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Response to Wide Layout May. 27th, 2009 @ 07:10 AM Reply

I suppose I'll get used to it. It's a pretty neat idea, and I'm sure with time everyone will learn to like it.
The only "bug" I've found so far is one of the ad boxes blocking some links when I have AdBlock Plus enabled (which is always, unless I'm playing a game with medals). Picture included for clarity:

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Response to Wide Layout May. 27th, 2009 @ 07:15 AM Reply

Aww, man, I hate this new layout. :S

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Response to Wide Layout May. 27th, 2009 @ 07:16 AM Reply

But yeah, you'll probably want to have an option aside to turn off autoplay, especially when you consider autoplaying flashes like the Weebl toons.

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Response to Wide Layout May. 27th, 2009 @ 07:16 AM Reply

Where can I see the age restriction details (i.e. violence etc.) ?

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Response to Wide Layout May. 27th, 2009 @ 07:16 AM Reply

I like the new layout quite a bit. My only major problem is how out of the way reviews will become, not nearly as many people will take the time to scroll down and read some. I suppose the same people that were interested before will still bother to look, but the casual review read and vote will occur much less often. I hope this doesn't become a lost aspect of newgrounds!


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Response to Wide Layout May. 27th, 2009 @ 07:22 AM Reply

At 5/27/09 07:16 AM, blastofftek wrote: Where can I see the age restriction details (i.e. violence etc.) ?

in the top left there is a little icon... a green E for everyone... a blue T for teen and a Red one for mature...

iv already posted my thoughts about this... i feel it still needs alot of work... but im strongly in favour of having the choice of new or old... or if it comes to it... removing it all together!


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Response to Wide Layout May. 27th, 2009 @ 07:32 AM Reply

Really loving the new layout. Nice work!!


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Response to Wide Layout May. 27th, 2009 @ 07:32 AM Reply

one step closer to youtube, eh?

good new feature anyway.


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Response to Wide Layout May. 27th, 2009 @ 07:34 AM Reply

To be honest I liked the other one better.
Will probably get used to it though

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Response to Wide Layout May. 27th, 2009 @ 07:42 AM Reply

Thats pretty cool

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Response to Wide Layout May. 27th, 2009 @ 07:49 AM Reply

I really don't think that an autoplay option is a good idea. Spammers will make use of it to instantly spam the browser window with useless popups. They now can just swap the file once it passed judgement.
Also I hate auto play. I want to decide myself when the flash should start.
It really isn't that good if a big flash (like the street fighter collab for example) that takes ages to load (hey, internet in Europe isn't that fast!). Now I have to sit the whole loading bar to watch a big flash from the beginning. If I just go away and let the flash load then I might miss the beginning of it.

Also also, the pop up button doesn't seem to work in Opera. Nothing happens when I press it. The other buttons work fine, though.

To the layout itself: Well, it's different. I like that now the flash is so prominent on the page. Not the author, not the authors comments but the flash. That way people might just vote according to the quality of the flash and not look at the author, thinking "I don't like him -> 0!" or "a flash by clock crew will just pass no matter what I vote -> 5".
But it will take quite some time before I get used to it...


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Response to Wide Layout May. 27th, 2009 @ 07:50 AM Reply

I don't understand why the buttons for enlarging, opening in a pop-up and darkening the background have to be in FLASH :-/

Another thing is that after pressing the button to make the game/movie larger/smaller, I have to press "Back" as many times as I've pressed the button, so that I can go to the page last visited.

And lastly, when you are viewing "Chuck's New Tux", the "You might also enjoy..." caption doesn't appear - only the games.

Overall, the new layout is super and attractive - nothing more to say :D

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Response to Wide Layout May. 27th, 2009 @ 07:50 AM Reply

It's awesome!

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Response to Wide Layout May. 27th, 2009 @ 07:51 AM Reply

I prefered the old layout...

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Response to Wide Layout May. 27th, 2009 @ 07:57 AM Reply

Its OK Tom, but there are a few issues.

We know have to scroll even more to get to the voting part, people liked it where it was.
Effects the logo area and account stuff at the top, that should get effected even if it destroys a bit of the natural flow of the layout.

Maybe try to use the "lightbox" and do the wide layout stuff, I think itll be better.

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Response to Wide Layout May. 27th, 2009 @ 07:58 AM Reply

I must say this looks REALLY awkward and cluttered. Any way we can change back to the old one?


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Response to Wide Layout May. 27th, 2009 @ 08:01 AM Reply

At 5/27/09 07:58 AM, Yiffy wrote: I must say this looks REALLY awkward and cluttered. Any way we can change back to the old one?

Definitely agree, as I stated above. Im done posting here for now, pce Tom and everyone.

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Response to Wide Layout May. 27th, 2009 @ 08:06 AM Reply

it's nice and all but, really the zoom option worries me, some artists intend their work to be viewed at a specifice size for quality issues, if you give the artists no control over this, it could potentially lower their scores by people viewing the movies in the wrong size...
Please give the artists the option to restrict the zoomy thing and it'll be alright ;)


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Response to Wide Layout May. 27th, 2009 @ 08:09 AM Reply

At 5/27/09 12:10 AM, Dopefish wrote: The HUGE banner ads are annoying as hell though. Why would I want to scroll half way down the page just to vote on a movie? Dumb.

Wow, maybe if I actually took the time to watch a flash movie I would have realized that the thing I thought was an obnoxiously large banner ad was really a submission. Bleh, nevermind.


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Response to Wide Layout May. 27th, 2009 @ 08:13 AM Reply

Also it seems to render much and much better with firefox than with internet explorer. And there are two black bars at the bottom, probaly already reported.


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Response to Wide Layout May. 27th, 2009 @ 08:16 AM Reply

At 5/27/09 08:06 AM, TheThingy5 wrote: it's nice and all but, really the zoom option worries me, some artists intend their work to be viewed at a specifice size for quality issues, if you give the artists no control over this, it could potentially lower their scores by people viewing the movies in the wrong size...
Please give the artists the option to restrict the zoomy thing and it'll be alright ;)

Flash only tracks object locations up to the 0.0th place. When you stretch Flash, this can cause problems with hit tests in games since it will round those values. I had my character sliding off edges and enemies killing themselves with an inappropriately sized screen.

There are also boxes obscuring parts of the menu, and it kind of sucks that you have to scroll so much to get to the voting/reviews.


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Response to Wide Layout May. 27th, 2009 @ 08:17 AM Reply

Great job Tom! Its looks great and the original picture quality seems to still be intact. The only problem i've had so far is lag but, then again this is what a beta is for. Keep it up!

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Response to Wide Layout May. 27th, 2009 @ 08:23 AM Reply

Nice system, love the new wide/face/etc. modes, but some of the parts really don't fit together too well, the voting bar looks tiny now, and the login panel at the top's ugly as sin alongside the smart steampunk-y boiler thing. Rather have the info and voting stuff where the related content box is too, seems a bit unfair to only give the artists a footnote.
Nitpicks aside, great job!

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Response to Wide Layout May. 27th, 2009 @ 08:25 AM Reply

3) An idea, similar to userpages, maybe the author should be able to arrange the page, except for the flash's position? Seeing that the authors are lower on the page and almost cut off, it'd kinda cool if we could move things around.

Yeah, I like your idea.

Anyways... great update, Tom!

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Response to Wide Layout May. 27th, 2009 @ 08:34 AM Reply

This is great. However, the layout is a little bit weird.

I think for pages that display like the Brackenwood page, the author comments should still go to the left of the movie, while the suggested viewing should still go below the fold. (See Illustration)

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Response to Wide Layout May. 27th, 2009 @ 08:36 AM Reply

At 5/27/09 08:06 AM, TheThingy5 wrote: it's nice and all but, really the zoom option worries me, some artists intend their work to be viewed at a specifice size for quality issues, if you give the artists no control over this, it could potentially lower their scores by people viewing the movies in the wrong size...
Please give the artists the option to restrict the zoomy thing and it'll be alright ;)

I agree with thethingy5 - I think this new layout has a lot of potential but needs some work. That zoom feature worries me as well; I've always liked how newgrounds didn't allow for this as some of my games experience graphical glitches when the size is altered.

I also really like the old Newgrounds view window, it was quite stylish - I find the game pages kind of lose a bit of class when the game is just up right away like that.

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Response to Wide Layout May. 27th, 2009 @ 08:36 AM Reply

At 5/27/09 08:34 AM, Halvgoeden wrote: This is great. However, the layout is a little bit weird.

I think for pages that display like the Brackenwood page, the author comments should still go to the left of the movie, while the suggested viewing should still go below the fold. (See Illustration)

And by Author Comments, I meant Author Info


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Response to Wide Layout May. 27th, 2009 @ 08:41 AM Reply

At 5/27/09 08:36 AM, Halvgoeden wrote:
At 5/27/09 08:34 AM, Halvgoeden wrote: This is great. However, the layout is a little bit weird.

I think for pages that display like the Brackenwood page, the author comments should still go to the left of the movie, while the suggested viewing should still go below the fold. (See Illustration)
And by Author Comments, I meant Author Info

Yeah, I believe it's wrong as people are less likely to look at more stuff by the actual author. I also think people are now less likely to read the comments, so they may miss some important information

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Response to Wide Layout May. 27th, 2009 @ 08:44 AM Reply

First one was better.

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Response to Wide Layout May. 27th, 2009 @ 08:52 AM Reply

I like it., but it's missing the option to close the flash and make it stop playing. You have to either open it as a pop up and then close it again, or exit the whole page.


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