Is Magix Music Maker 15 Good?

[The-Sony-Guy]

I have so many good songs in my head that I want to compose, but I just don't have the adequate tools. I have Magix Music Maker 15, but I need to upgrade to the Premium Edition for more options. I need instruments like pads, synths, bells, choir, and orchestra instruments. I don't know if Magix can provide me with these (i never saw a saxophone as an option on the program for example). Does anyone here have any advice for me about this? Should I use a better program? Which programs do people on NG use for audio?

[The-Sony-Guy]

Hey, i could really use some advice on this.

[loansindi]

to answer your question, no.

At least, that's what i've surmised to be the opinion of this forum as a whole.

If you really want to make music for reals, try the demo of FL studio from image line.

It's a more or less completely featured DAW.

You'll also want to look into samples and VSTs to get a more 'real' sound out of it. Look around the forum and you'll find all kinds of stuff.

[alcatraz5]

Yeah, and Magix is really just a sequencer. At least thats all its good for.

[The-Sony-Guy]

What's VST? I think it means "Virtual Sound Track". And what is DAW?

[loansindi]

At 6/16/09 09:48 AM, The-Sony-Guy wrote: What's VST? I think it means "Virtual Sound Track". And what is DAW?

VST stands for 'virtual studio technology'

It was developed by steinberg to allow hardware-like software. VSTs and VSTi(instruments) allow you to have a huge range of effects and instruments.

DAW stands for digital audio workstation. pretty straightforward.

If you're -really- serious about making music, you're going to need to start reading.

[Pippatchu]

Magix music maker is nothing more then a sequencer.
download the demo of fl studio.
or download anvil studio. anvil studio is completely free and is an midi editor suitable for everyone.
4 ways to compose: sheet music, piano roll, tableture (guitar interface) and playing with midi piano/ typing keyboard. 128 great instruments included.
anvil studio site
image line/FL site
success!

[Chronamut]

it is illegal to make any songs using magix and then upload them onto this site.

end of discussion.

[loansindi]

At 6/16/09 10:17 AM, Chronamut wrote: it is illegal to make any songs using magix and then upload them onto this site.

end of discussion.

Not really. For it to be the end of discussion, he needs to have expressed an intent to upload the songs he makes to this site.

Also, a more detailed explanation of WHY that is true would be helpful.

To the OP, what chron is referring to is the EULA for magix software, that lays claim to anything you create. Meaning it's impossible to create content that you own with a magix product.

The implication is, since you do not have the rights to the content you create, you cannot release it under the CC license that is understood when you upload to the portal.

Which is yet another reason to get a real DAW like FL.

[Chronamut]

he stated that he wants to compose music - which is impossible in magix since you arent composing anything - you are making duplo music in essence.

He also asked what people on newgrounds audio use to make music - thus expressing a more than likely interest in eventually submitting said music to newgrounds - thus a logical assumption, while still not failproof, can be made.

[loansindi]

At 6/16/09 10:33 AM, Chronamut wrote: he stated that he wants to compose music - which is impossible in magix since you arent composing anything - you are making duplo music in essence.

i looked for about twelve seconds at the company's site and that brief look suggested at least one of their products is capable of original content. couldn't tell you which one, and I wouldn't recommend their products anyway.

He also asked what people on newgrounds audio use to make music - thus expressing a more than likely interest in eventually submitting said music to newgrounds - thus a logical assumption, while still not failproof, can be made.

that is true.

to the OP: definitely look into some real software, or if you're daring buy a guitar.

[The-Sony-Guy]

I just got done looking at Reason's site and it's too damn expensive. Even after buying the $500 dollar program, you'll have to buy refills if you want more instruments (which is what I need). That could reach $1000. Even though its quality is just what I need, I just don't got that kind of money as of now. So let me check out FL and see how it is.

[loansindi]

At 6/16/09 10:36 AM, The-Sony-Guy wrote: I just got done looking at Reason's site and it's too damn expensive. Even after buying the $500 dollar program, you'll have to buy refills if you want more instruments (which is what I need). That could reach $1000. Even though its quality is just what I need, I just don't got that kind of money as of now. So let me check out FL and see how it is.

Honestly, I'm not a fan of reason. Because it doesn't support ANY third party plugins, you HAVE to buy stuff from them if you want new sounds.

[Buoy]

At 6/16/09 10:17 AM, Chronamut wrote: it is illegal to make any songs using magix and then upload them onto this site.

No it is not

At 6/16/09 10:33 AM, Chronamut wrote: he stated that he wants to compose music - which is impossible in magix since you arent composing anything - you are making duplo music in essence.

That's just a lie... sure Magix has put the emphasis on the loop library but it is very possible to record audio and midi with magix music maker (at least the current version of it, perhaps the earlier versions were pure drag and drop).

Also Magix is the company name, they make different (better) software as well.

[Mich]

At 6/16/09 10:36 AM, The-Sony-Guy wrote: I just got done looking at Reason's site and it's too damn expensive. Even after buying the $500 dollar program, you'll have to buy refills if you want more instruments (which is what I need). That could reach $1000. Even though its quality is just what I need, I just don't got that kind of money as of now. So let me check out FL and see how it is.

You do realize that you can also set the synth in reason by yourself right? But if you're aiming for orchestral things and such, that won't work out ofcourse, as that's based on samples...

But seriously, look into FL-Studio, it's not thàt expensive.

[The-Sony-Guy]

I didn't think that I'd get this many replies. Thanks everyone for the advice. The NG forum is really helpful.

[Khuskan]

Reason and other professional products are expensive because you are paying not just for the software, but for the legal rights to use anything that you use the software for to make money for yourself and yourself alone. It's a steep mark-up when compared to something like magix, which is developed more as a toy to play around with, and with which you do not get commercial usage rights.

Also reason is not compatible with plug ins because it pretty much IS a plug-in. It's best used when rewired onto another DAW like a massive VSTi. And you get a fuckload of samples with reason, can use any standard format samples you want and there are thousands of free refills and commercial ones both by propellerheads and other producers.

[Chronamut]

At 6/16/09 10:49 AM, SBB wrote:

At 6/16/09 10:17 AM, Chronamut wrote: it is illegal to make any songs using magix and then upload them onto this site.

No it is not

sorry - bad choice of words - using magix music maker to make songs and uploading them to newgrounds will get you banned. Or so they say.

At 6/16/09 10:33 AM, Chronamut wrote: he stated that he wants to compose music - which is impossible in magix since you arent composing anything - you are making duplo music in essence.

That's just a lie... sure Magix has put the emphasis on the loop library but it is very possible to record audio and midi with magix music maker (at least the current version of it, perhaps the earlier versions were pure drag and drop).

ya but why take the risk? If someone says they used magix and the song SOUNDS loopy - regardless of whether they did it from scratch or not if they are a first time user are you going to approve them?

Also Magix is the company name, they make different (better) software as well.

like what?

[loansindi]

At 6/16/09 11:40 AM, Chronamut wrote: like what?

a whole shitload of stuff

[Siccest559]

Ok I would say your best bet for making music is to get a Roland Fantom keyboard, I use the G6 and its so easy making songs on it and there's soo many different settings, it has all the things you listed, and many more, and you record your songs on the keyboard with its giant screen built in to it :) But the only thing is my keyboard is the cheapest one of the newest generation of Fantoms and its still $2,500 and the G7 and G8 go even higher in price, but there all really really good.

[loansindi]

At 6/16/09 09:07 PM, Siccest559 wrote: ridiculous advice

his 'best bet' for making music would be a relatively inexpensive software package.

a synth isn't the best audio workstation.

[sorohanro]

At 6/16/09 11:40 AM, Chronamut wrote:

At 6/16/09 10:49 AM, SBB wrote: Also Magix is the company name, they make different (better) software as well.

like what?

I recently was at a sound engineering/ recording masterclass for opera (contemporarry and classical).
The teacher was a German guy (Moritz Bergfeld, teacher HERE).
One of the things that he told is that Sequoia it's quite the standard tool in Germany for radio stations and classical music live recordings/ mixing/ mastering. He had it installed and I got the chance to compare it with Nuendo.
I must say that Sequoia it's quite a powerful tool, with some mixing options that lack in Nuendo.

Now to the subject:
If Magix can use VST and VSTi you should try downloading DSK Plugins and take a look HERE for some free VSTi.
Also you can take a look on Wikypedia about what means VST.