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A Boycott against left 4 dead 2? 2009-06-13 20:35:03 Reply

About a week ago, Left 4 dead 2 was announced, and now there are groups of people boycotting the game. Their reasons are that they should have made more free dlc, and that the ENTIRE GAME should be free. I'm sorry, but there is pretty much a whole new game that they are making, complete with new survivors, weapons, locations, and a new AI system, along with new infected. Doesn't that deserve the price for a new game? I mean, sure there should be more free dlc, but to make left 4 dead 2, which is a whole new game, free is ridiculous.


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Response to A Boycott against left 4 dead 2? 2009-06-13 20:57:33 Reply

Meh, it's all just because the original had only four campaigns.

I mean, come on. Sure you could take a slightly alternate route, items are placed differently, and it has that survival mode, but it still only has 4 campaigns.


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Response to A Boycott against left 4 dead 2? 2009-06-13 20:58:34 Reply

At 6/13/09 08:57 PM, Silverchaos wrote: Meh, it's all just because the original had only four campaigns.

I mean, come on. Sure you could take a slightly alternate route, items are placed differently, and it has that survival mode, but it still only has 4 campaigns.

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Response to A Boycott against left 4 dead 2? 2009-06-13 21:00:30 Reply

At 6/13/09 08:35 PM, dudewithashotgun29 wrote: About a week ago, Left 4 dead 2 was announced, and now there are groups of people boycotting the game.

Boycotting? This is getting out of hand...

I'm sorry, but there is pretty much a whole new game that they are making, complete with new survivors, weapons, locations, and a new AI system, along with new infected. Doesn't that deserve the price for a new game?

You're right about that, L4D2 needs to be priced normally. Instead of people whining about games and warning others not to buy a certain game, they need to be quiet to avoid shooing people away from buying, which will help our suck-ass economy.

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Response to A Boycott against left 4 dead 2? 2009-06-13 21:01:53 Reply

A boycott isn't gonna mean bull diddly squat here: for every one buthurt fag who boycotts the game, there will be at least two who'll buy the game.

This is largely a case of unwarranted self-importance.


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Response to A Boycott against left 4 dead 2? 2009-06-13 21:24:23 Reply

people are boycotting because they feel they have been ripped off, and it's right for them to boycott. valve promised plenty of updates, they got one game mode and that was it. is valve promises it's community something they should have kept themselves to that promise instead of jumping the shark.

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Response to A Boycott against left 4 dead 2? 2009-06-13 22:15:47 Reply

I guarantee this is what is going to happen with Left 4 Dead 2.

A few thousand boycotters will not buy the game, big whoop to Valve.

Next they will realize how much fun it is and improved from the first it is and have a blast playing it like the last one.

They will then buy it after it has already come out, and this boycott is forgotton months later.


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Response to A Boycott against left 4 dead 2? 2009-06-13 22:33:14 Reply

It's more of an expansion pack then a whole new game, It shouldn't be free, but maybe half the price of the first one?


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Response to A Boycott against left 4 dead 2? 2009-06-14 04:37:24 Reply

I think that fans of Left 4 Dead feel cheated when games like Team Fortress 2 and Half Life 2 go on for years after release and still get updated occasionally. Team Fortress is still nowhere near being scrapped, and its already 3 years old. Left 4 Dead, well, it still hasn't reached one year.

I think its simply selfish honestly; Left 4 Dead still has much room for expansion, adding all the content in L4D2 together would merge perfectly if they added those separate campaigns with the separate characters.

Another $50 in this economy is not going to get a good response from the consumers.

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Response to A Boycott against left 4 dead 2? 2009-06-14 05:03:32 Reply

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Response to A Boycott against left 4 dead 2? 2009-06-14 05:08:14 Reply

one of the first stages of acceptance is denial, it's likely a quarter or even half of the boycotter's will buy the game still. and have you ever seen an online boycott work ever? I haven't.


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Response to A Boycott against left 4 dead 2? 2009-06-14 06:21:04 Reply

I'm sure I'll buy it but I'll be pissed off at the same time. Valve really should have included more content in the original before it hit the shelves and made more DLC. When I heard news of the sequel my first thought was "Well there goes anymore DLC".
In my opinion Valve shouldn't move on to a sequel so quickly; they should make more content first because even with the recent extras L4D is still woefully lacking for a full price game.

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Response to A Boycott against left 4 dead 2? 2009-06-14 07:15:56 Reply

If they released everything in L4D 2 in updates like they do with TF2, everyone would be happy.

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Response to A Boycott against left 4 dead 2? 2009-06-14 08:55:18 Reply

My only complaint about Left 4 Dead 2 is how soon it's being released after the first one. I never expected Valve to announce L4D2 until at least 3 years after the release of the original game. Despite that, I'll probably get this game around the time it comes out and I have no intentions to boycott it, even though I still think there needs to be more content added to the original game. I do understand why people aren't happy to hear the release of a sequel so soon, but I can see a good number of these naysayers getting the game anyway.


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Response to A Boycott against left 4 dead 2? 2009-06-14 09:43:20 Reply

I am fully going to support L4D2 when it comes.

I, unlike those who actually joined the boycott, trust Valve to make a game which is both entertaining and replayable, I trust them because of their past history of good customer service and gameplay mechanics.

I think a lot of you have gotten spoiled, you're all so used to the free DLC and great deals like the Orange Box that you forgot that Valve is still a company that needs to make money.

I say we support L4D2, pay the $50 for it, enjoy the great new features that will be implemented in it, and trust Valve to do what it does best.

I honestly do not believe that this is a marketing ploy, I think that once the game comes out it will have much more content than anticipated and we will all be pleasantly surprised.

Have a little faith in the company that has given us so much yet asked for so little.


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Response to A Boycott against left 4 dead 2? 2009-06-14 10:00:28 Reply

Valve is pumping up money for hl2 ep 3.


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Response to A Boycott against left 4 dead 2? 2009-06-14 10:06:11 Reply

ValVe said they will continue to make free DLC for the first game after L4D2 is released

though why call it Left 4 Dead 2?
i would have called it Left 2 Die


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Response to A Boycott against left 4 dead 2? 2009-06-14 10:27:38 Reply

Hey all you idiots complaining about the "BOO HOO ITS NOT DLC" thing. If they were to release it as DLC the new stuff from the game mechanics would conflict with the Original. This would not only cause the game to crash, it could brick on consoles, and possible make your computer reboot. That's not good on overclock.


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Response to A Boycott against left 4 dead 2? 2009-06-14 12:27:10 Reply

it is a whole different game new enviornment new, new bosses, new weapons, new people, and it is supposed to be alot harder

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Response to A Boycott against left 4 dead 2? 2009-06-14 12:29:55 Reply

The only reason the boycott is "successful" is the same reason internet memes exist;

The vast majority of internet socialites are sheep, and as such require direction from the internet lifers than bother wasting their time creating such things.

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Response to A Boycott against left 4 dead 2? 2009-06-14 13:43:46 Reply

At 6/14/09 10:06 AM, Jackho wrote: ValVe said they will continue to make free DLC for the first game after L4D2 is released

though why call it Left 4 Dead 2?
i would have called it Left 2 Die

I think it might confuse some people with the numbers and the different titles.


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Response to A Boycott against left 4 dead 2? 2009-06-14 13:47:21 Reply

The only reason I'd think people would boycott the game is because it's too soon to make a new one. They didn't need to make another. I mean look at TF2, it's still running fine. (Updates hopefully coming soon though.)


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Response to A Boycott against left 4 dead 2? 2009-06-14 13:59:26 Reply

I've joined it.

The game is being released November 17th 2009, whereas Left 4 Dead was released November 18th 2008.

That means that in less than a year they release one good update, which added a new game mode and added the two remaining maps to Survival mode, which really should have been done on release, and the fact they've released a "Game of the Year" edition just 6 months down the line seems annoying whe compared to TF2 which has had a good 2GB of maps, models, weapons, etc since release and hasn't even seen like a "half of classes updated on disc" edition sort of thing.

I wouldn't mind paying for Left 4 Dead 2 as like DLC, it'll cost £35 on release for PC, and I wouldn't mind paying like £15-20 for it, but the fact that Valve promised a good amount of updates and content and still hasn't delivered much at all really annoys me.

Left 4 Dead will also be made obsolete with the release of Left 4 Dead 2.

"WE'VE GOT A NEW DIRECTOR HUD DUH! NOW IT CHOOSES YOUR ROUTES AND TEH WEATHERORZ OMFG WHOLE NEW GAME!!!"

No Valve, just because you've released "AI Director 2.0" does not mean you have the rights to release a new game, so what? you can change the weather? so we have to take a different route? whoop-dee-fucking-doo.

"BUT WE HVAE NEW SUURVIV0RS!!!!!"

Again, big whoop, new miodels and skins, anyone can release that for free, and I actually guarentee that someone will skin and remodel the Left 4 Dead survivors to look like those in Left 4 Dead 2.

"WE ADEDD NEW WEAPONS THO!!!!!!!1!!!1111"

Well done Valve, you gave us 5 primary weapons on release and one secondary and still ahevn't added anything else, we've got six guns, and let's face it no-one uses the hunting rifle (inb4 "LOL NOOB JUST CUZ U ACNT UZE IT!!!"), what's that? you've added melle weapons? Ok a chainsaw, cool, and a baseball bat? not as cool as the chainsaw, but yeah. A... A frying pan? Are you kidding me? Seriously, everyone is just going to use the chainsaw unless it has an ammo count.

Seriously Valve, there is nothing there you can't release with several updates.

Fuck you Valve, fuck you.


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Response to A Boycott against left 4 dead 2? 2009-06-14 14:03:08 Reply

Oh and, more like 30,000

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Response to A Boycott against left 4 dead 2? 2009-06-14 14:45:47 Reply

At 6/14/09 01:59 PM, H-A-X-O-R-Z wrote: Nerd rage

It doesn't surprise me all that shit you said considering that emo look on your profile picture.

No matter how much you bitch about it, these guys are releasing this game and you'll buy it anyway.


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Response to A Boycott against left 4 dead 2? 2009-06-14 14:50:12 Reply

At 6/14/09 02:45 PM, Fuoco wrote:
It doesn't surprise me all that shit you said considering that emo look on your profile picture.

No matter how much you bitch about it, these guys are releasing this game and you'll buy it anyway.

Exactly.

How many sports titles come out each year, that are literally exactly the same as the previous. At at max have very slight tweaks.

For people who didn't buy L4D they will get this one (me) and for people that have enough spare time in their life to actively complain about something they enjoy (you) will also buy it.

You'll spite yourself for a week and then you'll get bored of wanking over L4H and buy it, along with the new figurines that will be released.

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Response to A Boycott against left 4 dead 2? 2009-06-14 14:53:29 Reply

At 6/14/09 02:03 PM, H-A-X-O-R-Z wrote: Oh and, more like 30,000

It would seem I have underestimated the power of collective stupidity.


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Response to A Boycott against left 4 dead 2? 2009-06-14 14:57:07 Reply

Once again, the collective 4 inch penis of the Video Game forum inserts itself into the crusty, elasticized anus of VALVe and Gabe Newell.


Stop looking

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Response to A Boycott against left 4 dead 2? 2009-06-14 15:26:54 Reply

At 6/14/09 02:57 PM, SCUD14 wrote: Once again, the collective 4 inch penis of the Video Game forum inserts itself into the crusty, elasticized anus of VALVe and Gabe Newell.

I assume you speak from experience.


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Response to A Boycott against left 4 dead 2? 2009-06-14 15:28:09 Reply

At 6/13/09 09:24 PM, DarkSytze wrote: people are boycotting because they feel they have been ripped off, and it's right for them to boycott. valve promised plenty of updates, they got one game mode and that was it. is valve promises it's community something they should have kept themselves to that promise instead of jumping the shark.

What the developpers, Valve South said, they they were indeed coming with some DLC but that they finished up adding so much shit that it had to be a sequel, and they also said they would make the old campaigns compatible to not have to split the community.

I feel like the people that are boycotting the game are just a bunch of whiny little faggots that think they deserve free shit.