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Iraqis Want U.S. On Trial 2004-01-20 15:04:12 Reply

http://story.news.yahoo.com/ne...120/wl_nm/iraq_saddam_trial_dc

I wasn't aware that the Iraqis knew of the U.S.'s involvement with Iraq in the 1980s, does this mean that people like Rumsfeld and Reagan are going to be locked-up with Saddam?

Do you think Saddam's old allies should be tried for helping Saddam?

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Response to Iraqis Want U.S. On Trial 2004-01-20 15:57:02 Reply

If the US goes on trial, so should Russia. We weren't the only people to aid Saddam.

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Response to Iraqis Want U.S. On Trial 2004-01-20 16:20:29 Reply

And the French and Germans. Mustn´t forget those who took part in this crime.

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Response to Iraqis Want U.S. On Trial 2004-01-20 16:25:32 Reply

At 1/20/04 04:20 PM, Unpossibility wrote: And the French and Germans. Mustn´t forget those who took part in this crime.

And China. Don't forget China.

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Response to Iraqis Want U.S. On Trial 2004-01-20 16:31:52 Reply

At 1/20/04 04:25 PM, Dagodevas wrote: And China. Don't forget China.

Rats. I knew that I had forgotten someone.......

What about Britain? I have a vague memory, but somehow I keep thinking that they had their hands deep in the pie as well.

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Response to Iraqis Want U.S. On Trial 2004-01-20 16:37:56 Reply

At 1/20/04 04:31 PM, Unpossibility wrote: What about Britain? I have a vague memory, but somehow I keep thinking that they had their hands deep in the pie as well.

Britan too is responsible. So is Japan, Belgium, the Netherlands, and Spain. Not on the same level as China and France (and especially not on the same level as Russia), but they are responsible.

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Response to Iraqis Want U.S. On Trial 2004-01-20 16:43:37 Reply

Regardless of nationality, everyone who helped him gain power, gave him weapons, etc. should be on trial with him.

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Response to Iraqis Want U.S. On Trial 2004-01-20 16:45:29 Reply

Well, since we´re on that kind of crusade, the Iraqis should also sue everyone on the U.N. security counsel, and everyone who supported the Food for Oil program for helping extend the life of Saddam´s regime. Saudi Arabia should also be sued for not allowing American troops into Iraq in 1991, and cutting short much misery for the Iraqi people.

Finally, Iran should also be sued for having a bloody war with Iraq. I mean, they didn´t have to kill ALL those soldiers, did they?

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Response to Iraqis Want U.S. On Trial 2004-01-20 16:47:58 Reply

At 1/20/04 04:43 PM, bumcheekcity wrote: Regardless of nationality, everyone who helped him gain power, gave him weapons, etc. should be on trial with him.

Will this courtisy extend to people who helped murderous dictators after said dictators die?

Cool, now we can go after the entire American population of the 1970´s for not allowing the American government to stop the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia. Take that, hippies!

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Response to Iraqis Want U.S. On Trial 2004-01-20 17:02:12 Reply

At 1/20/04 04:47 PM, Unpossibility wrote: Will this courtisy extend to people who helped murderous dictators after said dictators die?

Maybe not helped. Installed [knowing full bloody well that they held facist views], yes. 'Helped' is hard to define.

Cool, now we can go after the entire American population of the 1970´s for not allowing the American government to stop the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia. Take that, hippies!

We could go after the whole world under that logic, for also not stopping the Khumer Rouge in Cambodia. Which would be intereting...

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Response to Iraqis Want U.S. On Trial 2004-01-20 18:05:22 Reply

My sarcasm-o-meter has gone through the roof. :\

Let me add another question to my original post, why do you think the Iraqis only care about the U.S. and not other countries involved at the time?

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Response to Iraqis Want U.S. On Trial 2004-01-20 18:15:38 Reply

At 1/20/04 06:05 PM, swallowing_shit wrote: My sarcasm-o-meter has gone through the roof. :\

Let me add another question to my original post, why do you think the Iraqis only care about the U.S. and not other countries involved at the time?

I suppose this is the only time that the media isn't just a propaganda tool, and that the Iraqis are all well informed and not just acting out on the easiest target.

*rolls eyes*

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Response to Iraqis Want U.S. On Trial 2004-01-20 21:18:08 Reply

At 1/20/04 06:15 PM, Jimsween wrote: *rolls eyes*

The world's dominant superpower who is virtually immune to legal action is the easiest target to pick?

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Response to Iraqis Want U.S. On Trial 2004-01-21 00:25:46 Reply

At 1/20/04 09:18 PM, swallowing_shit wrote:
At 1/20/04 06:15 PM, Jimsween wrote: *rolls eyes*
The world's dominant superpower who is virtually immune to legal action is the easiest target to pick?

Yes, because more people will hear it. The people protesting would have to be morons to think that they are going to get the US on trial.

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Response to Iraqis Want U.S. On Trial 2004-01-21 00:36:01 Reply

fuck it lets put everyone on trial, the collapse of western civilisation! brilliant!

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Response to Iraqis Want U.S. On Trial 2004-01-21 00:45:48 Reply

At 1/21/04 12:25 AM, Jimsween wrote: Yes, because more people will hear it.

I fail to see why.

The people protesting would have to be morons to think that they are going to get the US on trial.

Care to explain why?

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Response to Iraqis Want U.S. On Trial 2004-01-21 00:52:46 Reply

At 1/21/04 12:45 AM, swallowing_shit wrote:
At 1/21/04 12:25 AM, Jimsween wrote: Yes, because more people will hear it.
I fail to see why.

Would we even be reading this topic if the Iraqui's wanted to put Turkey on trial? Millions of people protested the war, and they are angry because it happened anyways, needless to say they don't just want to roll over and die, if those people were willing to protest against the war, what makes you think they wouldn't be willing to protest to put Bush on trial?


The people protesting would have to be morons to think that they are going to get the US on trial.
Care to explain why?

I'm pretty sure you already did. "The world's dominant superpower who is virtually immune to legal action is the easiest target to pick?"

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Response to Iraqis Want U.S. On Trial 2004-01-21 01:08:39 Reply

At 1/20/04 09:18 PM, swallowing_shit wrote: The world's dominant superpower who is virtually immune to legal action is the easiest target to pick?

Yup, in a "Guilty before Proven Innocent" way.

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Response to Iraqis Want U.S. On Trial 2004-01-21 02:35:37 Reply

At 1/21/04 12:52 AM, Jimsween wrote:
Would we even be reading this topic if the Iraqui's wanted to put Turkey on trial?

Try good ol' France instead.

I'm pretty sure you already did. "The world's dominant superpower who is virtually immune to legal action is the easiest target to pick?"

How do you know I know for a fact that the U.S. is immune to legal actions?

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Response to Iraqis Want U.S. On Trial 2004-01-21 10:04:05 Reply

Well, they've been doing pretty well so far...

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Response to Iraqis Want U.S. On Trial 2004-01-21 12:01:52 Reply

The US won't because they didn't sign up to the international criminal court.

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Response to Iraqis Want U.S. On Trial 2004-01-21 12:56:35 Reply

At 1/21/04 12:01 PM, JamsterBoyo wrote: The US won't because they didn't sign up to the international criminal court.

Bingo! Well actually the U.S. were a part of the World Court as they were unsuccesfully brought to court by Nicaragua for several charges in regards to their support of the "contras", resulting in the deaths of 30,000 Nicaraguan civilians.

However, guess which president decided to pull out of the world court?

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Response to Iraqis Want U.S. On Trial 2004-01-21 13:04:31 Reply

B-B-B-B-B-B-Bush?

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Response to Iraqis Want U.S. On Trial 2004-01-21 13:05:56 Reply

Maybe they just want to make an example out of someone? Should the most powerful nation be able to get away with whatever it pleases? That seems kind of tyrannical for the leader of the free world.

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Response to Iraqis Want U.S. On Trial 2004-01-21 16:43:39 Reply

At 1/21/04 02:35 AM, swallowing_shit wrote:
At 1/21/04 12:52 AM, Jimsween wrote:
Would we even be reading this topic if the Iraqui's wanted to put Turkey on trial?
Try good ol' France instead.

I suppose if you want to use France's giving of weapons to Iraq as an example, and no we would not. Most people don't care about France giving Iraq weapons because it's not a widely known thing, but the US invading Iraq is.


I'm pretty sure you already did. "The world's dominant superpower who is virtually immune to legal action is the easiest target to pick?"
How do you know I know for a fact that the U.S. is immune to legal actions?

I don't, I do know however that nobody has succeeded in trying any US official for war crimes. Do you have a point?

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Response to Iraqis Want U.S. On Trial 2004-01-21 16:50:27 Reply

At 1/21/04 01:05 PM, Kyle_22 wrote: That seems kind of tyrannical for the leader of the free world.

Suprising that... </blatantsarcasm>

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Response to Iraqis Want U.S. On Trial 2004-01-21 17:01:41 Reply

At 1/21/04 01:05 PM, Kyle_22 wrote: That seems kind of tyrannical for the leader of the free world.

Hell, these assholes are even gonna invade my beatiful country and burn down the windmills and step on the tulips if we trial a Yank in the international court in Den Haag. And what can we do about it? Their army is about 10.000 times as big as ours.

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Response to Iraqis Want U.S. On Trial 2004-01-21 17:06:38 Reply

At 1/21/04 04:43 PM, Jimsween wrote: I suppose if you want to use France's giving of weapons to Iraq as an example, and no we would not. Most people don't care about France giving Iraq weapons because it's not a widely known thing, but the US invading Iraq is.

Then why do the Americans hate France?

I don't, I do know however that nobody has succeeded in trying any US official for war crimes. Do you have a point?

Yes, you're wrong. Nicaragua did.

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Response to Iraqis Want U.S. On Trial 2004-01-21 17:06:54 Reply

At 1/21/04 12:56 PM, swallowing_shit wrote: However, guess which president decided to pull out of the world court?

In any case, who ever said that these people actually thought that they had a initial chance of winning? This is more of a symbolic gesture, to garner popular support for themselves.

So far, I'm not sure how effective it has been.

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Response to Iraqis Want U.S. On Trial 2004-01-21 17:18:25 Reply

At 1/21/04 05:06 PM, swallowing_shit wrote:
Then why do the Americans hate France?

The same reason they hate Canada.

Yes, you're wrong. Nicaragua did.

How can you call that success?