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At 6/11/09 04:02 AM, bboston7 wrote: If you use a water bong, it's not that bad at all. It's mostly hot smoking that is bad for your lungs.

That's terrible advice, there's a kind of infection (which name escapes me) that you can get from long term water bong use, there's a reason adult pot smokers use pipes.

At 6/11/09 04:10 AM, ImlunchBoxx wrote: meh
once the feelings gone its not fun
but then your addicted

hah, oh how th ey get you

Seconded. That's how I couldn't quit. Sure, I might be able to go a couple days without a pack but then I'd be back on it again. You get that urge and then you realize no matter how gross of a habit it turns out to be, you can't just throw it away and you need that one more puff from your smoke. I'd probably be 1000 dollars richer if I didn't start three years ago.

You want to be cool, right? Cool people smoke cigarettes. It's that simple.

At 6/11/09 02:39 AM, blindedbymusic wrote: ill be turning 18 in a few months
i really have wanted to try smoking

Dude- it's your own freaking choice. Don't listen to people who say you should smoke, or that you shouldn't- make up yer own damn mind.

; You don't sound 17 to me.

I picked up smoking a couple months ago because smoking weed at school/work isn't practical. I'm trying to get the cheap native cigarettes to help me cut down but I still really enjoy a smoke especially when I'm drinking.

Most of my friends have been smoking a pack a day since the beginning to mid highschool. Two of them quit in the last couple months, one of them had phunomonia? (dont know how to spell it) and the doctor took x-rays of his lungs and showed him spots that he developed from smoking that CAN turn cancerous. Personally I think his mom told the doctor to scare him.

My uncle also died of lung cancer, and my friends dad isn't in the greatest health because of it.

But if it makes you happy why not? You need to decide whats more important, the risk of bad health or enjoying a cig. There is no right answer, of course stereotypically we live in a society that binges on good health and exercise even though we still remain a very unhealthy continent.

DO what you want

It's a waste of money and bad for your health.. Why would you want to?

Smoking is great buddy. But make sure you watch your dosage, I think if you get too high it doesn't matter how many people you are with that makes you comfortable, you will feel uncomfortable. That would be my only advice on your first time attempting to get high, just watch your dosage..you'll thank me later :)

Don't smoke, it's arguably the most addictive thing on the planet and more than half of my family are dead or dying because of smoking, I watched my mother go from seemingly completely healthy to barely able to walk in only a week, she was given only a month to live but died a year later very painfully after being in a wheelchair for a month.

Even if someone seems healthy and smoke they can have multiple cancers growing that have not yet reached the stage where they cause physical symptoms. By that time it can be so advanced that the only thing left to do is to keep yourself busy while you die.

At 6/11/09 10:25 AM, Snake-Arsenic wrote: Don't smoke, it's arguably the most addictive thing on the planet and more than half of my family are dead or dying because of smoking, I watched my mother go from seemingly completely healthy to barely able to walk in only a week, she was given only a month to live but died a year later very painfully after being in a wheelchair for a month.

Even if someone seems healthy and smoke they can have multiple cancers growing that have not yet reached the stage where they cause physical symptoms. By that time it can be so advanced that the only thing left to do is to keep yourself busy while you die.

Umm, I think we're talking about the ganja here aren't we..why would some one want to try smoking tobacco for the first time on their birthday lol?

Make sure to be physically active while you smoke, or if you're lazy, and smoke trust me you'll be a lazy bum for awhile, and get in horrible shape.
When you stop chew stride gum (or whatever you like) and maybe it'll help.

I should know :P

At 6/11/09 10:27 AM, BlAcKjAcK wrote: Umm, I think we're talking about the ganja here aren't we..why would some one want to try smoking tobacco for the first time on their birthday lol?

Even so it's still relevant because he referenced a lifetime smoker and even though it isn't as addictive as tobacco it does the same damage, except pot has the added mental illness if the smoker is susceptible.

At 6/11/09 10:34 AM, Snake-Arsenic wrote: Even so it's still relevant because he referenced a lifetime smoker and even though it isn't as addictive as tobacco it does the same damage, except pot has the added mental illness if the smoker is susceptible.

But it's not deadly, I was really speaking on the part when you said

more than half of my family are dead or dying because of smoking, I watched my mother go from seemingly completely healthy to barely able to walk in only a week, she was given only a month to live but died a year later very painfully after being in a wheelchair for a month.

I know way too many people who smokes marijuana (young and old), even medicinal marijuana patients, no one I known has died directly from mj smokin'

Don't smoke.

ok ok... lets break it down for you simple minded people...

whats good about smoking?...

1: Nothing...

oh buts it makes you feel nice

No no no... you think its nice beacuse you crave for something you shouldnt be craving in the first place... its making you feel normal again...

Bad things about smoking?...

1. does your lungs in
2. costs alot of money for a way of killing yourself
3. contains all sorts of crap
4. gives bad breath
5. girls wont want to kiss you if you smoke and they dont...
6. your clothes with smell as well as you
7. falling asleep with a cig can cause fires
8. getting all crazed without one for a while
9. constant breaks to have more cig's
10.....

i could carry on but you get the point...

im not saying not to do it... go ahead and kill yourself of slowly while been poor at the same time... smooth...

" a man walks into a shop and wants to kill himself... the man hands over a small box and inside is a white stick..."

At 6/11/09 10:38 AM, BlAcKjAcK wrote:

At 6/11/09 10:34 AM, Snake-Arsenic wrote: Even so it's still relevant because he referenced a lifetime smoker and even though it isn't as addictive as tobacco it does the same damage, except pot has the added mental illness if the smoker is susceptible.

But it's not deadly, I was really speaking on the part when you said

Marijuana is deadly and it seems like it's not because it's spread out over a longer period of time so someone has to either smoke a lot or have a strong history of illness in their family.

I know way too many people who smokes marijuana (young and old), even medicinal marijuana patients, no one I known has died directly from mj smokin'

I don't know many marijuana smokers but I met someone who smoked it almost exclusively and was getting treated with chemotherapy.

My main point here in this case is the smoke itself is what's dangerous, not the substance being smoked.

My only problem is expense.

I smoke once in a while and I'm not addicted, but I wouldn't recommend it. It doesn't really do anything good for you and the cons outweigh the pros.

At 6/11/09 04:07 AM, Fim wrote:

At 6/11/09 03:57 AM, bboston7 wrote: Still bad for you...

If we're going down that road, then fatty foods, holding your breathe underwater, stressful jobs, hell most things in life are bad for you, everything in moderation.

In fairness, holding your breath under water is a lot better for you than not holding your breath under water.

Simple answer, NO. Don't smoke.

save your lungs, save your money, prevent cancer, prevent addictions, save your penis

prevent bad breath, save your mouth hygene, prevent smelly hair and clothes, save your endurance,

prevent cardiovascular disease, save your memory, prevent frequent coughing.

Save your Life.

Generally I'd advise you not to start, cigarettes aren't worth it in the long run.

You'll enjoy it for a few months, as long as you can keep the amount you smoke down. Once you get addicted though, you begin smoking so much that you no longer feel a nicotine rush, and that's when you need to think about quitting.

Most of the anti-smoking 'OMG YOU'LL GET CANCER AND DIE' is based on studies on people who smoke more than 20 cigarettes a day, and you won't even be considered a heavy smoker until you get near that limit at medical practices. It is a scare tactic, but you shouldn't take that information lightly.

In the long run, light smokers have been shown in a handful of studies to be less susceptible to upper-respiratory tract infections (colds, flu), as a result of the slightly antibiotic/antiviral qualities of nicotine smoke as well as the increased urge to cough and sneeze which protects you from those illnesses, but the downsides really do outweigh this.

Smoking is also an effective treatment for low blood pressure, however they can also CAUSE low blood pressure from extended use, leading to a physiological addiction.

Also, it's expensive as shit.

Everyone wants to try smoking at one point in your their life. Best way to do it is to borrow a smoke off of someone who does. That way if you don't like it, and don't want to continue, you didn't waste your money on a whole pack.

its good, but bad. It feels good when you stressed, or when your drinking, but that is pretty much it. If you get hooked on it, it is a horrible habbit.

Don't just try it because others are doing it. that is the worst logic you could ever have.

From cigs to cocaine, people who do drugs need a puppy or something.

At 6/11/09 12:57 PM, jmalouin7 wrote: Everyone wants to try smoking at one point in your their life.

Everyone?
No, not everyone.

At 6/11/09 02:39 AM, blindedbymusic wrote: ive seen a woman smoke for 69 straight years and shes in great health

That's impossible.

Do you even know anything about smoking?

At 6/11/09 11:38 AM, Raguel wrote:

At 6/11/09 04:07 AM, Fim wrote:

At 6/11/09 03:57 AM, bboston7 wrote: Still bad for you...

If we're going down that road, then fatty foods, holding your breathe underwater, stressful jobs, hell most things in life are bad for you, everything in moderation.

In fairness, holding your breath under water is a lot better for you than not holding your breath under water.

You know what I mean :P there are tons of fun things that are bad for you, my biggest weakness is pizza. My point was, 1 cigarette isnt going to give you cancer, not even 100, in fact you'd need to smoke many tens of thousands to be at risk, and alot of people who have never smoked in their life get cancer anyway. And as the original poster said, sometimes people can smoke all their lives and just never develop cancer.

You waited until you were 18 to try it?

And it's up to you, personally, I don't like them. I've tried it once, and I found it awful.

Smoking doesn't really do anything except make you look a little cooler. If you want to stay healthy, smoke with a fan on, outside, or by a window so you don't keep the smoke in your lungs. Smoking leaves a really nasty taste in your mouth, so have something sweet or sour nearby. Lastly, You don't really get any kind of high from smoking. Everything just seems a little more... vivid. I wouldn't do it, it isn't really that fun either, but if you're playing a guitar and smoking at the same time, you look like the ultimate badass.

I'm never going to try smoking. I'd rather spend the money on something better. Like a pack of bubblegum.

They just seem like a complete waste of time and energy. They cost you an arm and a leg, they're addictive and they're harmful to your health.

I hate cigarettes, I smoke cigars on occasion when I'm cruising with my buddies. Just cause I look funny with a cigar in my mouth.

Weed exists for a reason.
To replace the dangerous kinds of smoke.