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At 5/29/09 05:01 PM, The-Great-One wrote:

At 5/29/09 10:06 AM, kRaZyAzN wrote: I hope you have learned much today.

Well yeah I tend to play Brawl with Items on. That's because when I play with my friends they want items on, I could do without, but hey they're there for fun.

That's perfectly fine. All in good fun right? But items affect the gameplay too much so you can't compare with characters are better or worse while playing with them.

Also you say some characters are good and some are bad and it depends on the stage. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that considered balanced?

That's not really what I meant. Some characters are better than others, without a doubt. But the stage CAN make a difference.

But some characters benefit on more stages than other characters do, etc.

And some characters fare better against some characters than others.

I love SSBB , i have all trophies w00t, but SSb4 is never gonna be on DS, it is not powafoool enuff mofoing fool, but it does need:
More characters
A Character Editor
A less limited Stage editor
More alternate costumes like the Blood Falcon and Dark Link in Brawl but it shouuld say there proper name at the bottom and maybe have different final smashes

At 5/30/09 11:19 AM, kRaZyAzN wrote: That's not really what I meant. Some characters are better than others, without a doubt. But the stage CAN make a difference.

But some characters benefit on more stages than other characters do, etc.

And some characters fare better against some characters than others.

So in a way it's balanced, however it's not the balance you're looking for. Gold is not on both sides of the scales, but gold and brass.

At 5/30/09 04:48 PM, The-Great-One wrote:

At 5/30/09 11:19 AM, kRaZyAzN wrote: That's not really what I meant. Some characters are better than others, without a doubt. But the stage CAN make a difference.

But some characters benefit on more stages than other characters do, etc.

And some characters fare better against some characters than others.

So in a way it's balanced, however it's not the balance you're looking for. Gold is not on both sides of the scales, but gold and brass.

Do you understand what I mean by "balanced"? I mean, every character has a fighting chance against other characters. But take this.

Metaknight has ZERO bad stages and ZERO bad matchups.

Whereas Captain Falcon has very very few good matchups.

At 5/26/09 09:13 PM, Celtic-Tiger wrote:

At 5/26/09 07:16 AM, Sawdust wrote: Brawl on the PS3.

Discuss.

I disagree. Super Smash Brothers would work best on the Xbox 360.
-Great hardcore audience, who have grown up with Nintendo characters
-Better Graphics. Sure, that's not what it's about, but Brawl still looks ugly and pixelated.
-Far, far, far better multiplayer. This is where SMB SHOULD be. Where it will REALLY shine.
-Downloadable content. Like the characters you can fight as? Would you like more? Yes you would.
-Will use a controller that actually feels good to fight with.

No
Also i say if there is another SSB all i want it no clones (Ganondorf is an exception), a bit more characters (like Megaman for example why the hell wasn't he in brawl) and the story mode to be a bit wider (but i have to say subspace emissary was pretty damn amazing IMO) and to not remove characters from the previous game, keep em there damn it.
I do feel there is a higher chance for a new SSB but i know it wont be released until the next new home console from nintendo is released.

At 5/31/09 07:30 AM, kRaZyAzN wrote: Whereas Captain Falcon has very very few good matchups.

Actually, he has no good matchups, and no good stages.

At 5/31/09 02:36 PM, verycoolguy wrote:

At 5/31/09 07:30 AM, kRaZyAzN wrote: Whereas Captain Falcon has very very few good matchups.

Actually, he has no good matchups, and no good stages.

He goes even with himself ;)

Hmm... even bf isn't considered "good" for falcon?

At 5/31/09 02:46 PM, kRaZyAzN wrote:

At 5/31/09 02:36 PM, verycoolguy wrote:

At 5/31/09 07:30 AM, kRaZyAzN wrote: Whereas Captain Falcon has very very few good matchups.

Actually, he has no good matchups, and no good stages.

He goes even with himself ;)

Hmm... even bf isn't considered "good" for falcon?

Well, who doesn't utilize Battlefield better than him?

At 5/31/09 07:30 AM, kRaZyAzN wrote: Do you understand what I mean by "balanced"? I mean, every character has a fighting chance against other characters. But take this.

Oh! Then I say your logic if flawed and I will say that each and every character does have a fighting chance against other characters. I say that they are all balanced however it depends upon the player. I've played as Meta Knight, and I suck with Meta Knight so no matter the stage or match I end up in 3rd or 4th. I'm decent with Captain Falcon and I can own most matches and most stages with him.

Now then it may be your term of balance and your misunderstanding of characters, but I believe that the entire roster is balanced and I doubt you could change my mind.

Also I have been going through this thread and as for a Super Smash Bros. game on the DSi there is in no way that you're going to be seeing that any time soon.

At 5/31/09 07:03 PM, The-Great-One wrote:

At 5/31/09 07:30 AM, kRaZyAzN wrote: Do you understand what I mean by "balanced"? I mean, every character has a fighting chance against other characters. But take this.

Oh! Then I say your logic if flawed and I will say that each and every character does have a fighting chance against other characters. I say that they are all balanced however it depends upon the player. I've played as Meta Knight, and I suck with Meta Knight so no matter the stage or match I end up in 3rd or 4th. I'm decent with Captain Falcon and I can own most matches and most stages with him.

Now then it may be your term of balance and your misunderstanding of characters, but I believe that the entire roster is balanced and I doubt you could change my mind.

*sigh* Yes, individual player skill plays a huge role, but let's leave that alone for now. Let's say, two evenly matched players skill wise play a match. One is Falcon, one is Metaknight. Metaknight wins without a doubt.

But humans aren't Robots so we can't expect for this to always happen. But the day a falcon main beat m2k (in a tourney set), I would...laugh.

SSB for the DS would make every PSP fanboy explode because they have a shitty "Nut that you can play outside" while the rest of us have "OMGWTFPWNAGE ROFLCOPTOR OF WIN" on our handheld than we can play also play "outside"

At 5/24/09 01:14 PM, SeanJon10 wrote: Besides newcomers what would be in a ssb4
I say:
DS

The fuck?

At 5/31/09 07:45 PM, kRaZyAzN wrote: *sigh* Yes, individual player skill plays a huge role, but let's leave that alone for now. Let's say, two evenly matched players skill wise play a match. One is Falcon, one is Metaknight. Metaknight wins without a doubt.

That is not always true, this is the last I'm saying of this, I do not wish for you to reply. You can keep talking yourself in circles. A good player playing as Captain Falcon can beat a good player playing as Meta Knight, I should know I've done it before.

A character creator would completely unbalance the game, or at least make it really stupid.

I hope Paper Mario and Bowser Jr. will be in it. In that case, I'm probably gonna main Bowser Jr.

A portable Smash Bros. is a double-edged sword. If the characters were sprites, the game would speed up to the point where it doesn't feel like Smash anymore. If they were 3D models, I have trouble believing that the scope of its 4-player stages could be captured on a smaller screen. We all lose at least a little.

Handheld:
HELL NOOOO!!!!
Console:
GREAATTT!!!

Although some characters from other games beyond Nintendo should be added, my own opinion should appear in the 4 or as some people call it Coliseum, it should be Megaman, some from Castlevania series, and more bosses in game, and they should change moves from some characters like Zelda, where is her sword? or Snake SOCOM? (jeez i always wanted that gun in Brawl) etc.

BTW what if by just mere luck appeared Pico XD

Don't even try to say Raiden as a character in the 4...

At 6/1/09 03:06 PM, The-Great-One wrote: That is not always true, this is the last I'm saying of this, I do not wish for you to reply. You can keep talking yourself in circles. A good player playing as Captain Falcon can beat a good player playing as Meta Knight, I should know I've done it before.

You neither your opponent are good players, just people flicking the CStick when you want a quick hit.

At 5/31/09 07:30 AM, kRaZyAzN wrote:

Metaknight has ZERO bad stages and ZERO bad matchups.

doesn't he have trouble with diddy and olimar?

i haven't followed brawl in a long time, though. people need to move on from the metaknight ban discussions shit.

At 6/2/09 03:06 AM, MAYORMCHEESE wrote:

At 5/31/09 07:30 AM, kRaZyAzN wrote:

Metaknight has ZERO bad stages and ZERO bad matchups.

doesn't he have trouble with diddy and olimar?

i haven't followed brawl in a long time, though. people need to move on from the metaknight ban discussions shit.

Everyone already move passed those discussions. Metaknight still soft counters Diddy, and he OWNS Olimar, in the air.
Meta Knight won't be banned anytime soon because it's been proven that the best Meta Knight, Mew2king can be beaten even by the likes of Ice Climbers, and Meta Knight banned tournaments do not have much different results than normal tournaments.
There have also been infinites/locks/grab release chaingrabs that have been discovered recently and Meta Knight becomes a huge victim to all of those. Once people master those Meta Knight won't be that godly anymore.

Besides tournament play, SSB4 should have a mini adventure mode like Melee, like a 20 minute arcade, instead of one long adventure that involves save states.

At 6/1/09 06:35 PM, verycoolguy wrote: You neither your opponent are good players, just people flicking the CStick when you want a quick hit.

I never use the C-Stick. It's cheap to use the C-Stick.

At 6/2/09 02:44 PM, The-Great-One wrote:

I never use the C-Stick. It's cheap to use the C-Stick.

I use the Wiimote-nunchuck combo.

At 5/31/09 11:01 AM, ifureadthisdie wrote:

No
, a bit more characters (like Megaman for example why the hell wasn't he in brawl)

Because he's not a Nintendo character.

At 6/2/09 06:24 PM, Crink wrote:

At 5/31/09 11:01 AM, ifureadthisdie wrote:

No
, a bit more characters (like Megaman for example why the hell wasn't he in brawl)

Because he's not a Nintendo character.

Ok dude, first of all Sonic wasnt a nintendo character and neither was snake but nintendo put them in brawl. I agree 100% megaman should be in brawl. I know that he evolved into different consoles like ps2 and xbox, but the first segment of his games were on the nintendo and super nintendo. He use to be a nintendo mascot. Hope nintendo can fit in the following characters.
~Megaman
~Pacman (if namco and nintendo unite)
~Waluigi (So wario has a partner)
~Koopa Troopa (just seems like a good idea)
Thats all for now. Tell me what characters you had in mind for the next smash bros game.

I agreed with everything you said. And when I say everything, I mean "DS".

Why do you want to fight with your Miis? You've got Nintendo's all starts duking it out, then a poorly made representation of yourself. Yawn.

Less items? You're fucking kidding me right. Half the game is the items. It'd be pointless without the Smash Ball struggles, fleeing from the bastard who picks up the Gold hammer, laughing when it turns out to be a rubber one.

And Subspace Emissary provided a simple story that blended together the characters no more than they needed to be. Pikachu and Samus make a great team apparently.

At 5/31/09 11:01 AM, ifureadthisdie wrote:

~Pacman (if namco and nintendo unite)
~Koopa Troopa (just seems like a good idea)

Pac-man and Koopa-Troopa? Why don't you just put in Duke Nuke'em and Kratos?
Actually now that I think about Duke and Kratos...?

At 6/22/09 09:38 AM, MasterBalls wrote: I agreed with everything you said. And when I say everything, I mean "DS".

Why do you want to fight with your Miis? You've got Nintendo's all starts duking it out, then a poorly made representation of yourself. Yawn.

Less items? You're fucking kidding me right. Half the game is the items. It'd be pointless without the Smash Ball struggles, fleeing from the bastard who picks up the Gold hammer, laughing when it turns out to be a rubber one.

And Subspace Emissary provided a simple story that blended together the characters no more than they needed to be. Pikachu and Samus make a great team apparently.

Didn't stop me from being bored and confused throughout SSE.

They need a good story mode where you actually know WHY this and that were happening. Some voice acting would be appreciated, and maybe multiple endings depending on the outcome.

In the next Smash Bros. if you trip, you'll take damage, Captain Falcon's falcon punch will take 30 seconds to charge and have a high chance of one hit KO recoil. Sonic and Snake won't be in it, they'll be replaced with Stafy and a Mii. Lucario will be replaced with Marowak. They'll also introduce a few fanmade characters such as Jigglybomb and Melda (The bastard son of Mario and Zelda). The level editor will only have a blocks and spikes. The afinal boss of the adventure mode will be the dude from Geist. Characters will have their own weapons, for example Luigi will have a poltergust 3000, Mario will have the FLUDD.

At 6/22/09 03:52 PM, Chdonga wrote: In the next Smash Bros. if you trip, you'll take damage,

That's just fucking pathetic.

Captain Falcon's falcon punch will take 30 seconds to charge and have a high chance of one hit KO recoil.

FALCO PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUU...NCH!

Sonic and Snake won't be in it, they'll be replaced with Stafy and a Mii.

Snake? Snake? Why is Snake going to be removed?

Lucario will be replaced with Marowak. They'll also introduce a few fanmade characters such as Jigglybomb and Melda (The bastard son of Mario and Zelda).

I'm sorry, WHAT? MELDA? Don't you mean Pario? Since when were Mario and Zelda in it with each eathother? Next think you know, we'll have Leach.

This game will suck.

At 6/22/09 04:50 PM, HecticCircleCrap wrote:

At 6/22/09 03:52 PM, Chdonga wrote: In the next Smash Bros. if you trip, you'll take damage,

That's just fucking pathetic.

Which reminds me, you can't jump through platforms and you can't hang on ledges anymore

Sonic and Snake won't be in it, they'll be replaced with Stafy and a Mii.

Snake? Snake? Why is Snake going to be removed?

Because when they removed Sonic, SEGA got butthurt.

Lucario will be replaced with Marowak. They'll also introduce a few fanmade characters such as Jigglybomb and Melda (The bastard son of Mario and Zelda).

I'm sorry, WHAT? MELDA? Next think you know, we'll have Leach.

Don't you mean Ganondeach?