PC gone too far?

[JoS]

OK first off I just wanna say this is not againt the Politics Crew if anybody got that impression from the name.

IN recent years Political Correctness has been taken to new levels. IN writers Craft we talked about it and got an article from a magazine with several stupid examples of PC. The NEw York PArks department had a statue removed that was to be unvieled in afew weeks in a city park. The statue was MAn and his best friend. The reason for this being taken away, the dog wasnt on a leash. ONe state changed the wording in one of their old laws and with regards to the Ku Klux Klan changed the term racist to white-race enthusaists. A women quit her job in a sysmphony orcastra becomes she wanted Peter from Peter and the Wolf to be played by a women, not a man to show women were just as strong as men. Well I think it shoudl have been played by a women to show just how whiney and attention seeking they really are. I will admit im am not the most PC person. I still call them midgits not short people, little people, verticly challenged or whatever they wanna be calle dtoday. I enjoyed watching 16 of them pull a plane in a race against 1 elephant pulling a plane on FOX. There was a book called the cripple crew about some disabled people that were made fun of at school. They had to change the title several years later to the invisables or something. Does anybody here feel that this movement is going way too far. I mean there is a line between blatently offesnive and just a little perhaps incosiderate. Like calling a gay person a "butt fag" not homosexual or gay. And perhaps the "n" word is could fall into that category. But the KKK not racist or midgets called little people. Come on give me a break.

[Thanatopsis]

the one thing about the woman who left the symphony that isnt a pc isue but the other stuff if you dont like it then just say fuck it and live how you want its not importent.

[RedSkunk]

At 1/19/04 10:32 PM, theredgoatee wrote: the one thing about the woman who left the symphony that isnt a pc isue but the other stuff if you dont like it then just say fuck it and live how you want its not importent.

I agree. I don't get how the term 'rascist' isn't pc anymore..?

The dog statue is funny though. They could add a leash to it. Would be fun =)

[bumcheekcity]

At 1/19/04 10:28 PM, RugbyMacDaddy wrote: The NEw York PArks department had a statue removed that was to be unvieled in afew weeks in a city park. The statue was MAn and his best friend. The reason for this being taken away, the dog wasnt on a leash.

That's not Politifcally Correct or incorrect, that's just plain nuts.

ONe state changed the wording in one of their old laws and with regards to the Ku Klux Klan changed the term racist to white-race enthusaists.

Just out of interest, that was one of the bible-belt states wasn't it? Either way, a rose by any other name is still as thorny.

A women quit her job in a sysmphony orcastra becomes she wanted Peter from Peter and the Wolf to be played by a women, not a man to show women were just as strong as men. Well I think it shoudl have been played by a women to show just how whiney and attention seeking they really are.

That's just plain stupid again, she'd be an uber femenist, which just takes it too far. Men are just as <insert adjective her> as women, but PETER is played by a guy. Sorry about that.

I will admit im am not the most PC person. I still call them midgits not short people, little people, verticly challenged or whatever they wanna be calle dtoday. I enjoyed watching 16 of them pull a plane in a race against 1 elephant pulling a plane on FOX.

Actually, short people HATE being called virtically challenged, they see that as a real insult, and , quite frankly, I would too. Just call them short, if you need a descriptive word.

There was a book called the cripple crew about some disabled people that were made fun of at school. They had to change the title several years later to the invisables or something. Does anybody here feel that this movement is going way too far.

Well, I think calling the book "The Cripple Crew" might be a little ofensive for my tastes.

I mean there is a line between blatently offesnive and just a little perhaps incosiderate. Like calling a gay person a "butt fag" not homosexual or gay. And perhaps the "n" word is could fall into that category. But the KKK not racist or midgets called little people. Come on give me a break.

Yeah. Calling gay people "fags" or whatever, is what you say when you're out to offend. I want to interject that the KKK, and the Nazis, and anyone else who follows a blatantly racist viewpoint LIKES to be called racist. They're proud of it, which is something I can't comprehend.

[swaenK]

yes, sexism and PC'ness has gone way too far. They care more about what they think is right, then what the real problem is. They attack the little things, the stupid crap things, and leave the major problems behind. Sometimes even making the bigger problem look small. "White enthusiesists" give me a break. Yes I can't spell enthusiestists sue me lol

[hired-goon]

There was a case here in the UK recently - a teacher was suspended for calling a blackboard a ... blackboard. This is actually true.

[Sekky]

At 1/20/04 11:59 AM, hired_goon wrote: There was a case here in the UK recently - a teacher was suspended for calling a blackboard a ... blackboard. This is actually true.

Yeah, apparently they're not supposed to call it that anymore, also the term 'brainstorm' has been prohibited from use in our school, because there's an actual medical condition of the same name. We have to use 'thought shower'

[JoS]

What next, no longer calling white chocolate white, but rather hue 132 chocolate. I wonder if they will ever scrap the word terrorist to something like, fear ethunists.

[Sekky]

At 1/20/04 04:05 PM, RugbyMacDaddy wrote: What next, no longer calling white chocolate white, but rather hue 132 chocolate. I wonder if they will ever scrap the word terrorist to something like, fear ethunists.

Colours will be refered to by hex values, not hue values.

[bumcheekcity]

At 1/20/04 11:59 AM, hired_goon wrote: There was a case here in the UK recently - a teacher was suspended for calling a blackboard a ... blackboard. This is actually true.

Really? I mean, do you have a report for this or something?

[Reverend-Kyle]

At 1/20/04 12:32 PM, Sekky wrote: Yeah, apparently they're not supposed to call it that anymore, also the term 'brainstorm' has been prohibited from use in our school, because there's an actual medical condition of the same name. We have to use 'thought shower'

That's kind of... sad.

As for changing the name of a book, there is a 'fine line' between demeaning and empowering, but I guess it all depends on who is writing the book. It has to do with people taking back the words that were once used against them; like the "n" word, and fag.
I wouldn't care if someone wrote a book called "The Four-Eyed Honky Club", but that's just me. I haven't really been attacked for having glasses or being white, so seeing such words wouldn't bother me. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it all depends on perspective.

[True-Lies]

At 1/21/04 02:12 PM, Kyle_22 wrote: As for changing the name of a book, there is a 'fine line' between demeaning and empowering, but I guess it all depends on who is writing the book.

Hey, Jimmy and Timmy from South Park started a crew called "The Crips" for people crippled at birth, what's so wrong with the crippled crew? And have we all forgotten about Slomo?

It has to do with people taking back the words that were once used against them; like the "n" word, and fag.

God I hate it when people can't even say niger! The word wasn't even originally meant to be derogatory toward blacks, it was originally what you'd call a really dirty person. If I get banned for saying it, It'll just go to prove my point that political correctness should be abolished.

I wouldn't care if someone wrote a book called "The Four-Eyed Honky Club",

HELLLOOO NEW BOOK TITLE!

[bumcheekcity]

At 1/21/04 03:51 PM, Inebrion wrote: God I hate it when people can't even say niger! The word wasn't even originally meant to be derogatory toward blacks, it was originally what you'd call a really dirty person. If I get banned for saying it, It'll just go to prove my point that political correctness should be abolished.

N!gger has 2 g's. And the actual word is blanked out on the BBS, if you write it properly then it wont let you post.

[lapslf]

I think you should be allowed to name a book, film, video game etc. however you like. That's called freedom of speech. If someone gets offended because I call my book "a negro and his toilet" just don't read the damn book.

[Sekky]

At 1/21/04 03:51 PM, Inebrion wrote: Hey, Jimmy and Timmy from South Park started a crew called "The Crips" for people crippled at birth, what's so wrong with the crippled crew? And have we all forgotten about Slomo?

You do know who the crips are in the real world, don't you?

God I hate it when people can't even say niger! The word wasn't even originally meant to be derogatory toward blacks, it was originally what you'd call a really dirty person. If I get banned for saying it, It'll just go to prove my point that political correctness should be abolished.

No, 'Negro' and various similar words mean 'black' in a lot of foreign languages, the n word is a deritive of that.

As taken from dictionary.com
[Alteration of dialectal neger, black person, from French nègre, from Spanish negro. See Negro.]

[Proteas]

At 1/21/04 03:51 PM, Inebrion wrote: Hey, Jimmy and Timmy from South Park started a crew called "The Crips" for people crippled at birth, what's so wrong with the crippled crew? And have we all forgotten about Slomo?

Is it just me, or does "Slomo" seem to be trying to capitalize on his disability?

[FUNKbrs]

I have one conclusion to the PC phenomnenon:

Political Correctness is a weapon forged by political factions not in power to weaken those who are. It is now used as a pretext for doing just about ANYTHING. Wanna be rich? Claim some horrible emotional slight, and SUE THE SHIT OUT OF SOMEONE WITH LOTS OF MONEY. If you have a convoluted enough story, you can convince a judge your "feelings" (which psychology teaches are actually just cultural interpretations of heightened and lowered physical readiness states, therefore not even real) are worth MILLIONS OF REALDOLLARS!

AARRGGH!!!!

*slams head into wall*

[True-Lies]

At 1/21/04 05:18 PM, Sekky wrote: You do know who the crips are in the real world, don't you?

No, I've been on Mars for the past decade, in a small cave, with my fingers in my ears and my eyes firmly shut.

No, 'Negro' and various similar words mean 'black' in a lot of foreign languages, the n word is a deritive of that.

That's not what I heard...

[True-Lies]

At 1/21/04 04:36 PM, bumcheekcity wrote: N!gger has 2 g's. And the actual word is blanked out on the BBS, if you write it properly then it wont let you post.

Yeah I know, I used one g because I'm not about to use the term "the 'N' word". I'm a firmly believer in the destruction of PC, and I'll be damned if some crybaby who can't even take seeing the word in a BBS forum is going to stop me from typing it. There's no hate implied here, so there is no reason to be offended.

[Sekky]

At 1/21/04 10:32 PM, Inebrion wrote: That's not what I heard...

That really should be common knowledge, it's smack-in-the-face obvious where it originates.

[True-Lies]

... That's not what I heard...

w00t! 600th post!

[Sekky]

At 1/22/04 03:37 AM, Inebrion wrote: ... That's not what I heard...

So you learn from other people? You hold society back

[JoS]

REally, how many people care? I read in that article that in Britain the gov't employment thing took the word clean out of applicant criteria so that people with poor hygine would not be offended.

[Samuel-HALL]

At 1/21/04 08:45 PM, JudgeFUNK wrote: I have one conclusion to the PC phenomnenon:

Political Correctness is a weapon forged by political factions not in power to weaken those who are. It is now used as a pretext for doing just about ANYTHING. Wanna be rich? Claim some horrible emotional slight, and SUE THE SHIT OUT OF SOMEONE WITH LOTS OF MONEY. If you have a convoluted enough story, you can convince a judge your "feelings" (which psychology teaches are actually just cultural interpretations of heightened and lowered physical readiness states, therefore not even real) are worth MILLIONS OF REALDOLLARS!

AARRGGH!!!!

*slams head into wall*

This guy here said it better than i could in a million fucking years. I understand the neccessity of not calling a midget a 'shot little freak bitch'. Ok? Like someone else said...if hate is not implied...no offense should be taken.
I, for one, do not believe in hyphenated Americans. You're not African-American. You're not Mexican-American. Nor are you European-American. You're a fucking AMERICAN, just like me. People need to stop segragating themselves into little catagories; like little clubs children make up to make themselves different.

[RedSkunk]

At 1/23/04 12:35 AM, Damien3003 wrote: People need to stop segragating themselves into little catagories; like little clubs children make up to make themselves different.

I think it's an offshoot of our rugged individualism. Everyone has to be an 'individual.' We have to be 'different.' Thus we invent new hypenated words to describe ourselves.

Does anyone else see this in other countries? I don't think people call themselves 'african-english' or any such foolishness, do they?

[Proteas]

At 1/23/04 12:12 PM, red_skunk wrote: Does anyone else see this in other countries? I don't think people call themselves 'african-english' or any such foolishness, do they?

God, I hope not.

This is something that aggravates me quite a bit though. Why is it someone of ethnic descent, born in America, chooses to hyphenate what they are with the country of their parents origin? Like "African American" or "Irish American". Isn't being just an American enough to distinguish you from everyone else?

If I tried something like this with myself, it wouldn't even be funny. My ancestors are from all over Europe, it would be to damn difficult to hyphenate what I am, so I just say "American," becuase that's what I was born as.

[bumcheekcity]

At 1/23/04 12:12 PM, red_skunk wrote: Does anyone else see this in other countries? I don't think people call themselves 'african-english' or any such foolishness, do they?

Nah, they just call themselves 'black'

[RedSkunk]

At 1/24/04 04:17 PM, bumcheekcity wrote:

At 1/23/04 12:12 PM, red_skunk wrote: Does anyone else see this in other countries? I don't think people call themselves 'african-english' or any such foolishness, do they?

Nah, they just call themselves 'black'

Thought so.

And Proteas - I gave my answer for why. We have this insane urge to be individuals.

[bumcheekcity]

At 1/24/04 04:08 PM, Proteas wrote: This is something that aggravates me quite a bit though. Why is it someone of ethnic descent, born in America, chooses to hyphenate what they are with the country of their parents origin? Like "African American" or "Irish American". Isn't being just an American enough to distinguish you from everyone else?

Not when there are 300,000,000 Americans in the world, and when you say 'American' everyone connects it with the word 'redneck'. Sad but true.

[JoS]

In my exam today I had to write a couple sentences and two examples for both PC and censorship. So I used the KKK being white-race enthusists, the dog statue in the park for PC. For censorship I used Mein Kompf being pulled from Chapters (corperate censorship) and I forget the other thing I used .