screws up a lot, it would be unatural if we didnt. SoD might just be going through some block in writing or something...

At 6/22/09 11:06 PM, Kaizerwolf wrote: Well, i think the main point is, no one is ever perfect, and no one can make perfect sounding songs all the time. Sure, they may be good and popular, but they arent perfect. Everyone screws up a lot, it would be unatural if we didnt. SoD might just be going through some block in writing or something...

Yeah what this guy said.
Just be happy you can even write music. I'm still trying to get progress for something that I've been working on for a month now.

insta solution. completely forget about music entirely. then sit down and try to make a song. if you at all start thinking about making music, get up until you forget about it again.

try to sit down and make a song without any conscious thought, preferably in a cold room. no thought whatsoever

At 6/22/09 05:01 PM, statueofdiveo wrote: ehh... Ive just run out of inspiration

You'll get it back soon. Trust me.

At 6/22/09 03:22 PM, statueofdiveo wrote: Ever since april, since we are lost (my best song) came out, I have been trying to make something even better. But, i just can't improve. I don't know what's wrong, but I can't make great songs anymore. every time i make a song I try to beat we are lost but to no avail. What am i doing wrong?

That's your problem. Don't hold your past songs as standards, it will only hinder your creativity. Just go with it, get something out roughly and then fine tune the details afterwards (I wish I could follow my own advice, I keep doing the exact opposite...)

Just stay chill, focus on making your own samples and loops I guess (working out the set tone, reverb, eq each instrument in the loop separately :aka pay closer attention to details).
And take a look at some other house peeps (gene minitel rose, junkie xl?)
Cheers

Bjra and greggarron (WHATEVER)

You are both right. Music is a zombielike, spiritual thing to make.

Like, the best songs are made after zen or sex but I am 13 so I am converting to buddism ftw

Really, I've just been feeling tired lately, so energetic songs sound false because that is not what I am feeling. If I were excited and amazed again, I would be making better stuff.

Going to music studio down the street for a week and learning protools in the summer on july first, so that may change my music life.

I just have to let go of everything when I produce.

Let go of time, so

"I am lost in an unknown place so far away from the human race".

Listeners of we are lost would know.

I just came out of an enormous slump, and it was basically because I wasn't trying hard enough. Start a song, and if it doesn't sound great at first keep in mind you can make it sound better if you spend enough time on it.

At 6/23/09 06:41 AM, statueofdiveo wrote: I am 13 so I am converting to buddism ftw

Wait, Buddhists believe in winning? I thought that was Catholicism?

Low blow. If your catholic and it makes you feel any better, I'm atheist. When I die, I go to hell :P

At 6/22/09 10:14 PM, Quarl wrote: Sorry, that last bit might have been a little extreme. Regardless, at the moment I'm curious what you think about some of it.

When you're that into music, melodies are always jamming around in your head. I have a friend whose been at Berklee studying music for a bit but for as long as I've known him he's always carried some sort of melodic toy with him and he's always been running up and down scales. It's all he does. Some people twiddle their thumbs to pass time, jack makes chord progressions then fiddles with s few scales for a bit before shredding them all together then devolving back to just fiddling. Who knows. Maybe that's how symphonies are made...

I'm guilty of humming up stuff all the time. The problem seems to be when you have absolutely no idea what to do, and you just sit down. But also, in the professional world, this is unlikely to occur. I don't sit down and write until I have something in my head, though i do write often. I do have times where I have a slump of a good week or so, and I don't try to force anything out. If I'm sitting in the middle of class, I'll just think everything up, write a description about it to write when I get home. I end up remembering about 95% of the parts and can usual build on my initial idea.