Forum Topic: Why the hate?

(751 views • 64 replies)

This topic is 3 pages long. [ 1 | 2 | 3 ]

<< < > >>
None

HuntersMoon

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/18/09 10:05 PM

HuntersMoon NEUTRAL LEVEL 08

Sign-Up: 10/22/07

Posts: 548

At 6/18/09 09:57 PM, ngman7 wrote: It's the principle. If it was real porn those people would get in trouble.

but thats just it, its not real so no one is getting hurt.

sure i think it is a bit weird but no real person is actually getting raped or whatever in those so who cares!

How do I Forum Post?


None

ngman7

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/18/09 10:12 PM

ngman7 NEUTRAL LEVEL 02

Sign-Up: 02/16/08

Posts: 3,989

At 6/18/09 10:05 PM, HuntersMoon wrote:
At 6/18/09 09:57 PM, ngman7 wrote: It's the principle. If it was real porn those people would get in trouble.
but thats just it, its not real so no one is getting hurt.

sure i think it is a bit weird but no real person is actually getting raped or whatever in those so who cares!

It's still evil and corrupt.


None

HuntersMoon

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/18/09 10:15 PM

HuntersMoon NEUTRAL LEVEL 08

Sign-Up: 10/22/07

Posts: 548

At 6/18/09 10:12 PM, ngman7 wrote: It's still evil and corrupt.

thats like saying,"No one should ever be killed in a movie because killing is bad!" It doesn't matter if someone is killed in a movie because they don't actually exist

How do I Forum Post?


None

ngman7

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/18/09 10:26 PM

ngman7 NEUTRAL LEVEL 02

Sign-Up: 02/16/08

Posts: 3,989

At 6/18/09 10:15 PM, HuntersMoon wrote:
At 6/18/09 10:12 PM, ngman7 wrote: It's still evil and corrupt.
thats like saying,"No one should ever be killed in a movie because killing is bad!" It doesn't matter if someone is killed in a movie because they don't actually exist

What's the function of porn?


None

HuntersMoon

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/18/09 10:31 PM

HuntersMoon NEUTRAL LEVEL 08

Sign-Up: 10/22/07

Posts: 548

At 6/18/09 10:26 PM, ngman7 wrote:
At 6/18/09 10:15 PM, HuntersMoon wrote:
At 6/18/09 10:12 PM, ngman7 wrote: It's still evil and corrupt.
thats like saying,"No one should ever be killed in a movie because killing is bad!" It doesn't matter if someone is killed in a movie because they don't actually exist
What's the function of porn?

it feels good when you jack off to it. also, what justifies jacking off as evil and immoral? try and give me one reason other than "the bible says so!"

How do I Forum Post?


None

Armerad

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/18/09 10:33 PM

Armerad DARK LEVEL 25

Sign-Up: 09/21/07

Posts: 2,450

As was said, most of the voters only made accounts for the Meet N Fuck, not the forums.

(MSN/Gmail/AIM- armerad@gmail.com )( Facebook)(Twitter)

BBS Signature

Sleeping

Davidzx

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/18/09 10:37 PM

Davidzx LIGHT LEVEL 26

Sign-Up: 01/15/07

Posts: 4,254

Because people online are downright hateful alot of times, hate is the empty reason on which people troll for fun, and not explain anything.

Hate is also a strong word for instance.


None

ngman7

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/18/09 11:59 PM

ngman7 NEUTRAL LEVEL 02

Sign-Up: 02/16/08

Posts: 3,989

At 6/18/09 10:31 PM, HuntersMoon wrote:

it feels good when you jack off to it. also, what justifies jacking off as evil and immoral? try and give me one reason other than "the bible says so!"

You're tearing your body up.

Porn is evil and immoral.


Angry

Sawke

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/19/09 12:40 AM

Sawke EVIL LEVEL 34

Sign-Up: 02/21/05

Posts: 11,646

All of us lead secret double lives. Part of it spent screaming at the evil hentai the other half fapping to sailormoon and Goku getting it on.

mmmm Vegeta get down with Piccolo...i ..i MEAN DISGUSTING FILTH!...oh yes...

None

ngman7

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/19/09 12:41 AM

ngman7 NEUTRAL LEVEL 02

Sign-Up: 02/16/08

Posts: 3,989

Women are disgusting.


None

Lagatag

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/19/09 12:44 AM

Lagatag LIGHT LEVEL 30

Sign-Up: 03/08/05

Posts: 13,055

Probably like 90% of NG doesn't know/care about the forums


Elated

WarteryMind

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/19/09 01:13 AM

WarteryMind DARK LEVEL 08

Sign-Up: 04/08/08

Posts: 598

Hate is fun.
that is all.

"Humans,who are unique in their ability to learn from others, are also unique in their disinclination to do so"
GT: WateryMindNG. Hit me up for Team Fortress 2 action

BBS Signature

None

ngman7

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/19/09 01:18 AM

ngman7 NEUTRAL LEVEL 02

Sign-Up: 02/16/08

Posts: 3,989

At 6/19/09 01:13 AM, WarteryMind wrote: Hate is fun.
that is all.

People have issues.


None

Dante-Son-Of-Sparda

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/19/09 01:30 AM

Dante-Son-Of-Sparda EVIL LEVEL 28

Sign-Up: 07/15/06

Posts: 5,201

why dont you go troll somewhere else NGman7?


None

Alpharius120

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/19/09 01:30 AM

Alpharius120 FAB LEVEL 14

Sign-Up: 07/08/07

Posts: 2,975

At 6/18/09 11:59 PM, ngman7 wrote:
At 6/18/09 10:31 PM, HuntersMoon wrote:

it feels good when you jack off to it. also, what justifies jacking off as evil and immoral? try and give me one reason other than "the bible says so!"
You're tearing your body up.

Porn is evil and immoral.

Actually, masturbation helps your body more than it hurts it.

BBS Signature

None

ngman7

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/19/09 01:46 AM

ngman7 NEUTRAL LEVEL 02

Sign-Up: 02/16/08

Posts: 3,989

At 6/19/09 01:30 AM, Alpharius120 wrote:
At 6/18/09 11:59 PM, ngman7 wrote:
At 6/18/09 10:31 PM, HuntersMoon wrote:

it feels good when you jack off to it. also, what justifies jacking off as evil and immoral? try and give me one reason other than "the bible says so!"
You're tearing your body up.

Porn is evil and immoral.
Actually, masturbation helps your body more than it hurts it.

It leaves a disgusting mess in your hands. How do you know you won't contract something by doing it?

God says to exercise self-control.


None

Dante-Son-Of-Sparda

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/19/09 02:07 AM

Dante-Son-Of-Sparda EVIL LEVEL 28

Sign-Up: 07/15/06

Posts: 5,201

At 6/19/09 01:46 AM, ngman7 wrote:
At 6/19/09 01:30 AM, Alpharius120 wrote:
At 6/18/09 11:59 PM, ngman7 wrote:
At 6/18/09 10:31 PM, HuntersMoon wrote:

it feels good when you jack off to it. also, what justifies jacking off as evil and immoral? try and give me one reason other than "the bible says so!"
You're tearing your body up.

Porn is evil and immoral.
Actually, masturbation helps your body more than it hurts it.
It leaves a disgusting mess in your hands. How do you know you won't contract something by doing it?

God says to exercise self-control.

Give me a bible, then give me scienitific proof that its actually bad for you when you are just dispensing dead sperm, and that its actually good for you

also I will leave this here

Why the hate?


None

ngman7

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/19/09 03:06 AM

ngman7 NEUTRAL LEVEL 02

Sign-Up: 02/16/08

Posts: 3,989

At 6/19/09 02:07 AM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote:
At 6/19/09 01:46 AM, ngman7 wrote:

God says to exercise self-control.
Give me a bible, then give me scienitific proof that its actually bad for you when you are just dispensing dead sperm, and that its actually good for you

First, give me proof that your dispensing dead sperm.


None

crapatflash

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/19/09 03:22 AM

crapatflash LIGHT LEVEL 12

Sign-Up: 12/15/06

Posts: 733

At 6/18/09 06:31 PM, zomglolz wrote: because most of the people that vote do not come to the forums.

thank god.


None

tsdeath1

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/19/09 03:36 AM

tsdeath1 EVIL LEVEL 05

Sign-Up: 04/13/08

Posts: 835

At 6/18/09 07:41 PM, maddskill wrote:
At 6/18/09 07:39 PM, Republican1235 wrote:
At 6/18/09 07:37 PM, TheTrooper5 wrote:
Because it's fantasy porn.
All porn is bad.
Oh fuck off, go preach your religious arrogance elsewhere.
fuck off, go preach your religous persecution elsewhere.
Fuck off, go spew your hate for babies elsewhere.

Fuck me, Please

BBS Signature

None

Xavierthewarlord

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/19/09 03:41 AM

Xavierthewarlord NEUTRAL LEVEL 07

Sign-Up: 07/13/06

Posts: 663

At 6/18/09 06:31 PM, xKore wrote: Because they are popular... outside the forums.

YOU LIE.

To the OP: Newgrounds has stuff besides Forums? This is a new and scary concept to me.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN EVERY NEWGROUNDS VISITOR DOSENT COME TO THE FORUMS?

-Dear. God.- Everything I know, shattered.

Grumpy Old Man of the Newgrounds forums.

BBS Signature

None

igott

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/19/09 03:45 AM

igott NEUTRAL LEVEL 16

Sign-Up: 12/30/07

Posts: 5,555

At 6/19/09 03:41 AM, Xavierthewarlord wrote:
At 6/18/09 06:31 PM, xKore wrote: Because they are popular... outside the forums.
YOU LIE.

To the OP: Newgrounds has stuff besides Forums? This is a new and scary concept to me.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN EVERY NEWGROUNDS VISITOR DOSENT COME TO THE FORUMS?

-Dear. God.- Everything I know, shattered.

Only the cool kids come on the forums.

Click on the albums to see an extended version of the signature.

BBS Signature

None

ngman7

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/19/09 04:09 AM

ngman7 NEUTRAL LEVEL 02

Sign-Up: 02/16/08

Posts: 3,989

At 6/19/09 02:07 AM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote:

Give me a bible, then give me scienitific proof that its actually bad for you when you are just dispensing dead sperm, and that its actually good for you

also I will leave this here

Prove to me where it says you're dispensing bad sperm.

Masturbation:

Genesis 49:4 (King James Version)

4Unstable as water, thou shalt not excel; because thou wentest up to thy father's bed; then defiledst thou it: he went up to my couch.

1 Thessalonians 4:3-5 (New International Version)

3It is God's will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; 4that each of you should learn to control his own body[a] in a way that is holy and honorable, 5not in passionate lust like the heathen, who do not know God;


None

ngman7

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/19/09 04:12 AM

ngman7 NEUTRAL LEVEL 02

Sign-Up: 02/16/08

Posts: 3,989

At 6/19/09 02:07 AM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote:
At 6/19/09 01:46 AM, ngman7 wrote:
At 6/19/09 01:30 AM, Alpharius120 wrote:

God says to exercise self-control.
Give me a bible, then give me scienitific proof that its actually bad for you

Why masturbation is bad:

Non-spiritual points about masturbation

1. Masturbation is addictive! I encourage anyone who doubts masturbation is addictive to see how many weeks or months they can go without masturbating. We know now that sexual addictions are in fact self-induced drug addictions. The chemicals our bodies release during sexual arousal create the same effect on the brain as drugs. Repeated masturbation reinforces a brain chemistry loop of addiction. (ref: Exposing Porn: Science, Religion, and the New Addiction, Paul Strand. www.cbn.com, April 2004) As with drug addiction, masturbation requires an increasing amount of stimulus to achieve consistent levels of pleasure. This can lead to both an increased frequency of the habit and a never-ending search for new material to enhance the experience.

2. Masturbation conditions our bodies to respond to self-stimulation, which is self-centered. This damages our ability to relate to another person sexually. Sex is a relational experience, where we give attention to another person's needs at least as much as to our own. If we've been serving our own desires habitually, we may find it difficult to give our partner the attention he or she desires. Additionally, the hormones released in the brain during sexual arousal cause a bonding to whatever we are looking at and/or thinking about at the time. This can cause us to be more sexually responsive to masturbation (and its associated fantasies) than to real sex.

3. Masturbation causes sexual imbalance: Masturbation stirs up our sexual emotions and trains our bodies to seek sexual release more frequently than normal. Common sense tells us that there should be a balance between sex and the other activities in our lives. Masturbation disrupts that balance by training our bodies and minds to expect gratification more frequently than normal. Like a feedback loop in an amplifier, the imbalance between reality and fantasy can likely drive a person further into the addiction.

The sexual imbalance can also affect other areas of our lives by diverting energy, time and resources into sexual activity. For example, a man stays up late each night to surf for porn to masturbate to. His job performance suffers because he can't stay awake during the day, his family life sours because he's grouchy, his wife is alienated from him by his lack of affection and interest in her, and his debt increases because of the credit card charges from the porn sites he's visiting to feed his habit.

The people most likely to suffer from the imbalance are people who don't have a regular provision for sexual intimacy (e.g. teens, singles, divorced persons, widowed persons, persons in sexually dysfunctional marriages). Ironically, these are the same people that may be strongly tempted to indulge in porn and masturbation. If they whet their appetite by indulging, chances are that they could easily get hooked in the addictive cycle that the imbalance creates.

Spiritual points about masturbation

For Christians, there are some important issues we need to address concerning masturbation. The foundational question is, "Are you committed to honoring God with your life?" If you are, then I urge you to carefully consider the points presented in this section.

Let's first examine the typical sins that accompany masturbation: lust and sexual idolatry. These may not be involved in every case, but they usually are.

Lust

Definitions from Webster's 9th New Collegiate Dictionary:

* (n) Intense or unbridled sexual desire, lasciviousness...an intense longing: craving
* (v) to have an intense desire or need, crave

Obvious examples of lust during masturbation include looking at pornography and fantasizing about sex. As we can see from the definitions, lust can simply be an intense longing or craving. It may not even be a conscious thought, but simply a gut feeling of the flesh.

Sexual Idolatry

Definition of idolatry from Webster's 9th New Collegiate Dictionary:

* (n) Immoderate attachment or devotion to something

Definitions of idol from Webster's 9th New Collegiate Dictionary:

* A likeness of something
* A form or appearance; visible but without substance
* An object of extreme devotion
* A representation or symbol of an object of worship
* A false conception; fallacy

When we look at porn or form sexual images by memory or imagination during masturbation, we are basically feeding an immoderate attachment or devotion to the idol of sex. Such attachment and devotion is greatly reinforced by the pleasurable brain chemicals released during sexual arousal and orgasm.

Idolatry is sin (Exodus 20:3-5) and it can bring unpleasant consequences, such as demonic oppression and generational curses. God's primary command to us is that we love him with all our heart, soul and mind (Matthew 22:36-38). I suggest that it is impossible to love God with all our heart, soul and mind when we are idolizing sex images in our eyes and thoughts!

Having discussed lust and sexual idolatry, we can now explore the spiritual impact of masturbation.

1. Masturbation causes you to be "mastered" by sin: The Bible says that there are only two things that we can be a slave to: sin or righteousness. There are no other masters. Paul wrote:

Do you not know that if you yield yourselves to any one as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? Romans 6:16 NKJV

Which master does masturbation bring us under? In almost every case, it is used to complement sins of lust or sexual idolatry and will therefore enslave us to sin.

God does not want us to be mastered by sin. For example, he told Cain, "If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door. And its desire is for you, but you should rule over it" (Genesis 4:7 NKJV). Cain failed and sin ruled him for the rest of his life. After killing his brother, he lost his job, his peace, his home, and his blessing and spent the rest of his days as a "restless wanderer" (Genesis 4:12).

Likewise, we have the same opportunity to choose our master. If we choose sin as our master, our life will bear the fruit that sin brings - i.e. destruction, sorrow, dissatisfaction, death, etc.. If we choose righteousness as our master, we will reap life! Paul wrote:

20When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the control of righteousness. 21What benefit did you reap at that time from the things you are now ashamed of? Those things result in death! 22But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life. 23For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." Romans 6:20-23 NIV

2. Masturbation uses your body as an instrument for sin: Your body is to be presented and used as an instrument for righteousness, not sin. Paul wrote:

Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in its lusts. And do not present your members as instruments of unrighteousness to sin, but present yourselves to God as being alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God Romans 6:12-13 NKJV

God can best use us when we keep our "vessels" (body, soul & spirit) free of sin. Paul wrote:

In a large house there are articles not only of gold and silver, but also of wood and clay; some are for noble purposes and some for ignoble. If a man cleanses himself from the latter, he will be an instrument for noble purposes, made holy, useful to the Master and prepared to do any good work. Flee the evil desires of youth, and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, along with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart. 2 Timothy 2:20-22


None

EggSnake

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/19/09 04:14 AM

EggSnake NEUTRAL LEVEL 06

Sign-Up: 05/03/09

Posts: 335

Because they get stuck on the ones that involve math.

A nest is a place where all of your dreams come true.

BBS Signature

None

Crayzorder

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/19/09 04:17 AM

Crayzorder DARK LEVEL 06

Sign-Up: 06/14/09

Posts: 424

At 6/18/09 09:57 PM, ngman7 wrote:
At 6/18/09 09:55 PM, Valjylmyr wrote:
At 6/18/09 09:52 PM, ngman7 wrote: The FLCL flash game is what I'm talking about.

Why would you show adults having sex with minors? You don't see what's wrong with that?
Nothing's wrong with it, as long as it's a cartoon. It isn't real, it never happened.
It's the principle. If it was real porn those people would get in trouble.

A question still stands; who gives a fuck?
It's not real. No one is in trouble. No one would get in trouble anyway, most likely.


None

EggSnake

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/19/09 04:20 AM

EggSnake NEUTRAL LEVEL 06

Sign-Up: 05/03/09

Posts: 335

Excuse me Everyone

My religion practices the Damnation of the christian belief that a god has babies with people and killing these children is a good thing.

No more New testament posts or I will have the lawyers on you. Thank you.

A nest is a place where all of your dreams come true.

BBS Signature

None

ngman7

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/19/09 04:21 AM

ngman7 NEUTRAL LEVEL 02

Sign-Up: 02/16/08

Posts: 3,989

At 6/19/09 04:17 AM, Crayzorder wrote:
At 6/18/09 09:57 PM, ngman7 wrote:

It's the principle. If it was real porn those people would get in trouble.
A question still stands; who gives a fuck?
It's not real. No one is in trouble. No one would get in trouble anyway, most likely.

Isn't lolicon the reason WHY we have sexual predators in the first place?


None

EggSnake

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/19/09 04:24 AM

EggSnake NEUTRAL LEVEL 06

Sign-Up: 05/03/09

Posts: 335

In my religion posting New Testament Threads is tantamount to eating pigs or pictures of Muhammed.

A nest is a place where all of your dreams come true.

BBS Signature

None

Crayzorder

Reply To Post Reply & Quote

Posted at: 6/19/09 04:24 AM

Crayzorder DARK LEVEL 06

Sign-Up: 06/14/09

Posts: 424

Masturbating is very good for your health

"A 1997 study in the British Medical Journal based upon 918 men age 45-59 found that after a ten year follow-up, men who had fewer orgasms were twice as likely to die of any cause as those having two or more orgasms a week."

Put another way - having at least two orgasms a week halves your chance of dying between the ages of 45 and 59.

You can see how this makes sense - when you masturbate your heart beats faster, and your breathing speeds up. Since the heart and lungs are two of the most important organs in the body, any safe activity that exercises them is good for your general health.

Other studies have found that frequent masturbation reduces the risk of prostate cancer - a doctor who studied the evidence recommended that teenagers masturbate at least six times a week. It is thought that regular ejaculation clears the prostate gland of chemicals that can cause cancer.

Masturbating is also a wonderful way to get to know your body sexually; this is a great help when you have more to do with girls, as you already understand your own responses.

---------------------

Remember the days when young boys were warned by their mothers about the evils of masturbation, telling them it could cause blindness or baldness? It turns out mother was wrong.

Now Australian researchers are saying that masturbation can actually be good for men. The risk of prostate cancer can be reduced with frequent masturbation, according to an Australian study of 2,250 men between the ages of 20 and 50. The researchers studied 1,000 men who had contracted prostate cancer, and 1,250 men who had not. They found that the men who masturbated the most had the lowest incidences of prostate cancer and, in fact, those who masturbated five times or more a week were a third less likely to develop prostate cancer.

Other studies have pointed out that an overactive sexual life can lead to a higher risk of contracting a sexually transmitted disease, which in turn could raise the risk of developing cancer. Masturbation, the researchers say, has no such negative aspect and actually help get rid of the carcinogens better than actual intercourse. As Graham Giles, of the Cancer Council Victoria, in Melbourne, Australia said, "The more you flush the ducts out, the less there is to hang around and damage the cells that line them."

Their theory is based on an assumption that has been observed in animal studies, where carcinogens have been observed to be stored in the ejaculation fluid in the prostate. Ejaculation fluid contains, among other things, potassium and citric acid that in high quantities create a cancerous environment. Following this theory, the Australian researchers believe that frequent ejaculation will in effect "wash" those carcinogens out of the gland, and thereby decrease the likelihood of men contracting prostate cancer. Without regular ejaculation the carcinogens, they say, accumulate in a man's prostate, which they feel is not healthy.

Not too forget the obvious; it clears you out which helps inside the area.
As for god, im an atheist, so don't try pulling that on me :)


All times are Eastern Standard Time (GMT -5) | Current Time: 09:05 AM

<< Back

This topic is 3 pages long. [ 1 | 2 | 3 ]

<< < > >>
You need a Grounds Gold Account to post on the NG BBS! If you don't have one, click here to sign up now! It's fast, free, and easy — and opens up tons of great NG features!