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At 5/19/09 08:07 PM, Christopherr wrote: No, it isn't. However, if a pedophile watches pedophilic hentai, his urges are being nurtured, which would most likely lead to a higher chance of him committing the actual crime.

I would say the exact opposite.

say for the sake of arguement, haveing sex with women was illegal and so was having/looking at porn containing women in a sexual a manner. Your urge to sex with women would probaly grow , becuase your urges wern't being satisfied.

but even if what you say was true, why not apply the same logic to violent video games or movies.

At 5/19/09 08:07 PM, Christopherr wrote:

At 5/19/09 07:56 PM, fatape wrote:

At 5/19/09 06:13 PM, RydiaLockheart wrote: I'm of the opinion it's not. And if this type of hentai is in the hands of a previous offender, then I have to agree that it's probably being used to satisfy pedophilic urges.

should being a pedophile in and of itself be illegal?

No, it isn't. However, if a pedophile watches pedophilic hentai, his urges are being nurtured, which would most likely lead to a higher chance of him committing the actual crime.

Possibly yes, but it may also be argued that it could satisfy those urges in a nondestructive way. So as long as no child is actually hurt or endangered by it they can do what they want and watch what they want. And yes real child porn does damage the child, animated however no children were hurt unless the artised used a model. I may think you're a sexuall degenerate, but as long as no children are hurt, I don't give a shit. I still wouldn't leave my kid with them though.

bad troll is bad

also hentai is purposefully made to be pornographic thus: you gotta be 18 bitch!

I think he's right. What might look like 2 naked furries girls having sex to an 18 year old, make look like a fallen tree leaning up against another.

Your logic is flawed

At 5/19/09 08:07 PM, Christopherr wrote: No, it isn't. However, if a pedophile watches pedophilic hentai, his urges are being nurtured, which would most likely lead to a higher chance of him committing the actual crime.

OR, not saying i necessarily agree with it, but I could make the argument that pedophillic hentai serves as an outlet for the pedoophile's desires, thus reducing the chance that he/she will feel the need to act on them in an inappropriate way.

At 5/22/09 10:03 PM, SadisticMonkey wrote:
OR, not saying i necessarily agree with it, but I could make the argument that pedophillic hentai serves as an outlet for the pedoophile's desires, thus reducing the chance that he/she will feel the need to act on them in an inappropriate way.

I would argue that all porn is addictive in nature, is presented in a destructive manner, and is anything but nurturing.

Its plain destructive.

Think about it, instead of being out in the world, sharing your thoughts with society, being an assertive component of your species, you are instead closed off, and shut. Immersed in fantasy.

This applies to all porn of course, but I think hentai obviously takes it up a notch. Which is GREAT. I mean, you could also make the argument that since its so silly its not as bad as normal porn. Which has been done no doubt.

But I fear that all such things effect your brain, and I think the key here is moderation, and the person's own virtue.

If a pedophile jacks off everyday to the shit it won't be as helpful as him setting time aside and doing it only when he/she really needs to.

At 5/22/09 10:29 PM, JackPhantasm wrote: Think about it, instead of being out in the world, sharing your thoughts with society, being an assertive component of your species, you are instead closed off, and shut. Immersed in fantasy.

I'd say that that's just as, if not more applicable to, say, World of Warcraft.

At 5/22/09 10:54 PM, SadisticMonkey wrote:
I'd say that that's just as, if not more applicable to, say, World of Warcraft.

Well yea but I didn't want to go into that cuz of the topic. But if you want to be my guest.

I myself totally agree that video games can be COMPLETELY the same as porn as far as level so of addiction/separation go.

At 5/19/09 04:35 PM, Cyan60 wrote: I think its time someone said something...
You shouldnt have to be over/at 18 in order to buy hentai,
know why?
Because it's just a series of lines that seem to form an image that resembles to eye of the viewer whatever is showed.

Video porn is just a bunch of pixels clustered together to form an image.

Having sex with someone in real life is just visual receptors (eyes) that capture visual information along with physical sensors on the skin that capture tactual information and then transmit it to the brain, which causes chemical reactions...

So yeah, by that standard everything is OK. Everyone should do whatever they want.

At 5/23/09 09:40 AM, Alphabit wrote: in real life is just visual receptors (eyes) that capture visual information along with physical sensors on the skin that capture tactual information

How do we know whats REAL Neo? If real is what you can feel, smell, taste and see, then 'real' is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain..........

Hentai iz bad for the children let Tom charge for now on

Wrong forum. But I agree. Porn is just a series of images. But as long as there is religion, there will be these stupid ass restrictions.

At 5/22/09 10:29 PM, JackPhantasm wrote:

At 5/22/09 10:03 PM, SadisticMonkey wrote:

I would argue that all porn is addictive in nature, is presented in a destructive manner, and is anything but nurturing.

Its plain destructive.

Think about it, instead of being out in the world, sharing your thoughts with society, being an assertive component of your species, you are instead closed off, and shut. Immersed in fantasy.

This applies to all porn of course, but I think hentai obviously takes it up a notch. Which is GREAT. I mean, you could also make the argument that since its so silly its not as bad as normal porn. Which has been done no doubt.

But I fear that all such things effect your brain, and I think the key here is moderation, and the person's own virtue.

If a pedophile jacks off everyday to the shit it won't be as helpful as him setting time aside and doing it only when he/she really needs to.

Surely you must be know to the idea that everything in human life is destructive in its own sense to human life in generall, the only so much as slightest feeling of likeness to even consider bringing about new life in some weird idea that there is beauty of the moment when all there is, is a feeling of joy, joy and pride, only with those qualities do we instill a new generation of people, people destined to experience both the good and the bad. And thus you seal ones fate in such an odd manner.

Now far be it for me too not critisize such ideas, but It wouldnt kill us all if stores would carry hentai under the cash register and offered them to all who asked.

Virtue is as man defines it, for It is populary defined that god is a man of inifinite intelligence and wisdom... so that must mean that we can comprehend what could have been possibly been defined before us.

Every second of our life we perform what we would do is what we would think.
Every second of our life we begin to slip more and more into what is known as the darkness.
Having an infinite darkness in the afterlife isnt as bad as it sounds. Rather that than paranoia.

At 5/23/09 07:53 PM, RadioactiveRabbit wrote: Mommy won't let you come on her TV screen?

heheh,
very funny.

Whether or not someone is permitted to look at pornographic images should be decided by one... the parent, and two, the organization that supplies the pornographic images. The parents have every right to keep their child from watching that stuff, naturally, (And they probably should) and given private property rights, the person that supplies the lewd imagery is within his right to set the terms for visage.

Since most of the people who think that the government should make certain things illegal at a particular age are conservative, I pose this question to you.

is not this kind of ban an extension of the 'father knows best' state? If you think about something similar in nature to this kind of thing. Every parent should make sure that their child is eating a healthy diet, and it would be wrong for a child not do, likewise it would probably damage the health of any child that didn't. Is it the role of the government to make sure that childeren are eating their vegetables?

Don't take this the wrong way. I really can't think of any legitimate reason why anyone under the age of maybe 16 should or would be looking at that kind of stuff. But that's not the point, the point is whether it's the government's job to make sure that people are doing the right kind of thing.

After all, regimentation of human behavior seems more like something that a progressive would do.

Naked is an European invention. In warmer climates, (where they don't worship goat fucking, sister fucking, child beating, virgin raping, homophobic Gods) Nudity is a way to not burn to death. Cold blooded animals do not respect the laws of clothing manufacture and use.

It is like I always say, "Don't grab your sister's whether she has pants on or not!"

Sadly, the only one who seems to hear me is myself. I say this.... a lot.

At 6/4/09 12:34 PM, EggSnake wrote: Naked is an European invention. In warmer climates, (where they don't worship goat fucking, sister fucking, child beating, virgin raping, homophobic Gods) Nudity is a way to not burn to death.

So I take that means we have the religious fanatics to thank for clothes. At least give us that!

At 5/19/09 04:35 PM, Cyan60 wrote: I think its time someone said something...
You shouldnt have to be over/at 18 in order to buy hentai,
know why?
Because it's just a series of lines that seem to form an image that resembles to eye of the viewer whatever is showed.
So by moral technicallity it is perfectly all right for any age to buy, oh and also the same applies for hentai movies.... yes, there are hentai movies.

Just because it's hand drawn and animated doesn't mean it's not still porn. Have you ever watched any hentai clips? It's perfectly clear to me most of the shit they put out would be too traumatic for kids. Don't get me wrong, I say it's perfectly okay for kids and teens to satisfy their own curiosity, but we have to set limits. When it comes to tentacles going in places they shouldn't, S&M and rape is where we must draw the line with what they should NOT be seeing for the first time.

Have you ever thought of something? Hentai, porn or whatever, even a 7-year old can get it as long as he has a little brains and this little thing called: I-N-T-E-R-N-E-T C-O-N-N-C-T-I-O-N. Come on man, this whole 18- year old limit on porn is stupid. People can get it anyway, they will get it anyway. Actually, stores that sell things with age limit doesn't care. Video game stores sell Left 4 Dead to 12-year olds for crying out loud. Who cares if they take away the 18-year old limit on hentai, people are gonna get it anyway.

At 6/7/09 07:52 AM, Rayfram3 wrote: Come on man, this whole 18- year old limit on porn is stupid. People can get it anyway, they will get it anyway. Actually, stores that sell things with age limit doesn't care. Who cares if they take away the 18-year old limit on hentai, people are gonna get it anyway.

Why is rape illegal? I mean, men do it anyways!

mmm...
why in politics section? o_O

At 5/19/09 07:04 PM, SadisticMonkey wrote: There's enough free stuff readily avaliable on the internet anyway.

Yes, exactly. You can search for free hentai on Google and find pages of it immediately.

sick

We dont need a whole bunch of thought for this,
Really the fact that its not living people involved is reason enough to say,
The people like it, they wanna buy it, lets sell it.
Nothing around you can hurt you, unless you have some sort of pain for there to be felt.
Being set on fire hurts because your flesh is melting of your skin.
Being shuned hurts because you feel rejected/ a possible negative emotion, by the people around you.
These are really common things that would hurt a person, by opinion.
But their are people who do find some slight joy in this, ie: Pyrophilliacs, and antisocial people.
and guess what? Hentai falls in the middle because we all know why... and to limit this sort of thing with age speculations is nothing but a cold hearted law that doesn't follow by morall correctly.

Awww, did mommy catch you fapping to tentacool wape?

At 5/19/09 04:40 PM, Patton3 wrote: It's still porn, even if it's animated. And tell me, how is this political?

only under defintion of porn is hentai porn, but it is also art, and I dont belive any art should be censored. So for me this is quite the query.

I personally think this website would be better without hentia, or any other kind of porn. But i won't complain cuz it doesn't effect me at all. all i have to do is not watch it. but how it's always on the top list makes me worry a little bit....

At 6/11/09 03:14 PM, GoronMaster wrote:

At 5/19/09 04:40 PM, Patton3 wrote: It's still porn, even if it's animated. And tell me, how is this political?

only under defintion of porn is hentai porn, but it is also art, and I dont belive any art should be censored. So for me this is quite the query.

I agree. As a professional artist I will defend to the death all art forms no matter how controversial. The one thing I cannot abide in any media outlet even more so than the republican bias is censorship. You wanna do a whole lotta crazy shit in an animated media in which anything is possible, do it! And to anyone who doesn't like it? FUCK 'EM!