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At 10/7/09 09:29 PM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote:

My theory on that is that the majority of the users, at least from what I've seen, making threads are newer, younger, and/or less serious users that make threads because they want to laugh.

See, that would be fine with me if the threads were actually humorous. But, most of the time, they are not. Most threads do not make me laugh at all. This was not always the case. Most threads that people make nowadays that are made with the intention of being humorous and fail at a higher rate than they used to.

At 10/7/09 09:57 PM, Luxury-Yacht wrote: See, that would be fine with me if the threads were actually humorous. But, most of the time, they are not. Most threads do not make me laugh at all. This was not always the case. Most threads that people make nowadays that are made with the intention of being humorous and fail at a higher rate than they used to.

I think your sense of humor is just changing. I don't really think the amount of humor on these forums has decreased in the last three years. What was it, 06, early 07 when they when they just started banning for "rape her?" I don't know what it was like in 03, but if it hasn't change that much from 03 to 06, it hasn't changed much at all.

At 10/7/09 08:31 PM, Mendou wrote: I think a lot of the problems with this forum come from the fact that the users on here care too much about absolutely nothing.

Oh yeah, definitely. Actually, one thing I tend to be quite worried about (for realz) is that people might see me as a cold, crabby, maybe a little cantankerous at times; the Internet definition of "serious" basically. I honestly don't want to look that way - I wouldn't be pleased with myself if it was true to me.

Well, less pleased than I am now ;)

Anyway, yeah. My mind goes back to something DumbassDude once said, something along the lines of "Sure Scarab makes long posts, but he makes no effort to have a conversation." That got me down. Hopefully I've become more normal since then while just sticking to what interests me. I like to be helpful too - self-satisfaction and all that.

I think my previous post here works along the same lines as your comments. Hypocritical humour on my part? Well, that's up to everyone else, haha.

At 10/7/09 09:08 PM, Luxury-Yacht wrote: I'm going to be honest right now, and maybe a bit off because I'm doing shots of Bacardi 151 and chasing with Sierra Mist.

Oh dear, alcohol and this thread do not mix well together.

Scratch that, alcohol and the BBS don't mix well together!

If there is something that has been lacking in the forums as of late, I'd say that it would be genuine intellectual/thoughtful discussion topics and people willing to discuss them. Seriously, very few topics nowadays are really stimulating. The only threads that seem to elicit a response that includes any amount of insight and thought are fucking personal advice threads, and those don't count because you can get that shit anywhere.

Maybe I'm just getting older and it takes more for me to take interest in something, but God damn, there are just so many topics around that don't interest me at all. I can't even tel you how many times I've gone into a topic and pressed the reply button only to go back a page on my browser after realizing that what I was about to say contributed nothing overall because the topic wasn't worth replying to.

I know what you mean, though I'm never sure how to define a stimulating thread. I tend to read through things I lot more than getting actually involved with a discussion, but I quite often enjoy myself anyway. I find myself learning a surprising amount around the BBS, whether it's just a bit of trivia or it's a recommendation (like, someone says "I enjoy Jack Kerouac's books, does anyone have any recommendations? And I say to myself, "I like Jack Kerouac too, better check out those recommendations!") or from something much "deeper". I've found that even arguments give away an amount of understanding to a passing reader... but maybe I'm going a bit too far with that one. I don't condone random arguments for the sake of some form of education!

I've found that really looking into your own interests helps. I call them my "hot topics". I may read more than I post here, but if one of my hot topics pops up, it's fairly likely I'll wear the keyboard out in what's probably some sort of rant. For me it's film, education, sociology, literature, and the pop culture reference here and there for laffs. I try where I can to come up with something that someone might find interesting, and I find myself clicking back partway through a reply sometimes... but oddly enough this is because I start thinking, "You're not giving anything new to this thread are you?", at which point I just shrug and carry on, ready for another wacky adventure.

As for humour on the BBS, I honestly do find the place more amusing in various ways than I let on to. Granted, a considerable amount of the ideas people come up with are dated or they don't appeal to me, but I have laughed at loud at many, many threads and individual posts over the years. I still do, regularly, but you know, this is a tricky thing, opinions on technique, etc. Comma. Humour can be filed under "the arts", so the same characteristics apply! I totally understand what you mean though, I'm just rambling.

I've sort of gone off the point of the thread by just discussing random things that Luxury-Yacht has brought up, but I've taken the title literally. Also, I'm bored.

I just want to let the userbase whose currently sucking mod dick know if this is the way they like thier mods then this is partially self inflicted

the quoted text is edited
it origianally contained constructive critisism for jamokes methods

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1113 151

sigh mods and photoshop threads

At 10/12/09 07:32 PM, naronic wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1113 151

sigh mods and photoshop threads

You're not discussing the BBS anymore, you're just whining about mods. And there's not much you can do about them locking and banning.

If you guys degrade this glorious thread into a "bitch about a mods specific action" without including at least 15 paragraphs (a la scarab). Then I'm going to be forced to lock this thread... :(

At 10/12/09 07:37 PM, EyeLovePoozy wrote: If you guys degrade this glorious thread into a "bitch about a mods specific action" without including at least 15 paragraphs (a la scarab). Then I'm going to be forced to lock this thread... :(

Why did my photoshop threads get locked?
can you explain that in at least 15 para's?

At 10/12/09 07:38 PM, naronic wrote:

At 10/12/09 07:37 PM, EyeLovePoozy wrote: If you guys degrade this glorious thread into a "bitch about a mods specific action" without including at least 15 paragraphs (a la scarab). Then I'm going to be forced to lock this thread... :(

Why did my photoshop threads get locked?
can you explain that in at least 15 para's?

Because in our qualified opinion, it sucked. To be honest, if it was me that administrated those threads, I would have deleted them outright. My point was that you shouldn't be addressing this "concern" of yours via this thread. A mod locked your shitty thread? Ask him/her/it about it via PM.

Why don't you do so and appreciate the fact that you aren't banned yet?

Why have some very popular threads such as the Rage's Gift to You, Abusive Reviews! and Scariest Masturbation Moments threads get locked? It seemed like they were good threads that people kept posting and contributing good, post-worthy information into.

At 10/12/09 07:47 PM, JKMonkey wrote: It seemed like they were good threads that people kept posting and contributing good, post-worthy information into.

Perception isn't reality.

Why have some very popular threads such as the Rage's Gift to You, Abusive Reviews! and Scariest Masturbation Moments threads get locked?

A: no longer serving it's intended purpose (ie: whistle-happy noobs flagging stuff that's not abusive, then crying about their garbage whistle) B: Any topic about masturbation is automatically too immature and idiotic to be tolerated. Not to mention it was a glorified story thread interspersed with 'lol'.

At 10/12/09 07:47 PM, JKMonkey wrote: Why have some very popular threads such as the Rage's Gift to You, Abusive Reviews!

It was being abused by users who didn't know what they were talking about and it was only creating more busy work for the moderators who were actually in charge of the reviews, and that's all you really need to know about that. Multiple mods tried to fix the problem, and I locked it after a consensus was come to by all of the Review Mods and all of the BBS mods. </end>

Scariest Masturbation Moments

I didn't lock that one, but yeah, that thread was always an eyesore. Don't know who or why, but I can't say I'm sad either from a purely reg's perspective.

At 10/12/09 07:43 PM, EyeLovePoozy wrote:

Because in our qualified opinion, it sucked.

k
I'm sure that's a BBS rule
"DONT MAK UR THRED SUK TO TEH MOHDZ"

:My point was that you shouldn't be addressing this "concern" of yours via this thread.

I thought that's what this thread was about.
ADDRESSING WHAT THE MODS COULD DO BETTER

:A mod locked your awsome thread? Ask him/her/it about it via PM.

fix'd it 4 you
also I cant address problems with the mods without them editing my text and acting like a douche
hence the Jamoke incident about 9 posts above

you'll probably just ignore and delete this post but this forum won't get any better

At 10/12/09 07:55 PM, naronic wrote: you'll probably just ignore and delete this post but this forum won't get any better

Actually I wont ignore it. I shall now ban you since you are too dense to see past your butthurt.

Here's a week.
I AGAIN suggest you hammer out any differences that made you start this nonsense privately.

MOZZLETOFF

Just don't act as fucking retarded as the GameFAQs admins, and I think shit should be good man.

I already talked about Photoshop threads earlier and I want to address another type of thread; Expoitable threads.

A few days ago I made a topic with an exploitable image/comic which was deleted. As mad as I was that it was deleted, I moved on and kept it to myself. Now I'm smart enough to not remake the deleted topic in question, but my real inquiries are as follows:

1. What qualifies as a "good" Exploitable thread?

2. What's the main reason such threads are deleted/locked? Would it be the fact people MSPaint cocks like in Photoshop threads and throw out memes like they're about to hit an expiration date?

3. Most importantly, are Exploitable threads even allowed anymore?

Thank you for your time.

At 10/12/09 07:55 PM, naronic wrote: you'll probably just ignore and delete this post but this forum won't get any better

For the health (lol) of this thread alone, you'd probably be doing yourself some favours by not defending your own view as passionately as you were doing just now. Of course, this thread is about things you could possibly alert the mods to (as I have done so in the past in a variety of annoying ways), but there's also an expectation that if you care enough about spending your free time here, you will be civil in what you say. As always, I think we're more intelligent (also polite) than that. You don't even have to be "serious" to make your point, but you're not going to help yourself or anyone else who might have an issue by wording yourself in such a way, if you get me?

I don't always agree with whatever the mods are pressing one week admittedly. Sometimes I've voiced my concerns if I've believed my own experience of the BBS could be imporved, but seriously, it's no good if you're just not willing to listen to everyone. As always, the "us and them" attitude on the BBS is quite possibly one of the worst characteristics of the whole place. There are problems of that on either side, but you can do your part!

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At 10/12/09 08:17 PM, Krbyfan1 wrote: 3. Most importantly, are Exploitable threads even allowed anymore?

no, they really never have been. We discourage users from making threads about pictures they find on the internet, same reason we ask that if you don't have anything worthwhile to ad to a link to some youtube video that you refrain from making a new thread for it.

At 10/12/09 08:20 PM, Malachy wrote:

At 10/12/09 08:17 PM, Krbyfan1 wrote: 3. Most importantly, are Exploitable threads even allowed anymore?

no, they really never have been. We discourage users from making threads about pictures they find on the internet, same reason we ask that if you don't have anything worthwhile to ad to a link to some youtube video that you refrain from making a new thread for it.

I'd like to tack on to this, that generally "exploitable" images have been posted before, and its unlikely that unless you really get something good together and have examples that are of high quality to begin with that it'll end up well.

I love to see a creative thread and I absolutely hate to see them locked when they are around, but generally speaking I can only delete 80% of replies out of so many Photoshop threads a day to keep them interesting. And I do delete a lot of memes and mspaint pictures out of the threads that have promise.

I invite you to be highly original in your photo manipulation topics and to set them up well and with purpose. If you can do so in an organized fashion, with a good example AND good base pic, you're more than likely to have a successful thread.

After all, how many times does Jamoke actually have a photoshop topic locked if he took time to start one before he was modded?

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1113 111 Threads like this are rather numerous and annoying.

At 10/12/09 08:20 PM, Malachy wrote:

At 10/12/09 08:17 PM, Krbyfan1 wrote: 3. Most importantly, are Exploitable threads even allowed anymore?

no, they really never have been. We discourage users from making threads about pictures they find on the internet, same reason we ask that if you don't have anything worthwhile to ad to a link to some youtube video that you refrain from making a new thread for it.

This can be a problem if the person that made the topic got banned for some reason because the banning moderator would sometimes delete any posts that seem overdone and this HAS happened with photoshop threads that had a good start.

At 10/12/09 07:37 PM, EyeLovePoozy wrote: If you guys degrade this glorious thread into a "bitch about a mods specific action" without including at least 15 paragraphs (a la scarab). Then I'm going to be forced to lock this thread... :(

This thread was destined to suffer that fate since the OP hit the post button, time happens to have control over that.

At 10/12/09 08:30 PM, gumOnShoe wrote:

At 10/12/09 08:20 PM, Malachy wrote:

At 10/12/09 08:17 PM, Krbyfan1 wrote: 3. Most importantly, are Exploitable threads even allowed anymore?

no, they really never have been. We discourage users from making threads about pictures they find on the internet, same reason we ask that if you don't have anything worthwhile to ad to a link to some youtube video that you refrain from making a new thread for it.

I was going to reply to this but I needed more information on the topic at hand, but I get the jist of it. Somewhat.

I'd like to tack on to this, that generally "exploitable" images have been posted before, and its unlikely that unless you really get something good together and have examples that are of high quality to begin with that it'll end up well.

The image I provided was from a grapgic novel that was first published in the Mid 1990's, and I found it on a fan site I'm sure few people here knew existed, which led to me making the topic. But I think my first mistake was using Exploit in the title. I also started off with low quality shops, in my opinion and should have started stronger. I guess I should just remove the word "Exploitable" from my vocabulary to avoid such future run ins.

I love to see a creative thread and I absolutely hate to see them locked when they are around, but generally speaking I can only delete 80% of replies out of so many Photoshop threads a day to keep them interesting. And I do delete a lot of memes and mspaint pictures out of the threads that have promise.

Yeah so do I, and I thought I had a good base pic, but apparently not. And I appreciate the effort put towards Keeping It Clean in good topics.

I invite you to be highly original in your photo manipulation topics and to set them up well and with purpose. If you can do so in an organized fashion, with a good example AND good base pic, you're more than likely to have a successful thread.

I actually dragged my heels in making the topic that was deleted, working on at least 10 different variations of the photo, but again I think the whole "Exploit" thing killed it. (The inclusion of Tom Fulp, MSPaint dicks, and Mudkips didn't help.) Or maybe there wasn't much humor to be found. Whatever the case, I thought it was a fun idea, but I must have a skewed idea of what is a good topic sometimes.

After all, how many times does Jamoke actually have a photoshop topic locked if he took time to start one before he was modded?

That's true, but he's good at Photoshopping. And he seems to have such openly manipulated pics. He must see things in photos I don't see.

I actually think the moderators are doing a more careful job than they were a year ago. I remember back in the day (lol) that if someone posted in a thread that was deleted, they were destroy banned without a care. Recently, I've noticed this doesn't happen as much anymore. I think the destroy ban was the only problem I ever saw with mods.

People can say the BBS is dying all the want, but they just don't want to admit that it's our own responsibility to contribute to the forums. I'm not saying we should be able to shit out a super original five-pager every day, but it doesn't mean we're not all capable of witty and intelligent discussion. If you think this place is getting worse, you're not trying hard enough.

At 10/7/09 07:58 PM, EyeLovePoozy wrote:
Settle down and catch the drift before I help you to do so.

Case in point: pussies

He even has it in his name.

At 10/12/09 08:07 PM, EyeLovePoozy wrote:

At 10/12/09 07:55 PM, naronic wrote: you'll probably just ignore and delete this post but this forum won't get any better

Actually I wont ignore it. I shall now ban you since you are too dense to see past your butthurt.

Here's a week.
I AGAIN suggest you hammer out any differences that made you start this nonsense privately.

MOZZLETOFF

no offense, but this is exactly what im talking about with mods, that they need to be a better example, also not everyone needs EXACTLY 7 paragraphs to explain what they're onto. It would be satisfactory to use only whats needed instead of a shitload. I don't think anyone would read that much, so just a 3-4 paragraphs will do.

Also, for idle mods that dont do anything when online, I have asked a couple of them for help, but only to hear the response"Ill mod when I feel like it", that tells me some of them are a little lazy. and should not mod if they are going to act that way, which is as bad as saying workers don't do what they're told, or what some people report to them on the BBS.

I know mods are volunteers, and that they come and go alot, but if they are going to volunteer then they should, instead of just sitting around waving theyre ban options at other people, there are decent regulars and idoits, I'm sure mods can tell between the 2 and make a proper choice.

Also about the photoshop threads ye, there seems to be alot of threads if the same topic or somehow related, not much was done till like an hour later till it was cleaned up, I suggest the mods have a little more response time or accept some reports people get, so they can clean up the mess faster.

God shut the fuck up david.

MODS NEED TO BE MORE STRICT.

FAAAAAAAR MORE.

That is the only true complaint worthy of being considered.

Ban the living hell out of users that think it's funny to recommend bleach and ammonia as a way of getting high. There are people dumb and desperate enough to try it and chlorine gas will most likely cause permanent damage.

I didn't read through the other 650 responses

At 10/13/09 08:37 AM, Davidzx wrote: Also, for idle mods that dont do anything when online, I have asked a couple of them for help, but only to hear the response"Ill mod when I feel like it"

Granted that some mods should respond more maturely, I would like to see some evidence regarding the couple of mods who "mod when they feel like it."

eh, I've learned to disregard all the rules and view it on a moderator by moderator basis. Malachy, for example, is a massive nazi when it comes to the actual rules and any mention of faggot gets a ban, but then there are other mods who will just let it slide. Things like child porn get bans from every moderator (although I'm sure most save it) but the other things, story threads, photoshop threads, saying faggot etc. are massively varied.

That's to be expected though, it's not as if they can all have the same opinion on what is right and wrong.