DnB Beats

[alertG]

For some reason, whenever I think of a very speedy beat in my head that would sound great for my song, I just can't create it in FL. It always comes out sloppy. It may be the instruments some times, but i just can't get the right order lol.

Does this happen to anyone else? Does anyone have advice or suggestions etc on how to make fast beats? How do you go about doing it?

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[loansindi]

Based on what you've said, all I can really say is....

do it better.

You haven't given enough information (at least for me) to help you figure out why what you produce sounds 'sloppy'

Examples would be good.

[alertG]

hmmm. i mean it does take practice, but mine always seem raw, probably because it lacks a good bass. I was just wondering what people use and how they start making a beat.

i can get started but they dont seem as powerful as really good ones.

[Khuskan]

Slow your metronome right down, I'm talking 60-100 bpm, lay out your beat then speed it up incrementally, moving bits as required to get the sound you want.

[alertG]

At 6/13/09 01:03 PM, loansindi wrote: Based on what you've said, all I can really say is....

do it better.

You haven't given enough information (at least for me) to help you figure out why what you produce sounds 'sloppy'

Examples would be good.

okay so i made this track just now putting together some instruments. i think my problem was balancing the volumes of the hats and snares. it still seems a little raw to me. maybe i could some variation too though.

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if you could tell me what you think, cause i havent really made dnb beats that much.

[loansindi]

At 6/13/09 01:33 PM, alertG wrote: okay so i made this track just now putting together some instruments. i think my problem was balancing the volumes of the hats and snares. it still seems a little raw to me. maybe i could some variation too though.

DnB isn't exactly a genre I'd say I'm experienced in, but the loop sounds like you kind of threw it together. That's never a good thing.

[alertG]

i noticed that most have a repeating quiet hat in the back, louder snare every other beat. but the kick i usually have problems with, especially because it varies a lot. i guess it just has to be set on how you feel it should be. but also i think the beat should be made before the melody. it seems easier.

[xtiko]

At 6/13/09 01:33 PM, alertG wrote:

At 6/13/09 01:03 PM, loansindi wrote: Based on what you've said, all I can really say is....

do it better.

You haven't given enough information (at least for me) to help you figure out why what you produce sounds 'sloppy'

Examples would be good.

okay so i made this track just now putting together some instruments. i think my problem was balancing the volumes of the hats and snares. it still seems a little raw to me. maybe i could some variation too though.
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/2 46428
if you could tell me what you think, cause i havent really made dnb beats that much.

Well first I will tell you that the volume levels are bad. The drums really sound distant and sort of distorted, maybe its the bass you are using. Secondly, you should bring the BPM down to 100 before you make the actualy sequence, and gradually speed it up making changes as needed, like raising the volume to an specific instrument, etc, etc... Overall you aren't bad, you just need to put more thinking into the song.

[alertG]

slowing the tempo to 100 does help a lot. i agree the snare is distant and it does sound better EQd better. im still working on it. thanks for the help so far

[alertG]

Okay, I updated the track with some changes to the bass, snare, synth effects, and beat.

i think it is much better than before but i still think that it could be better yet.

[xtiko]

At 6/13/09 02:19 PM, alertG wrote: Okay, I updated the track with some changes to the bass, snare, synth effects, and beat.

i think it is much better than before but i still think that it could be better yet.

It is much better now, but still the drums are too low. The kick drum is barely noticeable. Try amping the drums a tad bit so they can be heard, but are not louder than the lead itself.

[Cross666]

The best way to learn how to make DnB is to listen to many different styles of jungle, once you move beyond just DnB and experience other stuff like Jungle, DarkStep etc... you start to pick up on patterns and certain styles that many dnb artists tend to use, once you can identify that much, basically like already mentioned, tap that bpm way low and start trying to recreate those patterns, once you can do that much, start adding your own variations until you can finally make something that sounds very unique to you. Think baby steps, if something is too complicated to learn now, work on something easier and more comprehensive, that way you can fine-tune what you can understand/know and you'll find that going back to the harder stuff is actually rather easy.

Some things to check out if you're trying to get into dnb, Reese Bass and breakbeat patterns. Learn how-to.

[darthduba]

At 6/13/09 05:34 PM, Cross666 wrote: The best way to learn how to make DnB is to listen to many different styles of jungle, once you move beyond just DnB and experience other stuff like Jungle, DarkStep etc... you start to pick up on patterns and certain styles that many dnb artists tend to use, once you can identify that much, basically like already mentioned, tap that bpm way low and start trying to recreate those patterns, once you can do that much, start adding your own variations until you can finally make something that sounds very unique to you. Think baby steps, if something is too complicated to learn now, work on something easier and more comprehensive, that way you can fine-tune what you can understand/know and you'll find that going back to the harder stuff is actually rather easy.

Some things to check out if you're trying to get into dnb, Reese Bass and breakbeat patterns. Learn how-to.

I kinda disagree. I am a DnB artist myself and I always start of at 180 bpm. sometimes 175 if I am making jungle. If you slice a beat at 100bpm and then move up the speed you cut of the ends of your percussion. If you bring it up untill 180 straight away you will avoid having that problem.
Just start of placing the kick and snares for the main rythm. Then build around it with the hats and other percs. I've let you an in depth review on your song. That might brighten things up for you a bit.

Ofc like all replies said, practice is the most important. So keep busy making DnB :)

Greetz Duba

Feel free to send me a PM when you bring up something new. I'll be glad to give you another review.

[Kaizerwolf]

Look bud (OP), DNB should never start with the drums. Any genre, for that matter, shouldnt start with drums. If you really know what you're doing, sure, it can. But make all you're melodies first. Then, build percussion into it. If DNB doesnt fit, it gives you a chance to change the genre.

[poopr1221]

Better sample choice. DNB is a largely sample based genre, and if you have bad drum samples, it's just not going to work that well for you.

[jarrydn]

Here's the basic drum pattern for most DnB style beats:

[jarrydn]

And yes, you definitely need phat samples :)

[xtiko]

At 6/13/09 09:41 PM, jarrydn wrote: Here's the basic drum pattern for most DnB style beats:

That is actually very helpful. You sir, have gain my respect.

[LightKeeper]

Also, make sure you're picking correct note values. Don't mix a 16th with an 8th.

Judging by the sound of your song as well, i'd definitely update the hi hat samples, they sound like the default FL ones which I personally hate. I'd also recommend keeping some form of emphasis on the beat with the snare, it seems like you're putting a huge amount of focus on the off beats with the snares, which is nice in some areas but it can also be distracting and disorienting.

[Phoog]

You need some new samples.
Don't put as much hi-hats in there, and then put a slightly delay on them. Or you can get fancy with your velocities.
Put a break sample in there too and high pass it. Just have it sitting in the background, though.

Using the basic drum pattern that someone above posted is a good way to start as well.
Also, YouTube tutorials :)

[YouriX]

Wow ive been reading all your advices and i even thaught of trying this out!

Layered 2 difrint kicks

Layered 3 difrint Snares

Layered 3 difrint hithats

Using the basic DnB pattren shown above.

Sliced a breakbeat and EQed it and filter basicly added some effect

and viola!!

http://yourix.webs.com/YRX-The%20savior.
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[alertG]

At 6/15/09 08:35 AM, YouriX wrote: Wow ive been reading all your advices and i even thaught of trying this out!

Layered 2 difrint kicks

Layered 3 difrint Snares

Layered 3 difrint hithats

Using the basic DnB pattren shown above.

Sliced a breakbeat and EQed it and filter basicly added some effect

and viola!!

I really like that loop. Good job on that!

And thanks for all of your suggestions they are really helpful. The opinions are really usefull as well.

[Phoog]

At 6/15/09 08:35 AM, YouriX wrote: Wow ive been reading all your advices and i even thaught of trying this out!

Sounds sick man. All you need to put on top of that now is a full blown thud of a kick drum and a nice deep snappy snare. Then it'd be perfection.

[YouriX]

At 6/16/09 03:43 PM, DexterPowercrush wrote:

At 6/15/09 08:35 AM, YouriX wrote: Wow ive been reading all your advices and i even thaught of trying this out!

Sounds sick man. All you need to put on top of that now is a full blown thud of a kick drum and a nice deep snappy snare. Then it'd be perfection.

Wow! Any specific drum/snre plug-ins? I wanna try it out!!

[Swerve]

At 6/13/09 08:25 PM, Kaizerwolf wrote: Look bud (OP), DNB should never start with the drums. Any genre, for that matter, shouldnt start with drums. If you really know what you're doing, sure, it can. But make all you're melodies first. Then, build percussion into it. If DNB doesnt fit, it gives you a chance to change the genre.

My kind sir, though I respect your point of view, the genre isn't called DRUM and Bass for nothing. I know quite a few guys that start out building a drumloop first.
That being said, everyone has his or her way of working. If he wants to start doing drums first, then he can do so. If you want to begin with your melody, then that's fine. Let him decide for himself what he prefers.