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Posted at: 5/27/09 10:15 AM

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To me it sucks, but it'll be okay with some improvements.

At least, make a play button. Please.

And also, it's troublesome to scroll down to see authors comments (which I always do before playing, and I don't think I'm the only one?). Then scroll up to watch the flash. Then scroll down to rate. Terribly annoying!

Or, what I would prefer, make an option to switch back the old layout. Even if you did something to things I mentioned above, I'd still prefer the way it was before. It was better, for small reasons (like the age rating thingy, which was easier to spot and understand before than now).

And a bug, kind of. I can't see flashes under judgment. I'm using a flashblock, and I can't unblock the flashes after I first unblock "Under Judgement- Play" flash and press play. Then it just shows the block. Is it it that the "Under Judgement- Play" flash is transparent, but over the actual flash?

Well, yeah, I could disable the whole flashblock thingy from NG (like I had it disabled before) if you made that play button...


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Posted at: 5/27/09 10:17 AM

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Maybe it was just me.. but once I started playing a game the 'back' button on my browser wouldnt work.


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Posted at: 5/27/09 10:19 AM

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wow awsome:0
this realy is handy, my computer always crashes when i acedentaly scroll down when i'm watching a movieXD
it's just so compact:D

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Cool thanx Tom.....................


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Posted at: 5/27/09 10:23 AM

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Yeah detergentine, I totally agree with you. There should be account options that can toogle the old and new style, because I got too used to the old settings and I hate this new one, because when I start a flash movie (or game), lots of problems:
1. The movie (game) stays blank.
2. The movie (game) doesn't load.
3. My internet crashes.
4. My browser quits.
5. The pop-up button doesn't even work.
6. The night button makes the whole internet screen darker except for the flash.
7. The screen is then too wide.
Tom, I really hope now that you can make it possible for us others who preferred the old layout to switch back to the ol' stuff.
Please Tom, fix this chaos or you "might" lose a large part of the NG community from this website.
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Posted at: 5/27/09 10:25 AM

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quality ive been waiting for this for a long time


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Posted at: 5/27/09 10:28 AM

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Please change it back...


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At 5/27/09 10:15 AM, detergentine wrote: To me it sucks, but it'll be okay with some improvements.

At least, make a play button. Please.

And also, it's troublesome to scroll down to see authors comments (which I always do before playing, and I don't think I'm the only one?). Then scroll up to watch the flash. Then scroll down to rate. Terribly annoying!

Or, what I would prefer, make an option to switch back the old layout. Even if you did something to things I mentioned above, I'd still prefer the way it was before. It was better, for small reasons (like the age rating thingy, which was easier to spot and understand before than now).

And a bug, kind of. I can't see flashes under judgment. I'm using a flashblock, and I can't unblock the flashes after I first unblock "Under Judgement- Play" flash and press play. Then it just shows the block. Is it it that the "Under Judgement- Play" flash is transparent, but over the actual flash?

Well, yeah, I could disable the whole flashblock thingy from NG (like I had it disabled before) if you made that play button...

I agree, I don't want to scroll all over the place just to see feedback or vote. Also it's very annoying the flash starts once you load the page, sometimes you want to check out the comments or something first. Especially considering there are some popup spam flashes or flashes with really annoying music.

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At 5/27/09 10:35 AM, Yiffy wrote:
I agree, I don't want to scroll all over the place just to see feedback or vote. Also it's very annoying the flash starts once you load the page, sometimes you want to check out the comments or something first. Especially considering there are some popup spam flashes or flashes with really annoying music.

True, maybe Tom can just add a dinky little play button on the top that launches when clicked on? Maybe?

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Posted at: 5/27/09 10:44 AM

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Give it a Stop button. Seriously. Please.


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I don't think legitimate criticisms are getting any attention from the staff because they're being flooded by whining ad infinitum.


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Posted at: 5/27/09 10:52 AM

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I didn't (obviously) read the whole topic, but i for one don't like the new lay-out. It's a good concept, but it's slightly too big. I don't like the fact that the edges of the flash are stretched out of the taskbar which contains flash/audio portals, games, movies etc.


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Posted at: 5/27/09 10:54 AM

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At 5/27/09 10:49 AM, Grammer wrote: I don't think legitimate criticisms are getting any attention from the staff because they're being flooded by whining ad infinitum.

Fret not, we've been building a list of legit suggestions, and most of you will be happy with some of the solutions we are going to be working on.

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At 5/27/09 10:54 AM, PsychoGoldfish wrote:
At 5/27/09 10:49 AM, Grammer wrote: I don't think legitimate criticisms are getting any attention from the staff because they're being flooded by whining ad infinitum.
Fret not, we've been building a list of legit suggestions, and most of you will be happy with some of the solutions we are going to be working on.

Good, I'm actually starting to get used to it, but I think the author should still be more in focus.

And maybe you could minimize the flash?


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At 5/26/09 08:17 PM, TomFulp wrote: Alrighty... The wide layout has launched!

The "Related Content" info needs to re-populate with proper results. Until then you will see a lot of content that doesn't feel very related... The end result should be much better.

If you want to test the "Max Size" button, which makes Flash fill the width of the layout, try it on these!
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/15 1706
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/18 9081
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/43 9541
You can still open Flash in a pop-up as well, and the moon icon dims the lights, like the lightbox layout we had before this. Give it a minute to soak in and let us know if anything is totally broken.

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At 5/27/09 10:54 AM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: Fret not, we've been building a list of legit suggestions, and most of you will be happy with some of the solutions we are going to be working on.

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Posted at: 5/27/09 11:02 AM

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I don't know if it's been mentioned before, but we should be able to have the option to switch between the old and new layouts. I prefer the old one, but I'm sure others like the new one. Pretty please?

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Posted at: 5/27/09 11:03 AM

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Tom Fulp, the new wide layout is awesome. I am guessing that you guys copied the design from the wide screen layout on youtube. Haha. It's still good though. 10/10


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Posted at: 5/27/09 11:10 AM

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Please please pleeeeease make an option to toggle between old and new layout. The new one just makes things harder to find especially since I usually just get in, check a few movies or games, pms and such and get out; all in a minute or so because I just don't have the time I'd want to explore the whole site. Also, auto-loading flash movies and games is just wrong.


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Posted at: 5/27/09 11:12 AM

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i dont like it,the old style was the best,please change it back!


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Posted at: 5/27/09 11:17 AM

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I hate it tbh. It's good that the flash window doesn't fuck up when you scroll up and down but I'd really rather put up with that than an oversight as large as no stop button. I was trying to review a submission and this shitty low quality music was driving me insane. Poor guy probably got a lower score than he deserved.

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Wide layout not kool I have my computer set to 800 x 600 revolution it just doesn't work... At least I'm still able to run games/movies in pop-ups

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I give this a great big 'eh'. Still pretty cool though, and all the new little buttons are awfully exiting.

However the pop-up doesn't work for me (It did before so could it be my blocker?...Or maybe its the fact I'm on a mac)

Anyhoo, well done you lot, it doesn't really make much of a difference as far as I'm concerned but it looks very pretty and I'm sure will make it easier to link videos.


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At 5/27/09 10:28 AM, Nicholas-Deary wrote: Please change it back...

Actually, I've changed my mind about it; after reading Psycho-Goldfish's post I've realised that it will be best for everyone seeing as everyone will get more views on their submissions and such. The only two things I would change is having the author information next to the submission window and having the trophies nearer to the top because they are very important.


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At 5/27/09 10:05 AM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: Keep in mnd, Newgrounds is not some big site backed by venture capitol. We are all about branching features to the audio community, but with limited resources, most of our time is spent on maintainance and revenue generation with the long term goal of being able to do more in way of sponsorships, and bringing in new talent to the team that can help with features relating to multi-author audio (amongst other awesome ideas on the super long 'to-do' list we have).

How about asking what features people actually want before launching them? A redesign was not needed, and just by a gross guess, I say that about half the comments about it is negative. People are citing good reasons to NOT have this design.

Besides, aren't you supposed to be working on that chat? Ghee, why is it taking so long? Is DNF going to come out before the chat?

Ask people for opinions, they got plenty to share. Making half the userbase unhappy is a bad move.
Go ahead, try and blame that much on people not being used to the new stuff. Because change is bad.

I ask, why do people not complain about old stuff? Because they no longer care about it. It's old news, and it's not something they think about.
Yes, all the complains are going to come in when it's still new. It's because no one cares when it's old!

This situation feels like Nintendo all over again, "let's make our loyal people upset by focusing on the causual masses! Screw the repeat visitors! What, the repeat visitors have opinions? Bah, who cares?". Yeah, real good business practice.

Or for the people with short attention spans:
I don't like this redesign project one bit. It was unexpected and done without any feedback, resulting in a lot of people being upset.

And as the finishing words:
Change is not bad. Unexpected change is.

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Posted at: 5/27/09 11:39 AM

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It's great, but please put the "user, co-author, views, upload date, filesize"-box higher up, next to the flash maybe. People should be able to see stuff like that.

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It's awesome! thanks phcogoldfish, that other guy, and bob!

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At 5/27/09 11:27 AM, mranarchy wrote: However the pop-up doesn't work for me (It did before so could it be my blocker?...Or maybe its the fact I'm on a mac)

If you're using Safari 4.0 (beta), it could be that. I can't get it to work, and I think Glaiel Gamer pointed out that he couldn't get it to work either, and we're both using Safari.

When I use Firefox on a Mac, the pop-up works just fine.

I believe someone pointed out earlier on that Safari may not work for pop-ups because it automatically axes them without notification. This doesn't explain why I could use the pop-up function before though.

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