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At 6/4/09 09:29 PM, Obvious-M wrote: The main one which interested me, is when natal comes out, how will the online go? I still can't get my head around how great it could potentially be.

I doubt it, many games, like with the eyetoy, you could cheat by getting close to the screen and such. PS3 guys realize this, and with that knowledge decide to use controllers, which in my opinion, look amazing.

At 6/4/09 10:31 PM, chickendance333 wrote:

At 6/4/09 09:29 PM, Obvious-M wrote: The main one which interested me, is when natal comes out, how will the online go? I still can't get my head around how great it could potentially be.

I doubt it, many games, like with the eyetoy, you could cheat by getting close to the screen and such. PS3 guys realize this, and with that knowledge decide to use controllers, which in my opinion, look amazing.

well u couldn't run right up to the camera with the natal cause it tries to recognize a body, but i bet u could pull out some sort of action figure or something and find a way to cheat with that thing.

At 6/4/09 05:39 PM, Jerkapotamus wrote:

At 6/4/09 04:53 PM, Obvious-M wrote: all today me and my friends were just going through games which would be awesome to play because of natal.

Which ones are those? If it works as advertised, it's facial/emotional recognition seems like it would work well in a pretty complex RPG. I don't really see it being used as the centerpiece for a game though. In other words, I think there could be some interesting applications in tandem with a controller, but not by itself. Standalone, I only see it working in eyetoy-like mini-games and tech projects like Milo.

I'm not really interested in playing current games on Natal, but some games made for it specifically. In my opinion the games already out were obviously not meant for natal and would end up being either gimmicky for the most part or just not worth it. EA says they have known about it for months and are already producing games for it and both Rare and Lionhead are making games for it so I'm curious to see what quality games they make for it. Not vision cam games.

Kodu launches this month.

http://community.research.microsoft.com/
blogs/kodu/archive/2009/06/04/so-busy-so -here-s-a-screenshot.aspx

For those of you who don't know Kodu is essentially programming for the public. You can build your own games from the ground up.

At 6/4/09 10:34 PM, SlipperyMooseCakes wrote: I'm not really interested in playing current games on Natal, but some games made for it specifically. In my opinion the games already out were obviously not meant for natal and would end up being either gimmicky for the most part or just not worth it. EA says they have known about it for months and are already producing games for it and both Rare and Lionhead are making games for it so I'm curious to see what quality games they make for it. Not vision cam games.

You know, I felt the exact same way when the Wii came out. In the Wii's case I think it was really the lack of precision that hampered early releases. Once developers realized it really didn't offer the required amount of precision, they just began using waggle as a button substitute. Now that Motion Plus is coming out, that level of precision is supposedly obtainable. At this point, I think Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft are all facing the same problem: how to get enough of these motion devices out to consumers in order to get third-parties to put serious budgets behind them. Nintendo has the easiest job since it's just an add-on, and is thus much cheaper and can be bundled with games like Red Steel 2.

I'm not quite sure what Sony and Microsoft will do. Bundling with a game is the obvious choice, but I doubt it will be fleshed out; probably something similar to Wii Sports. They could bundle it with the console itself, but then it'll take a year or two to build up an install base large enough relative to the existing audience to cause developers to look at it. Plus, given the price of the devices, it's basically like cutting the price by somewhere between $50 and $100. Microsoft may be able to do that, but Sony can't. They need to actually cut the price.

It's a pretty tough problem that all three companies need to solve if they want their new devices to succeed. If third parties don't support them, then they'll end up exactly like the Wii. First party will offer some early projects, but the longevity of the devices ultimately depends on third'party support.

At 6/4/09 11:47 PM, Jerkapotamus wrote: It's a pretty tough problem that all three companies need to solve if they want their new devices to succeed. If third parties don't support them, then they'll end up exactly like the Wii. First party will offer some early projects, but the longevity of the devices ultimately depends on third'party support.

I agree. They are playing a risky game and are in danger of tainting their quality systems. However, are they really going to care if that happens if it brings in barrels of money? Nintendo seem to care less about the third party shovel ware going on their console and it's a real shame. I don't think Sony or Microsoft will get to that point though, they are taking smaller steps where as Nintendo jumped right into the motion control scene. EA and other companies are producing games for Natal and Sony's motion control so I hope they take their time. Unfortunately I heard they are looking into something along the fitness type games like Wii Fit which is a shame.

As for getting their products out on the market I can't speak for Sony but I know Microsoft said at their press conference that it is going to be sold separately and then eventually packaged with every Xbox. At least that's what my fanboy ears heard. Microsoft has the upperhand on that, they are at a lower price point and in a few years when they can afford a slim they can throw natal in their to balance out the price. I think that means they have the advantage of getting their product into more homes. I don't know, we'll see. Both are interesting.

Can anybody tell me what the story is on Metal Gear Solid: Rising? Is it exclusive to the 360 or not?

At 6/5/09 12:33 AM, Gustavos wrote: Can anybody tell me what the story is on Metal Gear Solid: Rising? Is it exclusive to the 360 or not?

No. It is multiplatform. Xbox 360, PS3, and PC.

At 6/5/09 12:35 AM, SlipperyMooseCakes wrote:

At 6/5/09 12:33 AM, Gustavos wrote: Can anybody tell me what the story is on Metal Gear Solid: Rising? Is it exclusive to the 360 or not?

No. It is multiplatform. Xbox 360, PS3, and PC.

Awesome. No way in hell I'm missing any game of the series not on handhelds.

how about that Castlevania with patrick stewart?

Has someone got an E3 summary link?

Wasn't Valve supposed to be having their own showing Thursday morning?

I think they really need to explain themselves about L4D2 and lack of Episode 3. I've been the last one to say that over the past couple of days, but a lot of fans are pissed (myself not included).

Awards
First Microsoft brought us Achievements for every Xbox 360 game, now they are bringing Awards. Awards are just as they sound. It seems that you will not only get more gamerpoints, but awards as well. This could me more Avatar clothing, props, etc. Now we don't know if both Achievements and Awards will be one in the same or if they will be two total seperate things but the awards idea sounds cool. If you suck at gaming you will be able to buy props (pictured below) with your own money. Yes that's a RC Warthog.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/
06/xbox-live-evolves-no-more-microsoft-p oints-user-ratings.ars

Games on Demand
Games on demand will launch in August offering 30+ retail games for download. Not only that but games will be added WEEKLY. To top that off, you will now for the first time have the option to buy games off the Xbox Live Marketplace in your local currency via your credit card. Microsoft points are still available if you prefer that way or don't have a credit card but now you can truly get games right off the xbox without having to leave your seat.

Rating System
You will now be able to rate downloadable content, add ons, etc on live. It will be a simple 5 star system. If something is really good give it a 5, something sucks give it 1. You will be able to sort content by the rating system to help you better pick which content you want to buy and think it is worth your money.

Nintendo releases Zelda artwork that was shown off at Miyamoto's press conference.

It is awesome that they have added retail games for download.

At 6/5/09 03:37 PM, SlipperyMooseCakes wrote: Rating System

Minor upgrade but an essential one. I am looking forward to this ala the iTunes store when trying to find good content.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-
just-cause-2/50740

This thread needs moar just cause 2 lovin'

Seriously the game looks incredible

At 6/9/09 08:16 PM, BananaBreadMuffin wrote: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-
just-cause-2/50740

This thread needs moar just cause 2 lovin'

Seriously the game looks incredible

That game does look awesome. I'm glad it's multiplatform.

I just wonder if it will be as fun as it looks. It kind of looks like it might get repetitive.

At 6/9/09 09:43 PM, Smokey651 wrote:

That game does look awesome. I'm glad it's multiplatform.

I just wonder if it will be as fun as it looks. It kind of looks like it might get repetitive.

Repetitive is what every game is described as, by definition.

But the first Just Cause was amazing, and the whole nonsense they've added with the hook is fantastic. Especially how it was showcased.

At 6/9/09 09:43 PM, Smokey651 wrote: I just wonder if it will be as fun as it looks. It kind of looks like it might get repetitive.

It's only as repetitive as you let it. In the first one I was really grinding at the end, flying round in helicopters, razing villages, then hopping down and capturing a flag, then repeating for the next place, and the next place, etc etc etc etc...

but instead I could've jumped out of a jet, hijacked a passing military jeep, driven it into a wall, and then thrown grenades at it until everyone who'd run over to shoot me died....

It's as repetitive as you make it.

But yeah, JC2 looks nice. The graphics now look gorgeous as opposed to Just Cause's "Hmmm I know let's just put a nice soft bloom effect on everything" faux-gorgeous, the grappling hook's anything-and-everything targeting is a natural improvement, though I'm not sure how the dual-grappling will go, I feel it'll probably be a gimmick and nothing else. I wonder if you can make triplines out of it?

Also climbing around vehicles for cover looked hilariously fun.

At 6/10/09 08:50 AM, BananaBreadMuffin wrote:
But yeah, JC2 looks nice. The graphics now look gorgeous as opposed to Just Cause's "Hmmm I know let's just put a nice soft bloom effect on everything" faux-gorgeous, the grappling hook's anything-and-everything targeting is a natural improvement, though I'm not sure how the dual-grappling will go, I feel it'll probably be a gimmick and nothing else. I wonder if you can make triplines out of it?

It looks like a big improvement over the first game, which I still very much enjoyed.

However, I was disappointed to hear it's getting a 2010 release, for some reason I thought it was coming out this Autumn.

Final Fantasy 13 and left 4 dead 2...

Ok I've just got a couple of questions.

Was Dead Space 2 mention or discussed at all?
Has any more information of Fallout: New Vegas been released?
Is the PSN going to allow players to connect online to people with PC's or Xbox 360's?
Has there been any info leaked on the new Xbox?

And I've HEARD that Nintendo's next system is going to be the Wii HD, or something along the lines of that. Its supposed to have a better hardrive allowing for better graphics, and more save room.