The Drumset - Perhaps an art!

[SourPuddle]

The drumset consists of three main parts. The snare drum, the bass drum and the cymbal. Although it may be argued that there are more parts to it, or less, we will continue believing that those three are main the main parts of the drumset.

The Snare

The Snare drum gets it's sound by the metal strings at the bottom of it's drum. They press on the drum, and when you hit the correct side it makes a high pitch noise. The snare drum indicates the second beat in the traditional method of playing the drumset, and usually comes after (or before) a series of bass beats. In Jazz and Blues it's often touched with brushes, though in Alternative and Metal it's hit with concert sticks. It is a single percussion instrument in classical music; it presents fast, high pitched percussive noises that can be rather abrupt and loud.

Rolling comes in two techniques;
The Bass

The Bass drum gives off a low sound because of how large it is. Though favoured in Techno and other synthetic genres due to it's loud beats, it is also used by almost all forms of music. Synth-like music (Techno, Rap, Hip-hop, etc) sometimes have a continued beat that matches the tempo, but in Jazz it is scarcely used in some cases; a paradox of this would be Death Metal and Progressive Metal which seem to favour the double bass. Marching music is nothing without a bass drum, in most cases.

(Subsection) Double Bass

The double bass drum may consist of two large drums that are used by both feet, although there are some who have one drum with two pedals; both mallets hit on the one drum. There are several techniques to this style of playing, but unfortunately some have stooped to the level of using 'triggers' which is argueable around if it's cheating or not.

What do you guys think?

Here are the sections I want to work on for later.

The Cymbal
-The Ride
-The Crash
-The Splash
-The Hi-hat
-The Stacked
-The Cymbal Catch

The Stick
-The Fulcrum
-Rolling

[Kaizerwolf]

You sir, know your stuff well! As a drummer myself, i know a lot about the set and what to do with it.

Very well done!

[loansindi]

Your descriptions are a bit vague, and obviously you've covered very little actual information.

It might be helpful once it's fleshed out into a useful volume of information, but as it is... it's more or less pointless.

[vanguard182]

no mention of toms at all?

[RedHatCore]

At 6/4/09 11:40 PM, vanguard182 wrote: no mention of toms at all?

Toms are probably the least used, and least important; however, they are used a bit more (I hope) than the splash cymbal, so it would make sense to cover toms beforehand.

[PERVOK]

This has what to do about playing a drumset?

[TheNossinator]

At 6/5/09 01:48 AM, RedHatCore wrote:

At 6/4/09 11:40 PM, vanguard182 wrote: no mention of toms at all?

Toms are probably the least used, and least important...

*Cough.* *Cough.*

[vanguard182]

At 6/5/09 01:48 AM, RedHatCore wrote:

Toms are probably the least used, and least important; however, they are used a bit more (I hope) than the splash cymbal, so it would make sense to cover toms beforehand.

so you agree toms should have been mentioned? also most sets, at the least, include a bass, snare, floor tom and hi hat. toms are a very widely featured part of a drum set, especially in rock

[Khuskan]

Drummers: Playing too loudly and never shutting up to let the musicians talk at rehearsals since 1961.

[FairSquare]

At 6/5/09 06:03 AM, Khuskan wrote: Drummers: Playing too loudly and never shutting up to let the musicians talk at rehearsals since 1961.

Drumming: Too awesome for you since *insert date of birth here*.

[SourPuddle]

Toms are more accessories, like a cowbell or a brake drum. I can throw them in as well if you'd like, but I want to get some more of the basics down.

I'll post some new stuff soon, I forgot that you can't edit on Newgrounds forums. I'll have to collaborate it all together. Feel free to write more useful information about the instrument, I'll tell you if I'll include it or not.

After I get the instruments themselves down, I'll try to muster a few techniques (like rolling with one hand, advanced bass beats) and I'll make a few videos on how to do them.

[Psil0]

It depends on the genre, in rock, metal, and jazz the toms have more application than as an "accessory" where as in electronic music its the opposite.

[SourPuddle]

At 6/6/09 05:44 PM, Nosferatu-of-Worms wrote: It depends on the genre, in rock, metal, and jazz the toms have more application than as an "accessory" where as in electronic music its the opposite.

Well, you need to think of what is necessary to make the traditional method of the music, which is generally 'snare, bass, snare, bass' at the tempo, with the cymbal accompanying it. But that makes you think that you wouldn't need the cymbal, which is why it is argueable.

[bobsmovie]

I can't see any argument that toms are an accessory to a drum kit... nobody who's played a drum kit would argue that. You can do about a 1000 fills with just two or three toms... try doing that many with a cowbell.

[loansindi]

At 6/7/09 01:42 PM, bobsmovie wrote: I can't see any argument that toms are an accessory to a drum kit... nobody who's played a drum kit would argue that. You can do about a 1000 fills with just two or three toms... try doing that many with a cowbell.

Right?

Drummer who's got a snare and bass drum is gonna get real boring real quick.

[Nitr0gen]

Right?

Drummer who's got a snare and bass drum is gonna get real boring real quick.

yeah unless they're playing in the 1950's lol. Agreed brother x

[SourPuddle]

At 6/7/09 02:27 PM, loansindi wrote:

At 6/7/09 01:42 PM, bobsmovie wrote: I can't see any argument that toms are an accessory to a drum kit... nobody who's played a drum kit would argue that. You can do about a 1000 fills with just two or three toms... try doing that many with a cowbell.

Right?

Drummer who's got a snare and bass drum is gonna get real boring real quick.

Is that a bet, my brother? I have a casset full of jazz/swing drum solos that were only really four or three set drums. It's too amazing to describe.

Otherwise, fills aren't exactly neccessary, although they are nice. The reason why they are accessories are because they're purely for fills and solos, rather then for the beat. You see what I mean?

The Hi-Hat

The Hi-Hat is a cymbal that closes and opens; it doesn't (usually) make a loud noise when you supress it, and it's also used to coordinate the tempo in Jazz and Blues. In rock music, it's sometimes hit while it's open, creating a clashing sound. It's also hit with the drumset while it's supressed, and it makes a dampened cymbal noise. In a lot of progressive music, sometimes the hi-hat is struck with a stick, and then catched with the foot (when you press down the pedal to supress it, of course). If there's any cymbal on your drumset, the Hi-Hat is a must; it has a myraid amount of purposes:

-It can be struck when supressed, making a dampened noise. (This is the Hi-Hats unique purpose.)
-It can be struck when not supressed, making a crashing noise (Perhaps a crash cymbal replacement.)
-It can also be adjusted to enact as a ride cymbal.

Any questions? To make us all happy, I'll even add in the Toms. We really shouldn't be argueing over this; instead, we should try to help eachother out. Remember, if you want to make a guide yourself, feel free to post here and I'll judge if it makes the cut. No one will waste my time in doing so.

[btriangle]

What about bongos??

[SymbolCymbal]

this entire thread makes no sense to me whatsoever

[LightKeeper]

Tool is one of those bands that really shows how toms can be used to form a bet. I think you're giving them less credit then they deserve. It's all about the drummer and how the drummer uses their equipment. Besides, I wouldn't look at this from a 1950's perspective. Nobody drums like a 1950's drummer anymore, the drum set has progressed with drumming.

[SymbolCymbal]

i love how everyone states their opinions as facts about drumming.. im not touching this thread anymore..

[nathanallenpinard]

Excuse me but...the hi-hat is the 3rd element, not the cymbal.

Also, the bass drum is used in jazz a lot more than you think. The difference is that the jazz bass drum is not as deep. It's more hollow sounding.

[SourPuddle]

At 6/11/09 07:13 PM, nathanallenpinard wrote: Excuse me but...the hi-hat is the 3rd element, not the cymbal.

Also, the bass drum is used in jazz a lot more than you think. The difference is that the jazz bass drum is not as deep. It's more hollow sounding.

Opposed to lets say, metal, it's used rather scarcely, though. And I couldn't agree more about it being the third element, so I'll probably change that.

Guys, I know this is newgrounds and all, but be respectful. Anyone can be wrong, and that means you and me.

LightKeeper, that's a very rude thing to say seeing how we drum today originated from the 1950's (Or atleast for Drum Sets). There are still people who like swing and jazz, just not as much as the people who like the newer kinds of music. Nonetheless, I am including toms in due time.

Hehe, with the bongo's, I'm actually pretty oblivious. You have to hit it fast so you don't muffle the sound? I mean, I can't say I know everything, so if someone can write up around bongos, I'd be more then happy to add it to the collection.

Also, if anyone needs examples, PM me and I'll link you something from YouTube or something. If there isn't any that explain the method, then I'll make my own video to show you guys.

Drum Solo Technique: Tapping

Tapping is rolling on preferably the snare drum while hitting toms or cymbals-- it's perfected once it sounds as if your hand never left the snare drum when you go to tap. Cymbal traps and tapping down toms are a popular method and are advised.

Instructions for Tapping; Sit down, of course. Roll on the snare and hit the tom-- after you hit it, immediatly come back and roll on the snare. There are some other ways to do it, but this is nice to start off with.