Satan

[wtb]

IF there is a hell, I'm not really afraid of it. Only because I Don't understand why In Christianity, Satan would punish some one who Did something he probably would have done or has already done himself. That would make him a hypocrite. Don't you think he would be trying to use you against God? Or maybe he doesn't really care what you do. Satan just has his own way of doing things, Satan didn't like Gods way, so he left. We do that to each other. That doesn't mean that he wants to rip us apart for all eternity. I don't know NG, its confusing.
All I'm saying is that I don't think it would be too bad hangin' with Satan.

So do you think If you go to hell you get punished or is it just a time to hang out?

[norcemastero]

SPOILER ALERT
there is no hell

[wtb]

At 5/23/09 02:12 AM, norcemastero wrote: SPOILER ALERT
there is no hell

That's what the IF is for. AND that's why i beat kids.

[DjBliss]

i think ur one sick twisted fuck.....

[AndrewGlisson13]

At 5/23/09 02:10 AM, wtb wrote: So do you think If you go to hell you get punished or is it just a time to hang out?

According to the common view of hell, it is probably just a time to hang out. However, according to Dante Alighieri's view of hell, it certainly is not.

[horror41]

I wish i was satan.that would be fun. if i was satan, I could do whatever hedonistic pleasure i wanted.

[Penrodeo]

If the concept of Satan was real, he wouldn't give a fuck about being hypocritical. He's immortal and gets off by torture and burning. You're still going to be a ball of fire in a lake of lava, no matter how hypocritical he'd be.

[Hedzshot01]

Hell, Heaven, Satan and God are all beliefs and have yet to be proven that any of them exist, but the fear of satan simply comes from our deepest fears, of knowing that we dont know he exists.

[HandsomePete]

I have to agree, why would Satan punish those who do his work? One of the many plotholes in Christianity.

[yurgenburgen]

At 5/23/09 02:10 AM, wtb wrote: So do you think If you go to hell you get punished or is it just a time to hang out?

The idea of it is this: Satan is evil, and likes nothing more than causing pain. It doesn't matter whether the person he's hurting is just as evil, Satan still has power and authority over that person, and so he will use that opportunity to cause pain and misery.

But, since hell doesn't exist, we don't have to worry about any of that shit. Just be a good person in your short time on earth,

[LinkSilvermane]

Here's what it boils down to:

Heaven = Immediate proximity to God = Eternal Bliss

Earth = place where one's actions can get you either closer or farther from God = lesser degree of Bliss, at the least

Hell = Complete lack of God's presence or influence = Eternal Torment.

Going to Hell isn't about getting pitchforks jammed into your ass. It's about not being allowed into God's House (a.k.a. Heaven), which means losing the only thing that truly makes you happy.

Satan's already there. He knows there's no way out, no means by which to be happy EVER again.

So what does he do?

He tries to get even with God.

How? By tempting His children to the point of having them renounce Him completely. Which of course makes Him suffer.

Also, there's simply nothing better for a bad mood than spreading it around. Same goes for eternal suffering, it seems.

[jinxworld70]

At 5/23/09 02:12 AM, norcemastero wrote: SPOILER ALERT
there is no hell

I chuckle at your pitiful attempts to escape the truth...

[Vinnyy]

And he probably even punishes his own worshippers.

The Satanists.

[RaptorJesus]

"Satan didn't like Gods way, so he left" So what you're saying is Satan is a lot like America?

I never looked at it that way but Satan is pretty American in that way, he was George Washington before George was!

[BringMeTheDarkness]

I always thought the idea of hell was very paradoxical. It is the place that has a complete lack of God, yet if God created Hell, how can it lack his presence. For is not God present in all of his creation?

[Proottalfain]

At 6/26/09 09:15 PM, LinkSilvermane wrote: Hell = Complete lack of God's presence or influence = Eternal Torment.

Isn't God meant to be ubiquitous?

[physicsman09]

At 6/26/09 09:48 PM, mrgreg846 wrote: "Satan didn't like Gods way, so he left" So what you're saying is Satan is a lot like America?

I never looked at it that way but Satan is pretty American in that way, he was George Washington before George was!

I'll assume that God imposed the Stamp Tax on Satan? And taxation without representation? Also terrible rights to the criminals? No free speech? No freedom of assembly?

They are two entirely different events, one is written down in history, the other in theology, it is completely impossible to compare them.

Also, Satan left because he wanted power for himself, Washington rebelled because he wanted freedom for his people.

There's a big difference.

[BringMeTheDarkness]

At 6/26/09 10:18 PM, Eggys wrote:

At 6/26/09 08:58 PM, Chymeraxe wrote: If the concept of Satan was real, he wouldn't give a fuck about being hypocritical. He's immortal and gets off by torture and burning. You're still going to be a ball of fire in a lake of lava, no matter how hypocritical he'd be.

Not really. He'd be helping God's supposed cause through encouraging people to be good through fear of being tortured.

Yea, its kinda like the story of Iobe. Satan tortured him and God turned a blind eye to test Iobe's faith.

yea, they are both dicks.

[LinkSilvermane]

At 6/26/09 09:56 PM, Proottalfain wrote:
Isn't God meant to be ubiquitous?

He is.

What I meant to say is, according to us Catholics, the warmth of his "touch", of his devine influence, is completely gone when you're in Hell.

Which is just as bad as him not being there at all. If not worse.

At 6/26/09 09:41 PM, VinnyXY wrote: And he probably even punishes his own worshippers.

The Satanists.

Not sure if you're trolling, going to assume that you're sincere.

Satanism has pretty much nothing to do with praying to Satan. It's more about having no inhibitions and despizing the weak and all that.

[HellScion]

I believe there IS a Hell, but not in the traditional sense of "fire & brimestone" or "eternal damnation." Hell is, from my own understanding, the worst of any human belief; the prospect of life after death is non-existant. Wouldn't that be a true Hell? There being nothing after you die? No God, no Satan, non-existance? But like I said, that is my opinion. Consider me to be the unorthodox athiest: I don't believe in life after death, but I don't worship the fact that we'll become ferilizer for Earth's fucking forests.

[Punkboyben]

At 6/26/09 09:48 PM, mrgreg846 wrote: "Satan didn't like Gods way, so he left" So what you're saying is Satan is a lot like America?

I never looked at it that way but Satan is pretty American in that way, he was George Washington before George was!

We have a cookie-cutter politician in the making here. Why don't you run along and write and album with Serj Tankian?

[RaptorJesus]

At 6/26/09 10:43 PM, Punkboyben wrote: We have a cookie-cutter politician in the making here. Why don't you run along and write and album with Serj Tankian?

Sure whatever. Serj sucks without the rest of System.

At 6/26/09 10:06 PM, physicsman09 wrote: Also, Satan left because he wanted power for himself, Washington rebelled because he wanted freedom for his people.

There's a big difference.

No, you just have no imagination

[yurgenburgen]

Their explanation is that god is punishing you for your sins by sending you to hell. Satan might torture you or whatever, but ultimately it's god's decision whether you end up there or not.

But since none of that shit exists, there's no need to worry about it.

[RobbyPaulLul]

satan is my bff, homie.

[theshadowwolf]

I laugh at the fact that there are actual christfags coming here to preach what they know. There is not hell.

I like the point that Satan is like America.

[Dgp15]

At 6/26/09 09:15 PM, LinkSilvermane wrote: Here's what it boils down to:

Heaven = Immediate proximity to God = Eternal Bliss

Earth = place where one's actions can get you either closer or farther from God = lesser degree of Bliss, at the least

Hell = Complete lack of God's presence or influence = Eternal Torment.

Going to Hell isn't about getting pitchforks jammed into your ass. It's about not being allowed into God's House (a.k.a. Heaven), which means losing the only thing that truly makes you happy.

Satan's already there. He knows there's no way out, no means by which to be happy EVER again.

So what does he do?

He tries to get even with God.

How? By tempting His children to the point of having them renounce Him completely. Which of course makes Him suffer.

Also, there's simply nothing better for a bad mood than spreading it around. Same goes for eternal suffering, it seems.

This. Except from what I understand, Satan is on Earth. He wont actually be cast into Hell until after the battle of Armageddon. But anyway, he wont be doing the punishing.

[Affaze]

At 5/23/09 02:12 AM, norcemastero wrote: SPOILER ALERT
there is no hell

I request proof.

[kevmcg]

Hope you like Pineapple.

[Drugged]

666.