This is a question that has been bothering me for years. Since they both work for the executive branch, would say, a police Captain have more authority than a military Lieutenant?
Meaning if both were somehow put on the same duty, would the lower ranked individual have to obey his higher ranked superior regardless of service?
At 6/12/09 07:03 PM, Silverchaos wrote:
Meaning if both were somehow put on the same duty, would the lower ranked individual have to obey his higher ranked superior regardless of service?
I'd think it would be a matter of jurisdiction.
Then again if it's big enough for the military to be involved, I doubt the cops would be gung-ho to stay and argue.
At 6/12/09 07:05 PM, Piss wrote: Aren't police just municipal or by state or whatever, while military is country?
Yeah the they are, police handle matter back home while military tend to handle international disputes. But since they work for the same governmental branch I have always wondered if a high ranked Police officer is superior to a low ranked Military officer.
No, Police Departments are not part of the DoD.
A Private in the Army could go tell the Chief of Police to go screw himself and get away with no punishment.
The Police do a respectable service, but when it comes to an actually emergency (war on home territory), they wouldn't do anything other than attempt to maintain the lives of civilians by providing civil services.
I, personally, know that I would never listen to a Police Captain as a Lieutenant in the Military.
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At 6/12/09 07:08 PM, physicsman09 wrote: A Private in the Army could go tell the Chief of Police to go screw himself and get away with no punishment.
I could tell the Chief of Police the same thing, but I get your point.
At 6/12/09 07:14 PM, jewdudewtf wrote:At 6/12/09 07:08 PM, physicsman09 wrote: A Private in the Army could go tell the Chief of Police to go screw himself and get away with no punishment.I could tell the Chief of Police the same thing, but I get your point.
Yea, good point I should have said that the lowest member of the Military could disobey an order from the Chief of Police and get away with it.
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No. The army owns all! This is why I'm gonna join the Marines or some shit.
At 6/12/09 07:31 PM, X-Gary-Gigax-X wrote: physicman09 pretty much answered your question.
Besides, I'd rather listen to an Army Officer, maybe even just a soldier, rather than a cop.
I guess he did.
Despite training to be an Police Officer myself, as a civilian I would listen to a soldier over an officer myself, it was just a question thats been bugging me for years and I never got a straight answer.
A FEDERAL military unit would outrank a STATE officer... They both work for the executive branch but at different levels.
Maybe it depends on what's happening
How would you like a big fat cup of SHUT THE FUCK UP :D
I would have to say miltary anything outranks local law enforcement.
If the two had to work together, lets say during a wild fire evacuation, military personnel would outrank a local police chief.
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Neither would have to take orders from either of them.
They do different things. The military isn't allowed to carry out police actions, while police need to operate within their nation's borders.
At 8/3/09 12:28 AM, HandsomePete wrote: ...while police need to operate within their nation's borders.
County's borders. Unless you live in a different country than I do.
According to newgrounds..."private" is higher than all "police" ranks. So military must be better than police m i rite?
At 8/3/09 12:30 AM, Danavers wrote:At 8/3/09 12:28 AM, HandsomePete wrote: ...while police need to operate within their nation's borders.County's borders. Unless you live in a different country than I do.
One could include the FBI as a police force. I'm making it fully encompassing.
At 8/3/09 12:46 AM, HandsomePete wrote: One could include the FBI as a police force. I'm making it fully encompassing.
No. The FBI is a specialized task force. Get it right.
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At 6/12/09 07:05 PM, Piss wrote: Aren't police just municipal or by state or whatever, while military is country?
military = goverment
No. Police are instructed to "arrest before, kill if necessary" a motto I like.
The military is more "kill, fuck up this country socially and economically, massacre civilians, rape the women, then pull out and admire the nation we have 'conquered'."
No I do not hate America, I hate war in general.
At 8/3/09 01:58 AM, LinaInverseFan wrote: No. Police are instructed to "arrest before, kill if necessary" a motto I like.
The military is more "kill, fuck up this country socially and economically, massacre civilians, rape the women, then pull out and admire the nation we have 'conquered'."
I am glad I got out before Bush got elected
My grandpa was a Chief Petty Officer in the navy, and he could pull rank on cop if he wanted to.
My opinions are so useless, I don't even listen to them.
Simple answer:
If the military has no jurisdiction, they cannot do a thing, and the police have full authority to tell the military to not get involved.
If the military has jurisdiction, or is granted temporary jurisdiction, the police all answer to ALL military personnel.
-Eulif Davis-
Cops are local and stuff
Military are national
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It depends, if both were in a small face off, who would kill who first?
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At 6/12/09 07:03 PM, Silverchaos wrote: This is a question that has been bothering me for years.
lol?
At 6/12/09 07:08 PM, physicsman09 wrote: No, Police Departments are not part of the DoD.
A Private in the Army could go tell the Chief of Police to go screw himself and get away with no punishment.
A higher ranked Officer could be put in charge, he could put the Private in charge of a Major. Even though its uncommon it does happen.
I guess the same thing would happen for Military/Police interactions.
Jurisdiction determines who orders who around.
Military is federal so largely would be put in control if there was a situation where they need to work together. It's feasible though that there could be some form of situation where federal assistance is being provided but jurisdiction is given to the police based on their personal experience in the situation. Though such incidents would be few and far between I would imagine.
