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At 6/6/09 06:48 PM, dobo69 wrote: this is just my opinion but i always thought that god expected us to sin, like a lot, but if we accept him as our lord then we will be saved and forgiven for our sins. so as long as we accept God as our one and only true god then we are allowed to sin without going to hell. but i might be wrong, who the hell really knows what religion is right, if any religion is right.

So like you're saying I could give all my money to charity and be a Pagan and you could murder people as a Christian and you'd get to chill with God while I burn in Hell?

At 6/6/09 10:49 PM, Eye8UrBrains wrote: And to everyone bashing on Christianity no one knows if God exists or not, we just have faith

But you cannot prove that god exists, and without proof, the chances of his existence are so small that they can only be expressed exponentially.

At 6/7/09 12:51 AM, AndrewGlisson13 wrote:

At 6/6/09 10:49 PM, Eye8UrBrains wrote: And to everyone bashing on Christianity no one knows if God exists or not, we just have faith

But you cannot prove that god exists, and without proof, the chances of his existence are so small that they can only be expressed exponentially.

Hate to break it to you but there's really no proof there is no God either.

Hey, I have an idea, let's just stop giving a fuck and get along while we're here!

Good luck. I tried to quit once, but not because of my religion, and I couldn't do it. The most I went was a week.

At 6/7/09 12:54 AM, TheZachs wrote: Hate to break it to you but there's really no proof there is no God either.

Hey, I have an idea, let's just stop giving a fuck and get along while we're here!

The lack of disproof doesn't increase the chances of gods existence.

God and Satan are the alt names of good and Evil.

Just because you think that god is real doesnt mean he exists and just becose i say he doesnt exists doesnt mean he doesnt...

The bible was just a guide for us humans not to act like crazy animals. Because simple people with low education wouldnt listen to anything or anyone, they needed a deity that MADE them follow those rules. So to belive in God means to lower yourself to the lvl of an ignorant person.

The idea is to be a human, becose we are... after all... humans. And humans masturbate, have sex, hate, love, feel, thnk (good and bad things) and learn from all of it...

At 6/6/09 06:43 PM, Eye8UrBrains wrote: Masturbation is just a gateway to lust.

Enjoy your hypocrisy.

At 6/6/09 07:10 PM, Samuraikyo wrote:

At 6/6/09 07:09 PM, imnotaustin wrote: But you never answered my question, OP. How is sperm wasted when mean have a near limitless amount?

They die. Those millions of living sperms die, and go to waste.

They go to waste without ejaculation anyways. Inside, or outside the body, sperm have a very short lifespan. And the body naturally has nocturnal emissions if too much dead sperm collect in your ball sack. Argument void.

At 6/7/09 12:54 AM, TheZachs wrote: Hate to break it to you but there's really no proof there is no God either.

You make the claim, you have the burden of proof.

At 6/6/09 06:43 PM, Eye8UrBrains wrote: Masturbation is just a gateway to lust. You can't have masturbation without lust, and that is why it is a sin.

even if you could do it without lusting, it's still a sin. It's just a selfish attempt at personal pleasure. That's right it's selfish. Either outside of marriage or in marriage, it's still sinful. If you are stimulatng your sexual organs for sake of personal gain and not for making babies, then it is just a waste of God's gift.

; I may not be the best christian, but I still follow my beliefs to the end. I used to have trouble with an addiction to masturbation, but I have always known it was wrong. Recently I have decided to quit, and hopefully I can stick to it. Pray for me guys.
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; Please don't Spam or flame, this is an honest opinion
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; PS yeah I date girls, but I always tell them my standards on sex before we get into too serious of a relationship

ok dude but what if you jizz in your sleep bacause you dreamed about that hot chick you saw yesterday with the HUGE tits

Oh, my God.

I'm so tired of the same boring pro- and anti-Christian arguments.

Being gay means you're hated by Christians, right?

If so... I masturbate. Lots.

At 6/7/09 01:15 AM, pavolini wrote: God and Satan are the alt names of good and Evil.

Just because you think that god is real doesnt mean he exists and just becose i say he doesnt exists doesnt mean he doesnt...

So to belive in God means to lower yourself to the lvl of an ignorant person.

This is what irks me when I read these arguments. You say "just because I say he doesn't exist doesn't mean he doesn't..." Fine, but then it follows with the classic sentence or it's variation: "So to believe in God means to lower yourself to the lvl of an ignorant person." First you take what appears to be an Agnostic point of view, then immediately after you sound like a condescending douche. Why don't you just come out and say it instead of dressing it up?

The idea is to be a human, becose we are... after all... humans. And humans masturbate, have sex, hate, love, feel, thnk (good and bad things) and learn from all of it...

I agree, but I'm no ignorant person.

At 6/6/09 06:56 PM, Axit wrote: I hope this is a troll. If not, I'm avoiding these forums like the plague.

ye, newgrounds forums are where all the /b/ trolls learn to be trolls!

Sigh.. I feel bad for people who are so uptight about their religion, and ESPECIALLY those who post on public forums to try to spread their word of shit.

man fuck this shit.

if people didnt masturbate, there be so much sexual tension, everyone be uptight all the time, rape rates would skyrocket.

and incase nobody knew, blue balls is very painful.

The fact that none of these religious idiots get blueballs just shows that they are all about the outside image anyways. There is no way they could go without jerking off.. forever. They lie. They do it anyways, just in secret. I hate hypocrits.

At 6/6/09 06:43 PM, Eye8UrBrains wrote: Masturbation is just a gateway to lust. You can't have masturbation without lust, and that is why it is a sin.

It's a natural impulse, I can't believe how stifling and judgmental christianity can be.

even if you could do it without lusting, it's still a sin. It's just a selfish attempt at personal pleasure. That's right it's selfish. Either outside of marriage or in marriage, it's still sinful. If you are stimulatng your sexual organs for sake of personal gain and not for making babies, then it is just a waste of God's gift.

sin is subjective. plus that should mean that sex is a waste of 'God's gift' aslo, as out of the millions of sperm a man produces only 1 of them gets used, surely that's still a waste.

I may not be the best christian, but I still follow my beliefs to the end. I used to have trouble with an addiction to masturbation, but I have always known it was wrong. Recently I have decided to quit, and hopefully I can stick to it. Pray for me guys.

You been guilt-tripped, don't be ashamed of something everybody does. It's your own personal decision if you wana quit so I'm not gona judge you, so long as you're doing it for the right reasons.

Please don't Spam or flame, this is an honest opinion

PS yeah I date girls, but I always tell them my standards on sex before we get into too serious of a relationship

good for you

masturbation is what ever you make it, by putting such a taboo on it you are only setting yourself up to fail

At 6/6/09 06:43 PM, Eye8UrBrains wrote: Masturbation is just a gateway to lust. You can't have masturbation without lust, and that is why it is a sin.

even if you could do it without lusting, it's still a sin. It's just a selfish attempt at personal pleasure. That's right it's selfish. Either outside of marriage or in marriage, it's still sinful. If you are stimulatng your sexual organs for sake of personal gain and not for making babies, then it is just a waste of God's gift.

I may not be the best christian, but I still follow my beliefs to the end. I used to have trouble with an addiction to masturbation, but I have always known it was wrong. Recently I have decided to quit, and hopefully I can stick to it. Pray for me guys.

Please don't Spam or flame, this is an honest opinion

PS yeah I date girls, but I always tell them my standards on sex before we get into too serious of a relationship

Are you sure you date girls there buddy beacause mainly based on what you have said jerking off is a sin of lust. and if I cant lust doesnt that sound pretty gay? So next time you post you may want a better defense than " and yes I date girls"

At 6/6/09 06:43 PM, Eye8UrBrains wrote: Masturbation is just a gateway to lust. You can't have masturbation without lust, and that is why it is a sin.

Masturbation can be considered an act of relieving yourself of lust. After you whack, you sorta feel out of the mood for a while. Ever notice that?

even if you could do it without lusting, it's still a sin. It's just a selfish attempt at personal pleasure. That's right it's selfish. Either outside of marriage or in marriage, it's still sinful. If you are stimulatng your sexual organs for sake of personal gain and not for making babies, then it is just a waste of God's gift.

Thou shalt not eat for your own personal gain, so sayeth the Lord, your God.

Thou shalt not take a bath in forty days for your own personal gain, so sayeth the Lord your God.

Thou shalt not try to make your stay here at hotel Earth a more comfortable one, so sayeth the Lord your God.

If any one of you dare to do these things, I will smite ye who hath done the wrong. Why? Because the Lord your God said so, beeyotch.

I may not be the best christian, but I still follow my beliefs to the end. I used to have trouble with an addiction to masturbation, but I have always known it was wrong. Recently I have decided to quit, and hopefully I can stick to it. Pray for me guys.

Please don't Spam or flame, this is an honest opinion

PS yeah I date girls, but I always tell them my standards on sex before we get into too serious of a relationship

Hooray. Hope you go into a relapse.

I'm Christian but some stuff is just too much.

..Isn't it just more logical that the pleasure of sex is just a trait we got through evolution to encourage reproduction? By means of natural selection, of course. Implying that a person without this trait would not make as many babies and therefore the trait has a much better survival rate within a population.

This is just stupid.. I'm not gonna reply to each and every one of you. All I've got to say is, please, for the sake of our future generations, think science above anything else.

What if I masturbate on god. Does that count?

At 6/6/09 06:43 PM, Eye8UrBrains wrote: Masturbation is just a gateway to lust. You can't have masturbation without lust, and that is why it is a sin.

even if you could do it without lusting, it's still a sin. It's just a selfish attempt at personal pleasure. That's right it's selfish. Either outside of marriage or in marriage, it's still sinful. If you are stimulatng your sexual organs for sake of personal gain and not for making babies, then it is just a waste of God's gift.

I may not be the best christian, but I still follow my beliefs to the end. I used to have trouble with an addiction to masturbation, but I have always known it was wrong. Recently I have decided to quit, and hopefully I can stick to it. Pray for me guys.

Please don't Spam or flame, this is an honest opinion

PS yeah I date girls, but I always tell them my standards on sex before we get into too serious of a relationship

I can't even begin to make a sensible post any more...
Far too many religious fucktards on NG at the moment...

If EVERYTHING bad or whatever is classed as a sin, then the internet is a sin... You typing here is a sin... This whole website is a sin...

Guess what? NO-ONE GIVES A FUCK
You're just being fucktarded and completely ignoring all logic and sense because of your idiotic religion...

Yeah, go fuck yourself... You "righteous" christians are making too many posts lately... Stop being hypocrites and fuck off...

See, this is a prime example of someone believing what they were told. I guarantee you have never read up on the 'Sin of Onan' and 'Levirate Law'. Seriously, read both sides of the Christian argument before affirming your faith by following what someone told you.

I see your point, but I shall do it anyway! *fap fap fap* WHAT?!

Whats so selfish about masturbation? It causes no harm, unless your thinking that it degrades the idea of the person being thought of...
Can't Christians accept other beliefs and Religions as much as their own though?

Let me ask you this, I'm interested as to how such a conservative Christian would respond:

If you had a wet dream; something that is completely beyond your control and is usually the result of a healthy, average male not getting any sexual stimulation, is it a sin?

Honest question btw.

At 6/6/09 06:52 PM, WeHaveFreshCookies wrote: Shut up. God, I hate people like you. He simply stated his opinion and you have to jump on him.

Want to know my opinion on the matter? I believe in God, I really do, but I honestly think Religion, and this is my OPINION, I am allowed to give it, is bullshit.