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Guys, it's not that bad. It shatters when backstabbed and only prevents the spy from using the knife for a few seconds, not killing him.

At 5/14/09 06:12 PM, Yacazuma wrote: Guys, it's not that bad. It shatters when backstabbed and only prevents the spy from using the knife for a few seconds, not killing him.

So it leaves you open just so the sniper can kukri you to death. Great.

And even if it replaces the Kukri he will still be able to kill you with the SMG, or whatever will replace it.

I guess I'll have to shoot them 3 times instead, giving away my presence to every other sniper around.

At 5/14/09 06:12 PM, Yacazuma wrote: Guys, it's not that bad. It shatters when backstabbed and only prevents the spy from using the knife for a few seconds, not killing him.

However, even if the shield breaks, the Sniper will be alerted to the Spy, and capable of taking him down with the kukri. After killing him the Sniper will go back to spawn, go to a resupply locker (Or pick smg, locker, pick shield, locker) and be right back on the frontlines.

I'm looking forward to the valve post saying they've nerfed the razorback, how will they change it? :o

lol i thought the update was cool....till now...now i will never play spy

Hey what's with the "Head" spot in the inventory?

I'm right now deciding if I should start complaining on the TF2 forums.

You guys are over-reacting.

I'm guessing it has to be selected as a weapon, not just worn.

Plus it slows you down.

Plus it disappears after one stab.

At 5/14/09 07:10 PM, SniperWolf1564 wrote: I'm right now deciding if I should start complaining on the TF2 forums.

i would but its seriously not going to be worth the effort when I'm guessing there's at least 18024935 other threads there bitching about it

At 5/14/09 07:17 PM, WilliWowza wrote: You guys are over-reacting.

I'm guessing it has to be selected as a weapon, not just worn.

Plus it slows you down.

Plus it disappears after one stab.

You don't understand.

In the time it takes to get your knife back and prepare another backstab, the sniper can easily turn around and kill the spy, making the spy's role as a stealth assassin moot.

Oh sure you can go pick on a few heavies and medics and engineers but if my snipers suck shit and their snipers are chewing through our team and I don't want to snipe, then there's nothing I can do besides bum rush them as a pyro.

At 5/14/09 07:36 PM, Pounce wrote: In the time it takes to get your knife back and prepare another backstab, the sniper can easily turn around and kill the spy, making the spy's role as a stealth assassin moot.

I know how Spy's go, but the whole point is you don't attack him when you see the sheild, as there's no point to do so apart from breaking the shield.

Oh sure you can go pick on a few heavies and medics and engineers but if my snipers suck shit and their snipers are chewing through our team and I don't want to snipe, then there's nothing I can do besides bum rush them as a pyro.

If I'm wrong I'll eat some humble pie, but I'm almost certain this shield will replace the Machine Gun and won't be worn in conjunction with the Sniper Rifle. Meaning they won't just have it on permanently, it'll be their active weapon. It won't be the Spy killer people are making it out to be.

At 5/14/09 08:00 PM, WilliWowza wrote: If I'm wrong I'll eat some humble pie, but I'm almost certain this shield will replace the Machine Gun and won't be worn in conjunction with the Sniper Rifle. Meaning they won't just have it on permanently, it'll be their active weapon. It won't be the Spy killer people are making it out to be.

I'm siding with this view. I certainly overlooked the fact that it is currently a weapon (could be the first of the fabled apparel) when it was first announced. Spy may not be the punching bag class like we thought it could have been anymore.

I use my revolver on snipers anyways. I like to make them confused.

I think the shield idea is kind of silly, having only one function to stop spies (though I don't know what spy would be stupid enough to backstab a sniper wielding it.)

But then I realised it's the SMG replacement, so I didn't expect anything amazing.

I'm gonna side with Willi on this too. It seems like it's n active weapon, so it sounds like it's only good for paranoid snipers who think they're dealing with a noob spy who will backstab them even with the shield on.
This of course opens the option to backstab as many of the sniper's fellow snipers who may not be using the Razorback, and then either destroy it with a backstab, cloak and flee, or else attempt to take down that spy with the revolver if you're so inclined.

The revolver does what, 100 damage? 2 shots and the sniper is dead anyway.. but the razorback will be pretty good for moving around the map without fearing for your.. back.

*cough*

At 5/14/09 09:00 PM, Chiklay4 wrote: *cough*

Fuck you for browsing /v/, I wanted to post it to look smart and shit.

Hopefully, if Valve didn't break something, face stabbing might still be possible.

*cough* ummm.....

At 5/14/09 05:57 PM, Pounce wrote: http://www.teamfortress.com/sniperupdate /

Stupidest fucking idea ever.

Just leave it up to Valve to completely destroy spy-sniper balance by making the sniper basically immune to backstabs.

it breaks after the first backstap. so no, they're not immune

Spy all along etc.

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/sh owthread.php?t=860558

New possible Gold Pocketwatch unlockable to feign death.

At 5/14/09 03:36 PM, VenomKing666 wrote:

that has got to be about the best thing ever to turn up in FPS

WHat exactly ?

the sniper bow, it's a seriously cool weapon idea imo

shame its on TF2 :-/

How come ? TF2 is the best FPS out there.

I know a lot of people like it, but I just never got into it so would rather see something that good in a different game. just imo, not slating anyone for playing it

At 5/15/09 06:28 AM, WilliWowza wrote: Spy all along etc.

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/sh owthread.php?t=860558

New possible Gold Pocketwatch unlockable to feign death.

Feign death will be useless, just means every Spy corpse I see will be shot more times than usual.

At 5/15/09 07:45 AM, Omega-Epsilon wrote: Feign death will be useless, just means every Spy corpse I see will be shot more times than usual.

The Feign Death from the original TFC left a ragdoll in place of your actual body, and you can sneak away cloaked I assume. That's what people are speculating anyway.

At 5/12/09 04:52 PM, TacoFreak wrote: Yeah I just noticed that. A bow sounds lame on paper but maybe it's good in game.

It's the crossbow from HL2, but with a different skin. So yeah, it's a good idea, considering how much fun the crossbow was.

At 5/15/09 03:57 PM, xscoot wrote: It's the crossbow from HL2, but with a different skin. So yeah, it's a good idea, considering how much fun the crossbow was.

I know crossbows and bows are very similar in that they fire arrows or arrow-like projectiles, but I can't see how this is a reskin of the crossbow at all. They're very different, and I'm expecting the arrow to fly in a much different way to the crossbows steel rod things :p

Oh yes.

At 5/15/09 04:48 PM, Adio wrote: Oh yes.

OH WHAT.

IT WAS SPY ALL ALONG.

At 5/15/09 04:48 PM, Adio wrote: Oh yes.

why is the spy only getting 2 new items? and why only cloakers? shouldnt he get like a silenced pistol or something?

At 5/15/09 04:48 PM, Adio wrote: Oh yes.

HAHA, AWESOME

And I called it, hur hur. Dual update.