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At 6/6/09 02:27 PM, EpicFail wrote:
Now that the US has a new Government sort of thing, they want people to love the President and all that, so what they're doing is they created this fake sickness that is said to kill lots of people, they make up fake death tolls, because it's not like people are going to ask everybody in the world if they had a family member die from Swine Flu.

So, within time, I believe the Government is going to release a 'cure' for this fake sickness, so that everybody loves the new Government.

Ask the families of those who died from swine flu, especially in Mexico. I think they would beg to differ.

At 6/7/09 07:01 PM, Saruman200 wrote: Ask the families of those who died from swine flu, especially in Mexico. I think they would beg to differ.

OP's theory assumes that none of them ever existed.

Aside from the fact that the swine flu started in Mexico, not the U.S.; the biggest problem with that theory is that a pandemic would crash the economy and make people hate the government. More than usual of course.

Well three kids I know have had it so....

Yea.

I caused the swine flu *Mu hah hah * I'm a mad hog farmer *Mu hah hah *

At 6/6/09 02:27 PM, EpicFail wrote: This is just a theory...

Now that the US has a new Government sort of thing, they want people to love the President and all that, so what they're doing is they created this fake sickness that is said to kill lots of people, they make up fake death tolls, because it's not like people are going to ask everybody in the world if they had a family member die from Swine Flu.

So, within time, I believe the Government is going to release a 'cure' for this fake sickness, so that everybody loves the new Government.

Hmm, well even if that is true there is several little problems...

1. This swine-H1N1 (cough)BULLSHIT!(cough)flu has not killed nearly as many people as the regular flu, if people have died from it at all that is..... O_o

2. We all know that aids was created to eradicate homosexuals....nah I'm jk

3. I shouldn't have said several because I've run out of thingsa to say.....

At 6/6/09 03:29 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:
The fact that you thought of this while drunk, with no real evidence should have been a great clue not to take it seriously or share with the public.

You should share every thought no matter how asinine it may seem. What a pessimistic attitude, don't share your thoughts.

Pffft.

I think it's quite possible that all viruses are created by the governments, not the governments intentionally making them in lives, but rather, the type of society and economy that they produce, things on a massive scale.

Shit is bound to go wrong when you are doing things in such a way.

Jews did swine flu.

At 6/13/09 10:57 PM, JackPhantasm wrote: You should share every thought no matter how asinine it may seem. What a pessimistic attitude, don't share your thoughts.

No, you really shouldn't, or maybe you should as long as you're willing to back off of it like the topic starter. But yeah, dumb ideas are dumb ideas and that little editor in your brain that occasionally says "the fuck? No, that is not a good idea" is most often times your friend.

Pffft.

I can make dismissive noises too, but it does nothing to make my points sound any better :)

I think it's quite possible that all viruses are created by the governments, not the governments intentionally making them in lives, but rather, the type of society and economy that they produce, things on a massive scale.

You mean like having massive populations clustered into small areas? Well, yeah, you don't have to think that one, it's fact. History has shown that once somebody in a major population center gets ill with something viral, they are going to spread it because of the nature of viruses. Black Plague is a perfect example.

Shit is bound to go wrong when you are doing things in such a way.

But what's the alternative? Human beings are social creatures, we need some form of contact with each other to survive as a species. We tend towards community and grouping. So yeah, this is the price we pay. But that is in no way the same as the government purposely creating a virus that gets released into the population, again, on purpose.

quick comment on group controlling the world- have you ever looked at the masonic lodge? If a group is controlling the world, it's them.

At 6/14/09 01:28 AM, aviewaskewed wrote:
No, you really shouldn't, or maybe you should as long as you're willing to back off of it like the topic starter

But he started it, it's a thought. I've had this thought. Viruses are unnatural fucknodes, don't you ever wonder where they actually come from? We don't even really know how they are formed. We got hypothesis. (wooh wiki!)

I am no expert, so feel free to correct me on this.

But yeah, dumb ideas are dumb ideas and that little editor in your brain that occasionally says "the fuck? No, that is not a good idea" is most often times your friend.

I can make dismissive noises too, but it does nothing to make my points sound any better :)

Wasn't making my point stronger, was illustrating my thoughts about you.

Black Plague is a perfect example.

So sad there haven't been any as effective since then.

But what's the alternative?

Research it. There are many theories on how we can beat such urban sprawl and urban cramping (yeah that last one is a madeup term).

Human beings are social creatures, we need some form of contact with each other to survive as a

species.

Key word some.

We tend towards community and grouping. So yeah, this is the price we pay.

No this is not the price we pay for grouping, this is the price we pay for doing it horribly.

But that is in no way the same as the government purposely creating a virus that gets released into the population, again, on purpose.

There was a story, from the bible, about a rich man who did not feed his scraps to a starving man at his gate. He fed them to the dog, and the man died. At his judgement when he found out he was going to hell, he protested, "But I did nothing." The response was more or less, "Exactly."

I know. I'm exaggerating.

At 6/14/09 07:44 PM, JackPhantasm wrote: But he started it, it's a thought. I've had this thought. Viruses are unnatural fucknodes, don't you ever wonder where they actually come from? We don't even really know how they are formed. We got hypothesis. (wooh wiki!)

Well, wiki has proven in the past to also not be written by experts. ;)

Also we've had disease and viruses for 100's of years, well before we had governments with the technologies to engineer them, and even in cases where we have done research on it, it's not so much creating something new from scratch as it is reverse engineering something already extant to make it even more virulent and deadly.

Wasn't making my point stronger, was illustrating my thoughts about you.

Oh, that helped loads too. :)

So sad there haven't been any as effective since then.

Are you saying you'd like to see human populations wiped out on a mass scale? Wow.

Key word some.

As in some AREN'T. Sorry if that's what you were agreeing with, it just seemed like you weren't.

There was a story, from the bible, about a rich man who did not feed his scraps to a starving man at his gate. He fed them to the dog, and the man died. At his judgement when he found out he was going to hell, he protested, "But I did nothing." The response was more or less, "Exactly."

What does this have to do with the government making viruses to kill us?

I know. I'm exaggerating.

No, you're not making sense to me after that last bit.

At 6/15/09 12:54 AM, aviewaskewed wrote:
Also we've had disease and viruses for 100's of years, well before we had governments with the technologies to engineer them, and even in cases where we have done research on it, it's not so much creating something new from scratch as it is reverse engineering something already extant to make it even more virulent and deadly.

I was really hoping this would turn into a talk about viruses and where they come from in general. i'm not crazy. Well, okay, I at least don't think governments made viruses. As you said, impossible.

I want to talk about you know, the interesting parts of this topic? Where do viruses come from? Are they actually having something to do with origins of life? etc

Oh, that helped loads too. :)

oh yeah baby :)

Are you saying you'd like to see human populations wiped out on a mass scale? Wow.

Are you saying you'd like to see human populations starve on a mass scale? They already are. Viruses are sweet relief.

As in some AREN'T. Sorry if that's what you were agreeing with, it just seemed like you weren't.

What, some people aren't in social contact? Wouldn't that argue for my point? Well actually. Now that you mention it. Don't you think this clustering has a negative effect on this group mentality? Don't you think we're reaching an overload? I don't know about you, but no matter how many times I smile and wave at a passerby I get "get the fuck away from me" looks.

What I mean to say is, I think that too dense a population can have a negative social effect rather than a positive one. Of course, everyone's different. Some people like it.

I DON'T >: D

What does this have to do with the government making viruses to kill us?

That they did nothing to prevent it. Which is why I said

I know. I'm exaggerating.

Sorry.

At 6/15/09 01:05 AM, JackPhantasm wrote: I was really hoping this would turn into a talk about viruses and where they come from in general. i'm not crazy. Well, okay, I at least don't think governments made viruses. As you said, impossible.

You should make a thread about it then. Because this thread is really more about the theory the op came up with (and he's long gone).

I want to talk about you know, the interesting parts of this topic? Where do viruses come from? Are they actually having something to do with origins of life? etc

As I said above, want to talk about that? Then make a thread encouraging it. That's not really what this thread was started for.

Are you saying you'd like to see human populations starve on a mass scale? They already are. Viruses are sweet relief.

Or you know, maybe we could get some ACTUAL relief going instead of saying "dying horribly is relief from living horribly". I don't accept that as a reasonable or good solution. There are other ways to combat the problem. You called on me to do some research on urban sprawl, I now call on you to do some research on this before claiming letting people be killed by disease is an acceptable form of relieving the problem.

What, some people aren't in social contact? Wouldn't that argue for my point? Well actually. Now that you mention it. Don't you think this clustering has a negative effect on this group mentality? Don't you think we're reaching an overload? I don't know about you, but no matter how many times I smile and wave at a passerby I get "get the fuck away from me" looks.

That's because we've now become conditioned to not reach out. Not to trust, to be suspicious of those we don't know because of things like serial killers, rapists, and other deviants. Deviants who's problems stem from how they're brain tends to be wired by their upbringing and other more internal factors. The problem when it comes to this is the media, while it is their duty to inform us these types of people exist and we should be careful, they tend to actually sensationalize it and feed the fear of attack and problems. That's not a situation where society has failed, that's a situation where the media has failed in it's role.

What I mean to say is, I think that too dense a population can have a negative social effect rather than a positive one. Of course, everyone's different. Some people like it.

They must, or else they wouldn't allow themselves to enter into a situation where they're densely populated together, but again, we are wired for social contact as a species.

I DON'T >: D

Well that's your personal preference. Nothing wrong with it. But don't confuse what is your personal feelings on the subject with the larger species and how they tend to be wired internally, and socialized externally.

That they did nothing to prevent it. Which is why I said

Not the same thing, and also government funding IS given to scientists to try and find cures for diseases. That's about the best the government can do. It's not like you can stick senators or the president right there in the lab working side by side with the scientists to get cures found. If you don't have the knowledge and the training to do that job, you'd just be in the way.

I don't need to do research to know for a fact that we have enough land to feed like the whole world. Go subsidized farming! Am I correct in that or should I do more research?

I think densely populated areas would benefit from MORE SKYSCRAPERS. More skyscrapers = less buildings and more open spaces. Need more parks.

For instance I do believe, while their genetic diseases are horrible, the amish have very good mental health.

Humans are social creatures in the way that any animal is. It doesn't mean they're meant to be stacked on top of each other by the millions. I know, that's what the skyscrapers would do. But I really don't see an alternative.

Unless you want to build space stations and terraform mars. I guess I should make a new topic about how the reformating of city setups can reduce disease and death.

At 6/14/09 05:46 PM, reaperparadox wrote: quick comment on group controlling the world- have you ever looked at the masonic lodge? If a group is controlling the world, it's them.

Freemasons are not controlling the world. Freemasons are a fraternity of thinking people that seeks the truth. Unfortunetely some bad people have infiltrated them to use it's network and to compromise their way of thinking.

Swine Flu is bullshit, it has been created, it's not natural, it had been not only proved, but also declared by official, so how can people doubt that ???

wow, and did you know that the government also made up that there is a country in iraq? they really are just sending soldiers to new mexico, were they relax, but to make sure that we, the people who are all so lied to, dont get suspicious, they cut off some soldiers limbs, or shoot them! god, I can't believe people honestly think that everything is "a conspiriousy, man" I mean really, what, are you the same kind of people who think that the U.S. blew up the twin towers? or that the U.S. is hiding area 51 in new mexico, were they have three dead aliens that were captured from a crash site? what ever you are smoking, stop it, and get some common since.

Two problems:

1. Swine flu started out in mexico before the USA even had acknowledged it. It was only when it spread to the USA when we started worrying.
2. It's a physical illness. I know someone who has swine flu. Maybe i'll just phone them and say that they don't have anything and the government made it up?

At 6/6/09 11:30 PM, Dawnslayer wrote: It could be true. Then again, it's also claimed (and proven?) that the government dumped something in the air over San Francisco in the mid-eighties, just to see what would happen. So did they make up swine flu, or did they make swine flu?

(Or are we just shooting the shit?)

wtf? swine flu started in Mexico. :o

At 6/6/09 03:48 PM, SevenSeize wrote:

At 6/6/09 03:47 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:

At 6/6/09 03:43 PM, SevenSeize wrote: Swine flu caused 9/11.

Or did 9/11 cause swine flu?

Ask George Bush since he's behind both.

why does everyone constantly bag on bush. i'll admit he did do some stuff i wasn't a fan of but he also did some good stuff.

At 7/18/09 02:39 AM, nehemiah135 wrote:

At 6/6/09 03:48 PM, SevenSeize wrote:

At 6/6/09 03:47 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:

At 6/6/09 03:43 PM, SevenSeize wrote: Swine flu caused 9/11.

Or did 9/11 cause swine flu?

Ask George Bush since he's behind both.

why does everyone constantly bag on bush. i'll admit he did do some stuff i wasn't a fan of but he also did some good stuff.

Why so serious?

Personally I believe Bush was responsible for "Super AIDS"

At 7/18/09 02:39 AM, nehemiah135 wrote: why does everyone constantly bag on bush. i'll admit he did do some stuff i wasn't a fan of but he also did some good stuff.

In today's world of cynicalness don't hold your breath.

At 7/18/09 02:39 AM, nehemiah135 wrote:

At 6/6/09 03:48 PM, SevenSeize wrote:

At 6/6/09 03:47 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:

At 6/6/09 03:43 PM, SevenSeize wrote: Swine flu caused 9/11.

Or did 9/11 cause swine flu?

Ask George Bush since he's behind both.

why does everyone constantly bag on bush. i'll admit he did do some stuff i wasn't a fan of but he also did some good stuff.

I think the US government has a time machine and Bush went back to the 30s and disguised himself as Hitler to start WW II.

Seriously, Bush was another president just as good as all the rest, but since modern time allows people to question everything and to think freely, people are constantly ripping on him.

Also, the same modern time allows people to think of wacky conspiracies and to propagate their nonsense.

Yeah... The death toll is incredibly tiny in our cities. The administration isn't doing anything because as long as you don't roll around in pig crap, you won't get N1H1 and we have more important things to do... Like solving the economic crisis

It's actually affecting people in towns that we live in like people on this website? This is serious!