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At 12/16/05 11:04 PM, -Superman- wrote: Hrm, i'm currently watching the Caps game right now, and well they don't look like the team i saw a few weeks ago... It makes me sad...

Ha, it makes me happy to see that tonight. San Jose extends their win streak to six games, Joe Thornton gets two more points, as well as Scott Thornton.

I'm being a broken record by stating this, but I tell you, The Thornton-Thornton-Cheechoo line is probably the best line in hockey right now.

At 12/16/05 08:00 PM, mighty_potato wrote: Frankly, I'm just shocked.

I completely agree. But yet again, we don't see what happens in the locker rooms, nor all of what happens during practice.

At 12/17/05 02:01 AM, DancingTurkeyGod wrote: I completely agree. But yet again, we don't see what happens in the locker rooms, nor all of what happens during practice.

Oh, no doubt. I also think that while Mario was out, he probably stepped it up in the locker room which is probably playing a large role in this decision. Either that, or they want to try and get fan's attention in Pittsburgh again before the team moves.

hoo boy, It's been killing me to be banned and watch a discussion consisting of more than two posts go on.
Well, tonight the Ducks fell in a shootout to the Kings, which sucks because the Ducks dominated the Kings from the end of the 1st and on.

Garon just stoned the Ducks, making 45 total saves. Jiggy was solid too, except in the shootout where he was rotten.

As for fantasy hockey, I too am having troubles. Although things are on the upswing, I've just surpassed another player and am only a few points behind the now inactive TexasHockey Massacres. The Staal drop was clealry a mistake, but it was my first fantasy league and I still didn't quite grasp eveything, so the drop was immensley foolish. But don't look for any more givaways next season, coop >:)

A big problem for me now is that Labarbera has been pushed to the side since Garon is playing so well. I'll probably swap him for a forward or another goaltender soon.
And another big problem is Kieth Tkatchuk, who carried me past Gooch and Purple Nurple. He broke some knuckles in tonight's game against the Hawks and he'll be out ANOTHER 4-6 weeks.

But I do have Lemiux, who picked up an assist in his first game back and can only improve as the penguins(hopefully) start to win again.

At 12/13/05 02:14 AM, -Gooch- wrote: True. Belfour can be a streaky goaltender at times.

I wouldnt quite put it as streaky. To me that means he has a streak of good games and then a streak of bad. It may seem that wyab ecause that is the way the Leafs are in general, but Belfour himself is more floppy than that. Bad game, good game, bad game, good game kind of thing. He just seems streaky because everyone once and a while someone other than McCabe does something on defense.

As far as Tellqvist's experience, you're right on that, too. He just needs more of it, and he'd be more comfortable carrying the load for Toronto. He just might become the next David Aebischer. Let's just hope he doesn't end up playing like Aebischer's playing this year.

Aebischer stepped it up, and the just lagged off. I see Tellqvist doing good things once he gets some experience (as you said) under his belt. I see him as a tender with HUGE potential. He isnt the next big goaltender, but he will hold his own in the NHL for sure. He just lacks experience, and gets shaky because of it. We have all seen him play very well, and I think most would agree that with experience he can play even better than the best we have seen from him.

At 12/17/05 05:26 AM, Myst_Williams wrote: He just seems streaky because everyone once and a while someone other than McCabe does something on defense.

*He just seems streaky because every once and a while someone other than McCabe does something on defense.*

That typo was more confusing than the others. Thought I'd fix it. I am tired. It is 5:28am. Heh.

At 12/16/05 11:33 AM, -Gooch- wrote: http://www.newground../topic.php?id=395960

Thanks, I've posted my nominations now.

At 12/16/05 08:00 PM, mighty_potato wrote: Sidney Crosby named Alternate Captain of Pittsburgh Penguins

Well, they're just trying to give the team a boost right now. That ansd replacing the head coach might just get them to win some games.

At 12/16/05 08:01 PM, phileeguy wrote: 14 posts and 2+ hours later...

Damn boys... take a breather, let someone else take a shift.

I was bored at work and Gooch was making a decent conversation with me, so it kinda snowballed from there :)

At 12/17/05 03:43 AM, VeryProudofYa wrote: As for fantasy hockey, I too am having troubles. Although things are on the upswing, I've just surpassed another player and am only a few points behind the now inactive TexasHockey Massacres. The Staal drop was clealry a mistake, but it was my first fantasy league and I still didn't quite grasp eveything, so the drop was immensley foolish. But don't look for any more givaways next season, coop >:)

Yeah, I had to swallow my pride myself, dropping Eric Daze for that move. I always said the Daze was underrated. If he had a better team under him, he could come up with the goods. The Hawks gave him a better team and look how he bombed.

I'm going to try to be available for the draft next time, so I can have a good look at the talent out there.

At 12/17/05 05:27 AM, Myst_Williams wrote: *He just seems streaky because every once and a while someone other than McCabe does something on defense.*

A good point made... eventually, Myst.

Oh yeah, I was reading the yahoo power rankings and the Avs getting Jiggy from the ducks was mentioned. I kind of like the thought, because the ducks have Ilya, who is in the top 10 in a few goaltending categories ready to take the reigns, as he did so capably in Jiggy's absence. The next goalie after that? His last name is Wall. Can't go wrong there. ;)

I'd love to see some more offensive talent in anahiem.

At 12/17/05 06:24 AM, VeryProudofYa wrote: Avs getting Jiggy from the ducks was mentioned.

Thankfully, that was mentioned on Yahoo, and not a reputable news source :P

I just started a new season in the game NHL 2K2, and I'm getting some surprising results. I'm playing as the Columbus Blue Jackets, who are rated at around 77 overall, and my first game was an 11-3 win over the St. Louis Blues. My second game was a 2-1 win over the Philadelphia Flyers, but that one was simulated. My third game was a 9-0 win over the Flyers. The difficulty is set at the rookie level, but I don't think that fully explains the blowouts.

Oh man. When you said Crosby got promoted to assistant, I didn't know it was because Michel Therrien was the new coach! The Penguins are screwed now. Seriously. I hated Therrien when he was with the Canadiens. We'd always get penalties because he had such a bad temper.

i dont think the Penguins are screwed,they have young playerthere the team of the future and with the new coach i think they will be a much better team now but it will take time...

At 12/16/05 08:01 PM, phileeguy wrote:

Let me know if any of your teams are this banged up or worse. I doubt it's just a strange coincidence that people are getting hurt more often in this faster pace hockey. I mean there was injuries before the rules changes, but it seemed that in a slower, more defensive style of play people had a greater feeling of when a hit was coming and if they couldn't escape it, they'd prepare themselves for it (excluding the hit on Moore of course).

While I don't think anyone is as bad, the Blues are certainly in trouble. Tkatchuk is going to be out another 2-4 weeks with broken knuckles he suffered in the loss to Chicago. That same game, new goaltender Sanford got a hip flexor. They also added Dallas Drake to ir.

Sorry for the double post, but the thought of posting the injury list didn't crop up until my previous post had gone through.

Anaheim Mighty Ducks
Teemu Selanne RW Dec 16, 2005 Right Eye
Sandis Ozolinsh D Nov 28, 2005 Left Knee

Atlanta Thrashers
Peter Bondra RW Dec 4, 2005 Groin/Abdominal Injury
Steve Shields G Nov 25, 2005 Knee
Mike Dunham G Nov 13, 2005 Groin
Kari Lehtonen G Oct 5, 2005 Groin

Boston Bruins
Nick Boynton D Dec 7, 2005 Fractured Kneecap
Ian Moran D Nov 3, 2005 Knee Injury
Pat Leahy RW Nov 1, 2005 Broken Finger

Buffalo Sabres
Dmitri Kalinin D Dec 14, 2005 Fractured Finger
Taylor Pyatt LW Nov 25, 2005 Fractured Wrist
J.P. Dumont RW Nov 19, 2005 Sports Hernia, 12/8 Surgery

Calgary Flames
No injuries reported

Carolina Hurricanes
Andrew Ladd LW Dec 5, 2005 Torn Meniscus, Right Knee, 12/5 Surgery
Niclas Wallin D Nov 20, 2005 Left Wrist Surgery On 11/19
Josef Vasicek C Nov 12, 2005 Left Knee, 12/5 Surgery

Chicago Blackhawks
Michal Barinka D Dec 16, 2005 Concussion Like Symptoms
Adrian Aucoin D Dec 12, 2005 Sore Groin
Jassen Cullimore D Dec 11, 2005 Pulled Groin
Tuomo Ruutu C Nov 2, 2005 Sore Back
Eric Daze LW Oct 7, 2005 Sore Back

Colorado Avalanche
Steve Konowalchuk LW Nov 27, 2005 Torn Ligament In Right Wrist - Surgery

Columbus Blue Jackets
Manny Malhotra C Dec 9, 2005 Shoulder
Gilbert Brule C Nov 30, 2005 Broken Leg
Alexandre Picard LW Nov 24, 2005 Concussion
Rostislav Klesla D Nov 10, 2005 Broken Hand
Rick Nash LW Nov 6, 2005 Sprained Knee

Dallas Stars
No injuries reported

Detroit Red Wings
Steve Yzerman C Dec 12, 2005 Slight Groin Tear
Manny Legace G Nov 27, 2005 Sprained Left Knee
Jiri Fischer D Nov 22, 2005 Seizure
Niklas Kronwall D Oct 5, 2005 Left Knee Surgery

Edmonton Oilers
No injuries reported

Florida Panthers
Joe Nieuwendyk C Dec 13, 2005 Back

Los Angeles Kings
Ryan Flinn LW Nov 27, 2005 Concussion
George Parros RW Nov 18, 2005 Right Ankle Sprain
Valeri Bure RW Sep 29, 2005 Back Strain, 12/9 Surgery

Minnesota Wild
No injuries reported

Montreal Canadiens
Mark Streit D Dec 13, 2005 Flu
Radek Bonk C Dec 4, 2005 Torn Groin Muscle
Alexei Kovalev RW Nov 14, 2005 Right Knee Surgery, 11/15

Nashville Predators
Chris Mason G Dec 13, 2005 Groin Strain
David Legwand C Dec 10, 2005 Torn Knee Cartilage, 12/12 Surgery
Tomas Vokoun G Dec 10, 2005 Knee Strain
Greg Johnson C Nov 23, 2005 Groin Strain
Scott Nichol C Nov 14, 2005 Broken Foot
Scott Walker RW Oct 25, 2005 Sports Hernia

New Jersey Devils
No injuries reported

New York Islanders
Jason Blake LW Dec 13, 2005 Left Game - Concussion
Shawn Bates C Nov 19, 2005 Strained Hamstring
Petteri Nokelainen C Nov 3, 2005 Patella Tendonitis
New York Rangers

No injuries reported

Ottawa Senators
Martin Havlat LW Nov 30, 2005 Dislocated Right Shoulder, Surgery

Philadelphia Flyers
Donald Brashear LW Dec 11, 2005 Strained Left Shoulder
Eric Desjardins D Dec 7, 2005 Dislocated Right Shoulder, 12/13 Surgery
Joni Pitkanen D Dec 5, 2005 Torn Abdominal Muscle
Ryan Ready LW Nov 30, 2005 Groin
Brian Savage LW Nov 20, 2005 Sprained Right MCL
Keith Primeau C Oct 30, 2005 Concussion

Phoenix Coyotes
Oleg Saprykin LW Dec 11, 2005 Left Game - Knee Sprain

Pittsburgh Penguins
No injuries reported

San Jose Sharks
Scott Parker RW Nov 21, 2005 Concussion

St. Louis Blues
Dallas Drake RW Dec 16, 2005 Lower Back
Curtis Sanford G Dec 16, 2005 Left Game - Hip Flexor
Matt Walker D Dec 12, 2005 Separated Right Shoulder
Petr Cajanek C Dec 5, 2005 Sore Groin
Christian Backman D Dec 3, 2005 Fractured Left Foot
Eric Brewer D Nov 17, 2005 Separated Right Shoulder

Tampa Bay Lightning
No injuries reported

Toronto Maple Leafs
Eric Lindros C Dec 12, 2005 Torn Ligament In Right Wrist

Vancouver Canucks
Dan Cloutier G Nov 21, 2005 ACL Surgery
Tyler Bouck RW Oct 5, 2005 Groin Pull
Washington Capitals
Jeff Friesen LW Nov 11, 2005 Groin

I think The preds are pretty well fucked with both goalies getting hurt.

At 12/17/05 09:11 AM, mr_trivia wrote: The difficulty is set at the rookie level, but I don't think that fully explains the blowouts.

I think It does. From my experience playing hockey games from NHL 2k5 back to the original NES Ice Hockey they usually are high scoring affairs. But when I set the difficulty level higher in the newer versions I see a lot more 3-2 and 2-1 games... usually with me on the losing end.

At 12/17/05 06:21 PM, VeryProudofYa wrote: While I don't think anyone is as bad, the Blues are certainly in trouble.

No doubt. They're pretty banged up as well, but have also dug themselves a big hole.

At 12/17/05 06:25 PM, VeryProudofYa wrote: list
I think The preds are pretty well fucked with both goalies getting hurt.

Maybe, maybe not. I mean sure it'll be a struggle with 2 lost goaltenders, but if they play a sound game with few turnovers and bad penalties they should be able to stay in games. Their Power Play is above average (league-wise), Goals against is respectable and they're 4th on the PK. The defensive numbers are not only a sign of their goaltender, but also the players on the ice with him. Obviously they want to continue that trend, but like I said, it'll be a struggle.

heh, bad news for the Ducks. They're heading into a home and home against the suddenly dominant San Jose. But, the Ducks have been ending streaks as of late. Be it the Grahame's win streak of the kings loss streak.

they'll be in trouble if Selanne can't play, he's DTD after getting a highstick that left a deep gash under his eye in the loss to the kings. But Sykora has picked up his play as of late, so it'll be interestign. I'm expecting a hard hitting game with the likes of Vishnevski and Mclaren on the ice. Not to mention the Ducks' "Energy" line, with tough guy Fedorok, surprisingly tough Zenon Konopka, and newly acquired Tyler Wright, who showed his upper body strength when he flipped a player much larger than he during a fight.

I don't have high hopes on the Ducks winning, but it'll be exciting, that's for sure.

At 12/18/05 02:24 AM, VeryProudofYa wrote:

I don't have high hopes on the Ducks winning, but it'll be exciting, that's for sure.

Sure will be.

I'm kind of surprised that the Ducks and Sharks are the two bottom teams in the Pacific division this year. I really thought Anaheim would have a better team than the past couple of seasons, and we all knew what San Jose was capable of when they made the conference finals in 2003-04. This is pretty much going to be a battle to see who can avoid being at the bottom of the division when all is said and done.

At 12/18/05 02:40 AM, -Gooch- wrote:

At 12/18/05 02:24 AM, VeryProudofYa wrote:

I don't have high hopes on the Ducks winning, but it'll be exciting, that's for sure.

Sure will be.

I'm kind of surprised that the Ducks and Sharks are the two bottom teams in the Pacific division this year. I really thought Anaheim would have a better team than the past couple of seasons, and we all knew what San Jose was capable of when they made the conference finals in 2003-04. This is pretty much going to be a battle to see who can avoid being at the bottom of the division when all is said and done.

Indeed, Especially because they're only two points apart. If the ducks can pull out even a single win they'll maintain the fourth spot. I too expected them to play well. One of the preseason previews of the ducks had them getting into the playoffs for sure. Their young prospects, perry and getzlaf, just weren't ready. But, perry is down with the pirates fucking shit up.The lack of ozolinsh certainly isn't helping either.

The division is now extremely competitive with Phoenix and Anahiem tied with 34 points and San Jose now only trailing by two. The Sharks have played fewer games, I expect them to overtake anahiem pretty soon.

At 12/18/05 02:53 AM, VeryProudofYa wrote:

The division is now extremely competitive with Phoenix and Anahiem tied with 34 points and San Jose now only trailing by two. The Sharks have played fewer games, I expect them to overtake anahiem pretty soon.

I'd hope so. The way everyone on San Jose is playing right now, they should be able to overtake just about anybody, and I'd crazily include Ottawa in that. Joe Thornton's just made everyone else that much better, and I'm definitely pleased with the performance Patrick Marleau has been putting in ever since the trade.

I'm glad that the #1 and #2 picks in the 1997 NHL Draft are both on my team. You really can't ask for anything better.

At 12/18/05 02:58 AM, -Gooch- wrote:

At 12/18/05 02:53 AM, VeryProudofYa wrote:

The division is now extremely competitive with Phoenix and Anahiem tied with 34 points and San Jose now only trailing by two. The Sharks have played fewer games, I expect them to overtake anahiem pretty soon.

I'd hope so. The way everyone on San Jose is playing right now, they should be able to overtake just about anybody, and I'd crazily include Ottawa in that. Joe Thornton's just made everyone else that much better, and I'm definitely pleased with the performance Patrick Marleau has been putting in ever since the trade.

I wouldn't go that far, Ottawa reaffirmed their dominance with a crushing victory over Toronto. Causing area pizza companies everywhere to weep. As you may or may not know, ottawa made a deal with the pizza companies to give free pizzas to any fan who had a ticket to a home game in which the sens got 5 goals or more.

HUGE MISTAKE. A lot of the areas were looking at bankruptcy into november, as the promotion horribly backfired. They stepped it up to 6 goals, and the sens are rising to the occasion. If they keep on this pace, Pizzarias look to lose $160 dollars, Not sure if that's american or not, but still.

Kind of went off track there, but as much as I enjoy San Jose, the good times can't roll forever. The trade shook things up, sure, but in time the players will settle in and the explosive wins will become a little less impressive. That said, I do think they'll make the playoffs.

I'm glad that the #1 and #2 picks in the 1997 NHL Draft are both on my team. You really can't ask for anything better.

At 12/18/05 03:05 AM, VeryProudofYa wrote:

I wouldn't go that far, Ottawa reaffirmed their dominance with a crushing victory over Toronto. Causing area pizza companies everywhere to weep. As you may or may not know, ottawa made a deal with the pizza companies to give free pizzas to any fan who had a ticket to a home game in which the sens got 5 goals or more.

HUGE MISTAKE. A lot of the areas were looking at bankruptcy into november, as the promotion horribly backfired. They stepped it up to 6 goals, and the sens are rising to the occasion. If they keep on this pace, Pizzarias look to lose $160 dollars, Not sure if that's american or not, but still.

Damn, man. I remember hearing about that. I didn't know that the pizza businesses were looking at bankruptcy, though. When you have an explosive team like Ottawa, anything's possible, though. Hell, they scored another eight goals at home tonight in their thrashing of Toronto tonight.

Kind of went off track there, but as much as I enjoy San Jose, the good times can't roll forever. The trade shook things up, sure, but in time the players will settle in and the explosive wins will become a little less impressive. That said, I do think they'll make the playoffs.

I'm pretty sure they will too, barring any other mishaps they might have, such as an injury to a key player. With the way the roster is, I think you'll find better consistency in winning, and more consistency amongst the players scoring-wise.

Then again, they still could make a run like Ottawa has been all season long. We'll just have to wait and see.

Sorry for abandoning you guys, I haven't been a big hockey person since bertuzzi fucked up. But I'm back, This may be old, but the pittsburgh coach was fired. With all the great players they got it's funny how they lost their 1st seven games.

At 12/18/05 04:20 AM, TheBoneThug wrote: Sorry for abandoning you guys, I haven't been a big hockey person since bertuzzi fucked up. But I'm back, This may be old, but the pittsburgh coach was fired. With all the great players they got it's funny how they lost their 1st seven games.

It's because they didn't listen to Eddy. In the last 14 games the pens had last year he had his grinders out there, and he went 10-2-2 or something similar. But then they went out and bought all this talent he didn't want. The only player he did request, Joseph, was denied. They said, "You've got thibault". Well, Thibault is sucking some ass and Joseph is making Gretzky look like bowman.
A few people were a little perturbed about Crosby's statement after the caoch was fired. Most players say, "Oh, he was a good coach, things didn't work out" etc
Crosby said "It was time for change" True as it may have been, I'm not sure poor ed was the one who should have been changed.

It's really too bad, but you've got to move on.

Oh yeah, what are your guys' takes on another bright rookie, Petr Prucha. Since getting teamed up with Jagr both even strength and on the power play, he's become a force. He quickly leapt up in the rookie standings, now only trailing Svatos of the avs and Ovechkin for goals scored. He'll meet svatos tomorrow, in New York.

At 12/17/05 11:09 PM, phileeguy wrote:

At 12/17/05 09:11 AM, mr_trivia wrote: The difficulty is set at the rookie level, but I don't think that fully explains the blowouts.

I think It does. From my experience playing hockey games from NHL 2k5 back to the original NES Ice Hockey they usually are high scoring affairs. But when I set the difficulty level higher in the newer versions I see a lot more 3-2 and 2-1 games... usually with me on the losing end.

Then why am I so often knocked flat on my ass the instant I get the puck? If this happens about once every three possessions on the Rookie level, then surely switching to Veteran (not to mention All-Star) level would increase it to thrice every four or five possessions. I suppose I shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth, so I'll just finish my first season on Rookie level and lead the entire league in goals.
I have to admit, NHL 2K2 for the Sega Dreamcast is a much fairer game than NHL Faceoff 2000 for the PS One. I'm actually getting power plays now (too bad I haven't been able to score on them), and I'm not called for a bogus penalty every five minutes.

At 12/18/05 05:10 AM, VeryProudofYa wrote: Oh yeah, what are your guys' takes on another bright rookie, Petr Prucha. Since getting teamed up with Jagr both even strength and on the power play, he's become a force. He quickly leapt up in the rookie standings, now only trailing Svatos of the avs and Ovechkin for goals scored. He'll meet svatos tomorrow, in New York.

I knew I should've picked up on Prucha when I had the chance. He's been doing a tremendous job so far in New York, especially as of late. He definitely shows a lot of potential to be one of the better hockey players in the league in the future. However, I think that he's going to be one of those cases where he has to stay motivated and not get down on himself to succeed.

that has to have been, without a doubt, one of, if not the best game the entire season. The teams were just trading blows, both offensively and physically. The Ducks never trailed in the game, and San Jose never lead. Although, San Jose was never trailing by more than 2 goals at any point. Anahiem grabbed the lead 5 different times throughout the night. It was a highscoring game, loaded with hits.

By the by, I think kneeing should be more than a minor penalty, cheechoo looked like he was trying to hurt Lupul when he through his knee into Joffrey.
But, the Ducks got it back when a shot knocked down by Rob Niedermayer was ruled legal. Which, to me, seemed that it was. Since it was flagged a goal on the ice, and the evidence just wasn't clear enough to turn it over.

At 12/18/05 10:32 PM, VeryProudofYa wrote: that has to have been, without a doubt, one of, if not the best game the entire season. The teams were just trading blows, both offensively and physically. The Ducks never trailed in the game, and San Jose never lead. Although, San Jose was never trailing by more than 2 goals at any point. Anahiem grabbed the lead 5 different times throughout the night. It was a highscoring game, loaded with hits.

I'd say they were trading blows. After Scott Thornton tied it up, I was expecting something not to go San Jose's way, and I was right. Anaheim gets a goal not long after that, and they take the lead. I was really hoping that after Marchant was called for that penalty late in the third that San Jose could've tied the game up, but it was not to be.

Oh well, it was a good game that I wish I could've watched.

At 12/18/05 11:05 PM, -Gooch- wrote:

At 12/18/05 10:32 PM, VeryProudofYa wrote: that has to have been, without a doubt, one of, if not the best game the entire season. The teams were just trading blows, both offensively and physically. The Ducks never trailed in the game, and San Jose never lead. Although, San Jose was never trailing by more than 2 goals at any point. Anahiem grabbed the lead 5 different times throughout the night. It was a highscoring game, loaded with hits.

I'd say they were trading blows. After Scott Thornton tied it up, I was expecting something not to go San Jose's way, and I was right. Anaheim gets a goal not long after that, and they take the lead. I was really hoping that after Marchant was called for that penalty late in the third that San Jose could've tied the game up, but it was not to be.

Oh well, it was a good game that I wish I could've watched.

It was fantastic. The Ducks got their goals from unlikely sources. Their first goal was Kunitz's first shorthanded goal ever. And Fedoruk's was his first in 49 games. They meet again tuesday, but the Sharks won't be moving ahead in the standings for another week or two.

At 12/18/05 11:09 PM, VeryProudofYa wrote:

It was fantastic. The Ducks got their goals from unlikely sources. Their first goal was Kunitz's first shorthanded goal ever. And Fedoruk's was his first in 49 games. They meet again tuesday, but the Sharks won't be moving ahead in the standings for another week or two.

Who the hell would've expected guys like Fedoruk and Kunitz to get goals? Certainly not me. If I hadn't looked at the scoresheet until the morning, I would've thought San Jose had just been blown out horribly by the Ducks. Oh well, it's one game, time to move on to Tuesday.

I wouldn't exactly say that it'll take a week or two for the Sharks to move ahead. This whole situation with Gretzky taking an indefinite absence from the coaching spot in Phoenix really has to be a downer on the team morale.