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Posted at: 5/12/09 05:31 PM

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Welcome to the NG Geocaching Crew!

This is a gathering point for anyone who is an active geocacher, or who wants to learn more about this very cool hobby.

Please take a look at my FAQ (second post) before stumbling in and asking basic questions.

===+=== WHAT IS GEOCACHING? ===+===

Put simply, people are hiding little treasures all over the world and posting their map coordinates online. You use a GPS device to find these treasures and once you do, you sign their logbook, trade items if applicable, and then rehide the cache for the next person. You keep track of all your finds online. Please visit: http://www.geocaching.com to learn more!

===+=== CREW ORGANIZATION ===+===

There will be no strict memberships here. Anyone can "join" and partake in the flow of conversation. I will ask you to post your Geocaching username if you have one, so others can see how you're doing. It's not mandatory, but it would be cool. My girlfriend and I cache under a single username, which is the same one as her NG name: TropicalParadise.

===+=== WHAT TO POST ABOUT ===+===

General geocaching conversation is the gist of what we're aiming for, but there are many specific topics you can choose from. Here are some suggestions:

- Stories about particular finds: Did you go on a huge hike? Did you find a really cleverly hidden cache? Or maybe you spent an hour looking for one only to realize you were 20 feet off? Share your caching adventures!

- Ideas for hiding caches: Do you have a cool idea for a series? A particular puzzle cache? How to build a nifty container or construct wicked camouflage?

- Pictures of your finds / adventures. You can upload all the photos you want onto your geocaching account, but share some here too! Many caches bring you to very beautiful areas on purpose, so please share what you've discovered.

- Screenshots of your local cache map. The map is Google based and is accessed through the geocaching.com website. Show us how saturated/sparse your hometown is!

- Questions. Ask questions if you're not sure about stuff. I will try and field all your inquiries, but please take a gander at the FAQ before you do as many popular topics will be covered there.

===+=== RULES ===+===

Standard BBS rules, of course.

Geocaching does generate numerical stats. While it's cool to commemorate a milestone and such, don't just post "found one today" or "up to 35 finds now" without sharing some of the experience with us. I don't want this to turn into a stat thread.

If people are asking questions hat ARE covered in the FAQ or being generally noobish, help them sincerely or don't post. The spirit of geocaching is based on light family fun, and I really don't want anyone to associate it with anger and hostility.

===+=== LINKS ===+===

Main Geocaching website: http://geocaching.com
General Forum thread about geocaching: http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/9768 84
Getting Started: http://www.geocaching.com/about/
MORE DETAILS: http://www.geocaching.com/resources/
Groundspeak* Forums: http://forums.groundspeak.com/GC/
A GeoCoins (and more) website: http://coinsandpins.com/

*Groundspeak is the company that owns the GeoCaching site.

Picture: Cache Map of our city (Halifax), April 2009.

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I highly advise reading this page: http://www.geocaching.com/about/
And then, if you don't find the link from the 'about' page, THIS page: http://www.geocaching.com/resources/

Much of my FAQ overlaps with those nicer, better organized pages. =)

===+======+=== FAQ ===+======+=== [POST 1/2]

Q: Sorry, I don't have a GPS, so I guess I'm out, right?

A: WRONG! While a GPS is certainly a standard tool, you can use Google Earth / Maps to find most traditional urban caches. That is how we first started out! Yes, it is more difficult. You must have a nice, detailed satellite picture in the area (it's best to enter the coordinates into GE rather than use the map's satellite view). From there you can use landmarks like 'near the northern end of the path past that smallish building' or 'along the wall by the plot of land that looks like a field.' You'll also have to make good use of the potential hint provided, the cache description and ALL the 'found' logs made by previous cachers.

This is a decent way to test the sport to see if you like it before making an investment in a GPS device.

Q: Alright, so what's it going to cost me?

A: A basic account is 100% free, and you'll have access to all the necessary tools you need to log and hide your own caches.

The GPS device will be your single biggest investment (unless you starting getting hardcore, but let's keep it simple right now). The Garmin eTrex is currently the cheapest GPS handheld that I'm aware of. Retail is usually around $90-$110 CAD, and you can probably find used ones much cheaper (the Garmin site says this model has been discontinued though... but I saw some for sale like a week ago). The Garmin eTrex Legend is the next step up (+$50 or so) and from there you start getting quite expensive. High end models can run over $500.

After you have your account and cheap end GPS, you're essentially all set; there's nothing more you really need. FYI: Geocaches ARE NOT ALLOWED to be placed in areas that you must pay to access.

I will list some other potential costs though:

Travel: If you get hooked and you have a car, be wary of gas costs.
Trackables: GeoCoins and 'Travel Bugs' usually come at a cost to OWN (more about these things later).
Supplies: Things like hiking gear, food for longer woodsy excursions, etc.
Making a cache: If you want to hide a cache, you might end up investing in materials. More on hiding later.
Account upgrade: You can pay a very low annual fee to upgrade your account. I highly recommend this, especially if you're planning on doing this often.

Q: Why should I upgrade my account?

A: It just makes using the site smoother. For the amount you pay it's completely worth it. I'll list some perks I can immediately think of (a full list can be found on the site):

- Ability to filter out finds (very useful when trying to determine what caches are closest without having to scroll endlessly).
- Ability to filter map icons (nice tool for browsing the map, and practical for slower machines because the site doesn't have to run as many queries in order to populate your map).
- Access to 'pocket queries.' These are condensed lists of caches that contain all the info (except for logs) for caches. VERY useful if you want to import large lists into a GPS device as opposed to entering them in by hand and/or as individual files. Pocket queries are also useful for planning excursions, and are used with special programs to generate sexy stat pages with nice graphs (a statwhore's nirvana).
- Access to "Member's Only' caches. This isn't really a popular type of cache... at least not around here. Or maybe I don't notice them? But who knows, there could be an extra 50 caches in your area that will magically appear when you upgrade.

Again, see the GeoCaching site for a complete list.

Q: Okay, I'm set to go find some. How should I go about doing this? What do they even look like?

A: If possible, bring a friend. Caching is about 10000% more interesting and fun when you're with even just one other person.

Caches are (usually) containers ranging in size from a 'micro' (film canister) to 'regular' (ammo can). The in betweens are usually small tupperware containers... Note all the "usually's". Some people get VERY creative. And there are 'large' caches (big tubs, often in the woods), and 'nano' size (unofficial size, generally anything smaller than a film canister. Have fun finding these!). Often the container will be taped up in some fashion if not fully and eloquently camouflaged.

If this is your first cache (or first few) try to pick easier ones. Each cache has a difficulty and terrain rating on its page, ranging from 1 to 5 (1 being easiest). Difficulty refers to the trickiness of the hide and can be based on any number of factors such as camouflage or physical placement. If it is a non-traditional cache (more on these later), the difficulty may also reflect the quality of a riddle or perhaps the complexity of a multi-staged cache. Terrain refers to how difficult it is access "ground zero" (i.e. where the GPS reads "0 metres," i.e. the location). These are determined by the cache hider so there no exact standards (though there are some widely used guidelines for terrain ratings).

Try to be discreet about it, especially if you're doing an urban cache or if you're near a public area. Cachers refer to non-cachers as "muggles" (yes, a Harry Potter reference. Yes, it's incredibly geeky. Take a moment to digest that and let's just move on shall we?) and you should do your best not to attract unwanted attention. If you ever hide a cache you'll realize that you're sort of protective about it, and would like people to respect its secrecy.

That being said, be sure to try and replace the cache exactly as you found it after you've signed its logbook and examined its contents. If you ARE "caught" in the act, the best option is to honestly explain what you're up to. (More people than you think have heard of this). You might even turn someone on to caching! If not, chances are they wont ransack it after you've left (if they're not assholes, that is). You might also want to bring along the sheet that explains geocaching, some people feel better if they see a document explaining what it is, several versions can be found at www.geocaching.com.

Q: Yeah, I was thinking, what if people do find it and trash it? Doesn't this happen a lot?

A: It is not uncommon, especially for urban caches. There's no real security system beyond a) your ability to hide/rehide and b) the honour system of fellow cachers. If you partake in caching and enjoy it, you'll find that the honour system is pretty solid. You need not worry too much about your fellow cachers. What you do need to worry about are kids, drunks, cache noobs and in some cases, animals.

Inevitably, caches will go missing, will be scattered/destroyed, or even defiled. When this happens, usually the next few people who go to look for it will either report it potentially missing or confirmed destroyed. The owner, if they're active, will disable the listing (a gray background appears on the map icon as opposed a white one) and then they will take steps to replace it, or if they so choose, archive the cache (i.e. delete it, but its history/logs will remain; you wont 'lose' finds if a cache you found gets disabled or archived. It will vanish from the map though).

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===+======+=== FAQ ===+======+=== [POST 2/2]

Q: Alright. So if I don't find one, what should I do?

A: Log the Did Not Find (DNF) if you like. Sometimes people just don't log them, but they're useful. Hiders of clever caches enjoy seeing that they stumped people, for one. More importantly, they can be pieces of evidence in a case for a missing cache. If you get 5 DNFs in a row for a cache rated 1.5, then that raises flags. DNFs can be viewed from your own personal account page (but don't worry, the public can't see them ;)) to track ones you need to take another shot at, or to remind you which ones to keep an eye on due to a suspicion that they're gone.

Q: Will you beat me if I don't log all my DNFs?

A: Nope. DNF logging is really a personal preference. We sometimes don't do it if we forget, or if we felt we didn't reaaaallly look for it (maybe just a walk-by). Don't forget, you write a Note for a cache if you want to comment on it - this is chosen from the same drop down menu that you use to log DNFs and finds.

Q: Okay, so I've found a bunch. I wanna HIDE some. What do I do?

A: First, be sure you're willing to maintain it. It's pretty frustrating when an owner takes 6+ months to get around to seeing if their cache really is gone and then another 6+ to replace it.

Second, realize that you can't just go hiding willy-nilly. There's actually a pretty extensive set of rules and guidelines you must abide by (like distance from other caches, private property restrictions, etc.). The system is monitored by Reviewers; they 'publish' ALL caches, i.e. you must go through them for every cache you place.

Third, do a good job. Really. If you just toss a cheap tupperware container into a tree that's kind of lame. You WILL come across these lameoids in your travels and you'll probably forget them soon after finding them.

Fourth: you have to use a GPS to do this. No estimating with Google Earth. Please consult geocaching.com for the guidelines and suggestions/tactics.

Q: So, what are these other types of caches?

http://www.geocaching.com/about/cache_ty pes.aspx <---- check it out!

Q: And you mentioned GeoCoins and 'Travel Bugs'?

A: These are called 'trackables' and are very popular.

Travel Bugs (TBs) are little dog tags that have a special code on them. You attach them to whatever items you like after activating them (and giving them an optional 'mission') then stick them in a cache. When another cacher finds it, they can either just 'discover it' by recording the code and entering into the site later, or they can physically take it with the intent to move it to a different cache. To do this, enter the code as you would when just discovering but select 'retrieved from [cache name]' instead. The TB will be temporarily added to your inventory (viewable from your account page). When you drop the TB off into another cache, when you log the FIND for the CACHE, be sure to also highlight the appropriate TB from your inventory list before submitting the find (if you forget, you can go back and write a Note and 'drop it off' then). Be sure to do this properly, as TBs have their very own page and map that tracks their travels and logs (hence: trackables). It sucks when a some caching noob screws this up and your bug goes AWOL for a long time (or forever).

GeoCoins work in the exact same way, except they're not for attaching to things, they are just coins with a code on them. These come in all shapes and sizes, but they're typically a standard coin shape and around 1 inch in diameter. Coins are much rarer than TBs and can be very, VERY cool. You may be tempted to keep, or even collect ones you find. Do not do this. There's no real 'minimum' time you're allowed to hold onto any trackable, but if you don't move it on you'll start to receive increasingly upset emails about it from the owner.

Coins and TBs can be purchased online, or at events or from independent retailers. You can sometimes score trackables for free in contests or special events. Entrepreneurs can design coins and order in bulk and try to turn a profit.

Q: Anything else?

A: Oh, tons. There's soooo much to do with this hobby. The site, while not being the most user friendly, is chock full of little tools and different search abilities. But I think I've covered the essentials. The rest is for you to learn along the way.

Have fun! And share your adventures in your logs and in this thread!

Picture: Caching in Punta Cana, Dominican Republic (Cache ID: GC1PTQD).

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I want to go caching today or tomorrow because I've got the itch!

I'm #2 in command I suppose, ask me all the questions you desire!

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I would love to join but there is like, 2 near me (one I've already been to) . I might look further around the map, this is something my dad would enjoy doing with me :3

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And that, is how you start a decent club. I'm in, and I already have some future plans for this.

Firstly: try to go find those damn caches I couldn't find previously. I don't care if I'm wasting my time, it was fun anyway.

Secondly (and this is probably more interesting to everyone here): If I go to the London summer meet, I'll be seeing how much stuff I can find when I'm down there, too.

Stories and/or pics (if I remember to take them) to come. =D


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I remember finding two caches before, and they weren't very challenging; Unfortunately, I didn't take any pictures of them, but one was on a funnel from a necroterium, and the other was hidden on a crack within a stone wall.

However, coincidentially, i'm going to seek for this cache this friday and possibly this one with a couple of friends. There's also this one close to those two, but it's on a motherfucking mountain and I don't have the proper equipment.


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Ah, thanks for the PM Zerok. I'll stop by every now and then, but it won't probably be a club that I'm very active in. I have only went once and I actually didn't find it. It seemed like it would be easy enough, but I was in a hurry around the time so I might stop by and see if it's there again.

To be honest I can't remember my name on there and I never logged that I couldn't find it, but I really don't have the time to do this too often so I'm not that worried about it. If I do go and look for it again I'll share some pictures with the club.

Nice club and I hope it takes off.


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Damn did my first one today.
It was trashed amongst a pile of beer cans....

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I guess I will join there is one only half a mile from my house will walk the dog there tomorrow.


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Haha, after checking out some near me I realised I'd already known one of the sites for years.

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Awesome. I've been geocaching ever since I saw your thread in the General about it. It's a really fun hobby, and I'm glad I picked it up. The one thing that disappoints me is that there are very few of them in my area, so I have to travel for 45 minutes downtown to find a lot of them. It's still a blast and I have great fun doing it! Found some really cool things too.

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Yes! This is so much fun. :D

I'm actually going on a roadtrip to Kansas with my friend this weekend and we're bringing a travel bug we found with us haha. It's gonna be awsome.

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Hell yes, let me in!

My username is Xports. As of now, I haven't found anything. But luckily, I was in need of something to do for a few hours tomorrow. Hopefully, I'll be able to grab a buddy and we'll go looking for a few.

Wish us luck!

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I once geocached...

Didn't find shit...

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I visited a geocache and saw 3 guys riding horsies

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At 5/12/09 09:24 PM, Ship wrote: I have to travel for 45 minutes downtown to find a lot of them.

You could hide some nearby!

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I have only went geocaching once and that was with my schoo. Our teachers set up canisters and we had to find them. We went in the afternoon and all the people that went in the morning re-hid or threw away the canisters so more than half of them weren't in the places they were supposed to be.

I didn't really like it but after seeing this thread I might give it a try. Except the fact that there is only one cache spot in my area :/


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Never heard of this but it sounds like something I would be interested in.
I'd like to join. :D

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This sounds fun, actually. I'll look into it.

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At 5/12/09 11:32 PM, MakeshiftMovies wrote: Never heard of this but it sounds like something I would be interested in.
I'd like to join. :D

no one in my area seems to do this since 2007 so, yeah.
I'm moving to America! :D

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I love geocaching, but the communal GPS in my circle of friends has been dead for ages.

We were looking for a particular cache on the hill behind my friend's house, and after ages of searching, we found out that the cache was a little can hidden under a fake cow pie.


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My Geocaching username is Rebii, and I've found 3 caches, but I've attempted to find about 5. It's a lot of fun, but I really only try and find one if it's really close to me. Plus, I have to convince my mum to drive me to it so I can find it. But when I get to, I enjoy it!

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How did you find that GeoCache google map?

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Just made an account, username is Dysfunctionalcakes94. Gonna try to find this. It's relatively close, pretty easy. Hope to get started on it some time this week.

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There is one I'm going to try and find tomorrow. Here. (Right down my road. I short bike ride. Going to estimate the time on the bus tomorrow)

This one is pretty close so I might look tomorrow.

Then this one is somewhere around the ballpark near my house where my mom works like 3 - 4 times a week. I might go one of these nights to look for this. Some of the comments said this was kind of a hard find.

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This seems like it would be fun.

i'll be sure to try it some time.

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I'm in once I get my hands on a GPS :)

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I look for treasure? All I found was a cemetary

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