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At 5/20/09 08:53 PM, the-dz wrote: Wait, disregard that. It might not have to be your piss the enemy is stained with.

Who knows, all I know the more and more I think about it, the razorback is actually good. Think about it. You're playing 2fort. You're a sniper and you hang back on the balcony. What's probably gonna kill you?

1 another sniper
2 a spy

So if you have the razorback you'll never have to worry unless the spies work together. And what's the downside? It'll take 3 more seconds to walk there. Razorback is good in my book.

Quick comment about Meet the Spy, I just watched it, I've been a bad fan this update.

I am a seasoned scout, hes my favorite class and I think he is no longer a scout with his new "Melee" weapon, which features a ranged attack.

Anyway, I was knew exactly the end point of the Meet The Spy, Valve gave it away early on.

Any real scout knows, sandman users are never real scouts.

At 5/20/09 08:53 PM, the-dz wrote: Wait, disregard that. It might not have to be your piss the enemy is stained with.

If you can say something like that, then the game HAS to be brilliant.

I'm liking these new updates. I gotta say, I didn't care for the scout ones. I don't have the Bonk energy drink unlocked, so I'm not sure how effective that is, but the new shotgun seems like a bad alternative to the original, as does the new bat. Not being able to double jump just doesn't feel right.

Oh well though, I mainly play Spy and Engineer. And with this new update it seems like I'm really going to be hooked as a Spy even more.

I think right now the Soldier really needs to be updated, I'm surprised they haven't got to him yet. They started updating the least played classes first, and I swear the Soldier is the top 3 least played classes.

http://www.teamfortress.com/sniper_vs_sp y/

well apparently the jar of piss is actually a real weapon

At 5/20/09 09:47 PM, Pounce wrote: http://www.teamfortress.com/sniper_vs_sp y/

well apparently the jar of piss is actually a real weapon

Little late to the party man.

But yea, Jarate kicks ass.

At 5/20/09 09:41 PM, DirtySyko wrote: I'm liking these new updates. I gotta say, I didn't care for the scout ones. I don't have the Bonk energy drink unlocked, so I'm not sure how effective that is, but the new shotgun seems like a bad alternative to the original, as does the new bat. Not being able to double jump just doesn't feel right.

Bonk is only useful to drag sentry fire to you while teammates take it down, and also to get past *some* choke points.
Also the second scattergun was actually inspired by a thread I have created. And I use it, it can be quite useful sometimes, in fact it's only less effective against scouts.

Oh well though, I mainly play Spy and Engineer. And with this new update it seems like I'm really going to be hooked as a Spy even more.

I think right now the Soldier really needs to be updated, I'm surprised they haven't got to him yet. They started updating the least played classes first, and I swear the Soldier is the top 3 least played classes.

He is probably next.

At 5/20/09 08:45 PM, the-dz wrote: Oh wait, now I get the April Fools Joke.

There never was a joke, and we've been fooled for over a month now.

Haha Valve.

Dare I say that that was the most effective April Fool's joke ever? (Or at least in my experience of them.)

At 5/20/09 10:21 PM, VenomKing666 wrote:

Also the second scattergun was actually inspired by a thread I have created. And I use it, it can be quite useful sometimes, in fact it's only less effective against scouts.

It's a good escape weapon, I'll give it that, but if you're trying to kill the opponent it's much easier with the original gun. As for the new bat, I dislike it completely except for stunning invulnerable heavies, which isn't good enough to replace if you ask me.

At 5/20/09 10:03 PM, physicsman09 wrote:

At 5/20/09 09:47 PM, Pounce wrote: http://www.teamfortress.com/sniper_vs_sp y/

well apparently the jar of piss is actually a real weapon

Little late to the party man.

But yea, Jarate kicks ass.

i don't read what other people write

At 5/20/09 10:21 PM, VenomKing666 wrote:

I think right now the Soldier really needs to be updated, I'm surprised they haven't got to him yet. They started updating the least played classes first, and I swear the Soldier is the top 3 least played classes.

He is probably next.

Screw that, Pyros need another update. Our burning powers aren't as efficient as they used to be. With all these sandmen and super pistols, its hard for a Pyro to make that dolla.

Radda Radda Radda

At 5/20/09 10:54 PM, The-Omnipresence wrote: Screw that, Pyros need another update. Our burning powers aren't as efficient as they used to be. With all these sandmen and super pistols, its hard for a Pyro to make that dolla.

i heard it was hard to hold W and left click with absolutely zero effort and coordination and kill everything in 0.2 seconds

At 5/20/09 10:36 PM, DirtySyko wrote: It's a good escape weapon, I'll give it that, but if you're trying to kill the opponent it's much easier with the original gun. As for the new bat, I dislike it completely except for stunning invulnerable heavies, which isn't good enough to replace if you ask me.

Actually with 2 meatshots you can kill almost every class.

Just run at melee range of someone, shoot, as he is pushed back in the air follow him then shoot again. BAM, he's dead.

Exept if he's a heavy or a soldier. (and maybe pyros and demomen I can't tell)

At 5/20/09 11:00 PM, Pounce wrote: i heard it was hard to hold W and left click with absolutely zero effort and coordination and kill everything in 0.2 seconds

Any Pyro that doesn't use the compression blast is an embarassment.

To be honest I thought they could've done allot more with the Sniper update, I really am not a fan of Jarate or the Bow and Arrow.

At 5/21/09 03:44 AM, JarrodK wrote: To be honest I thought they could've done allot more with the Sniper update, I really am not a fan of Jarate or the Bow and Arrow.

I suppose you wanted a new rifle?
Valve aren't that boring.
Their weapons might not be conventional, hell might not even be useful, but god they're fun.

Yes, I wouldn't have minded a new rifle or some sort of Australian melee weapon.

At 5/21/09 04:01 AM, JarrodK wrote: Yes, I wouldn't have minded a new rifle or some sort of Australian melee weapon.

A boomerang would have been an interesting touch.

TF2 is 53% preloaded.
With any luck I'll be on in an hour.

Steam iD: FanBuoy

Haha, it's funny how much people are crying on the Steam forums about Jarate.

Some people take video games too seriously.

At 5/21/09 05:28 AM, Omega-Epsilon wrote: Haha, it's funny how much people are crying on the Steam forums about Jarate.

Some people take video games too seriously.

Really? I thought it was the best thing about the update for the sniper

At 5/21/09 05:33 AM, slimt2100 wrote:

At 5/21/09 05:28 AM, Omega-Epsilon wrote: Haha, it's funny how much people are crying on the Steam forums about Jarate.

Some people take video games too seriously.

Really? I thought it was the best thing about the update for the sniper

Who else would make throwable piss a weapon?
I thought the dildo in GTA was funny, but this is too much!

At 5/21/09 05:56 AM, MasterBalls wrote:

At 5/21/09 05:33 AM, slimt2100 wrote:

At 5/21/09 05:28 AM, Omega-Epsilon wrote: Haha, it's funny how much people are crying on the Steam forums about Jarate.

Some people take video games too seriously.

Really? I thought it was the best thing about the update for the sniper

Who else would make throwable piss a weapon?
I thought the dildo in GTA was funny, but this is too much!

Well, yeah, the idea of throwing bottles of piss at your enemies (and friends) is a little absurd, but I think it goes along nicely with the style of the game.

Also, I love how Valve explains why it causes enemies to take more damage; they won't want to live after they've had your urine splashed all over them

Does anyone know when exactly this update is coming?

At 5/21/09 05:28 AM, Omega-Epsilon wrote: Haha, it's funny how much people are crying on the Steam forums about Jarate.

Some people take video games too seriously.

I wish I could see it.

Too bad I can't since I'm banned.

At 5/21/09 08:08 AM, emo-penguin wrote: Does anyone know when exactly this update is coming?

I've heard that it's coming later tonight. I'm not entirely sure.

So, anybody wanna go to some achievement servers and spam fire when it's out?

At 5/21/09 08:51 AM, Racoonmario wrote: So, anybody wanna go to some achievement servers and spam fire when it's out?

Since Valve has stated that the achievements aren't coupled with the weapons anymore, I doubt you will have to do that :P

At 5/21/09 09:00 AM, the-dz wrote:

At 5/21/09 08:51 AM, Racoonmario wrote: So, anybody wanna go to some achievement servers and spam fire when it's out?

Since Valve has stated that the achievements aren't coupled with the weapons anymore, I doubt you will have to do that :P

Buh? Could you supply a link to that article?

At 5/21/09 10:25 AM, Yacazuma wrote:

At 5/21/09 09:00 AM, the-dz wrote:

At 5/21/09 08:51 AM, Racoonmario wrote: So, anybody wanna go to some achievement servers and spam fire when it's out?

Since Valve has stated that the achievements aren't coupled with the weapons anymore, I doubt you will have to do that :P

Buh? Could you supply a link to that article?

I believe the statement meant they were wanting to decouple achievements with unlockables. The problem is that people spam servers, hunting down achievements. The new costume gear is set to change that, as you don't need to unlock achievements.