conundrum

[NeverHundred]

Wrap your brain around this drunkenly slurred and mumbled statement. "I know the sky is blue, but I don't believe the sky is blue."

[MonkeyV]

I don't think that's possible.

Wait how does denial work?

[DrClay]

you know he's right. The sky is blue but it really isn't blue, its only blue because of the ocean

[MagnumForce]

I don't understand but I'll take a guess: you don't believe in what the blue sky stands for?

clueless guy here

[MetalSlimeHunt]

But I don't... There's no... *sob*

/suicide

[NeverHundred]

At 4/28/09 11:36 PM, DrClay wrote: you know he's right. The sky is blue but it really isn't blue, its only blue because of the ocean

It is blue because the water vapor in the air is blue.

[MultiCanimefan]

At 4/28/09 11:36 PM, MonkeyV wrote:

Wait how does denial work?

You got it right. It's knowing something, but not believing it out of fear or what have you.

[Sovalkov]

At 4/28/09 11:33 PM, NeverHundred wrote: Wrap your brain around this drunkenly slurred and mumbled statement. "I know the sky is blue, but I don't believe the sky is blue."

Well, that's your opinion.

[Alpharius120]

That's like saying I know blood is blue, but I don't believe blood is blue.

It's simply stating that what you see is not true, blood is blue until oxygen reaches it, at which time it turns red, so we're brought up believing blood is red when it's not.
The sky is blue because of the atmosphere mixed with other such things, when in reality it's a pitch black area dotted with stars.

[tsdeath1]

At 4/28/09 11:37 PM, NeverHundred wrote:

At 4/28/09 11:36 PM, DrClay wrote: you know he's right. The sky is blue but it really isn't blue, its only blue because of the ocean

It is blue because the water vapor in the air is blue.

water is transparent, correct? i thought it was because of the ocean to.

[DrClay]

At 4/28/09 11:37 PM, NeverHundred wrote: It is blue because the water vapor in the air is blue.

But that color could be altered in anyway, depending on the weather.
Sunset makes it red/orange
if its nighttime it is black, or dark blue. There isn't a permanent color of the sky, because the sky isn't an object, its just infact a void

[tsdeath1]

OHH its because of the light spectrum, and now i know.

[SteveGuzzi]

At 4/28/09 11:37 PM, NeverHundred wrote:

At 4/28/09 11:36 PM, DrClay wrote: you know he's right. The sky is blue but it really isn't blue, its only blue because of the ocean

It is blue because the water vapor in the air is blue.

No, it's blue because of the way light scatters through the water vapor. That's why it can also be orange, red, purple, etc

[tsdeath1]

At 4/28/09 11:39 PM, Alpharius120 wrote: That's like saying I know blood is blue, but I don't believe blood is blue.

It's simply stating that what you see is not true, blood is blue until oxygen reaches it, at which time it turns red, so we're brought up believing blood is red when it's not.
The sky is blue because of the atmosphere mixed with other such things, when in reality it's a pitch black area dotted with stars.

well its red after it gets oxygen from the lungs. then it turns blue when the oxygen is turned into co2 and exhaled and etc. ami right? im just guessin here

[DrClay]

At 4/28/09 11:42 PM, StephanosGnomon wrote: No, it's blue because of the way light scatters through the water vapor. That's why it can also be orange, red, purple, etc

That's what I'm saying, there is no actual color of the sky itself. Like I said before, its not an object, its a void.

[NeverHundred]

At 4/28/09 11:40 PM, DrClay wrote:

At 4/28/09 11:37 PM, NeverHundred wrote: It is blue because the water vapor in the air is blue.

But that color could be altered in anyway, depending on the weather.
Sunset makes it red/orange
if its nighttime it is black, or dark blue. There isn't a permanent color of the sky, because the sky isn't an object, its just infact a void

You sir are very much correct. The sky isn't technically there as an object... but it is there in our minds as a concept. A concept that is considered blue by most accounts.

[tsdeath1]

At 4/28/09 11:42 PM, StephanosGnomon wrote:

No, it's blue because of the way light scatters through the water vapor. That's why it can also be orange, red, purple, etc

you googled it ;)

[SteveGuzzi]

At 4/28/09 11:42 PM, tsdeath1 wrote: well its red after it gets oxygen from the lungs. then it turns blue when the oxygen is turned into co2 and exhaled and etc. ami right? im just guessin here

Blood is never blue, lol. It goes from dark red to bright red after its oxygenated.

At 4/28/09 11:43 PM, DrClay wrote: That's what I'm saying, there is no actual color of the sky itself. Like I said before, its not an object, its a void.

The vacuum of space is a void, the different layers of our atmosphere is not.

You could also say that NOTHING really has any inherent color, it's just a matter of which EM wavelengths reflect and which EM wavelengths are absorbed. :P

At 4/28/09 11:43 PM, tsdeath1 wrote: you googled it ;)

If I didn't hear it in elementary school then I still saw it on like, Beekman's World over a decade ago anyway. :|

[DrClay]

At 4/28/09 11:52 PM, StephanosGnomon wrote: The vacuum of space is a void, the different layers of our atmosphere is not.

You could also say that NOTHING really has any inherent color, it's just a matter of which EM wavelengths reflect and which EM wavelengths are absorbed. :P

...wow....I think I just got mind-blown...
Saying nothing has an actual color sounds both correct and not correct. Depending on the situation I would say. If I where to shine a light at my wall and say that changed its color, that might not add up. Our eyes will see it as a different color, but the color that the object actually is doesn't get altered. It appears altered because of our eyesight, and the ways we see colors.
...is that what you ment.. I'm just wondering :P

Could you say mind-blow?

[MagnumForce]

So can anybody tell me what the point of this thread was or am I just wasting my time?

still clueless

[6r0undZ3r0]

At 4/28/09 11:42 PM, StephanosGnomon wrote: No, it's blue because of the way light scatters through the water vapor. That's why it can also be orange, red, purple, etc

Woot! Someone else answered correctly!

[Alpharius120]

At 4/28/09 11:52 PM, StephanosGnomon wrote:

At 4/28/09 11:42 PM, tsdeath1 wrote: well its red after it gets oxygen from the lungs. then it turns blue when the oxygen is turned into co2 and exhaled and etc. ami right? im just guessin here

Blood is never blue, lol. It goes from dark red to bright red after its oxygenated.

Wikied:

If human blood were exposed to vacuum, it would lose all oxygen (bound to the hemoglobin molecules in its red cells), as it does, in part, when it supplies oxygen to various organs as it passes through the body. This state of deoxyhemoglobin has a purplish color.

[SteveGuzzi]

At 4/28/09 11:57 PM, DrClay wrote: ...is that what you ment.. I'm just wondering :P

Color itself isn't a "real" property, basically. Light is the object and the property that changes is its wavelength. Think of it this way -- x-rays, radio signals, the microwaves that cook your popcorn... it's ALL electromagnetic radiation, it's all the same thing. What we see as color is just a thin little slice out of the whole EM spectrum. Humans are sensitive to certain wavelengths but there are creatures that are either less OR more sensitive than us to the different wavelengths out there. Like, imagine your TV remote. You press a button but you don't see anything really happening except on the TV itself. IF we were equipped with photoreceptors in our eyes that were sensitive to infrared then we'd actually be able to see the light flickers coming out of the remote.

Hell, if we were more way more sensitive to light than we are now it would probably suck. Radio waves are just another form of EM radiation and we shoot those around everywhere. I don't think you'd really want to be able to see all that stuff all at once. Talk about having your mind blown. Sheeeit.

[SteveGuzzi]

At 4/28/09 11:59 PM, Alpharius120 wrote:

At 4/28/09 11:52 PM, StephanosGnomon wrote:

At 4/28/09 11:42 PM, tsdeath1 wrote: well its red after it gets oxygen from the lungs. then it turns blue when the oxygen is turned into co2 and exhaled and etc. ami right? im just guessin here

Blood is never blue, lol. It goes from dark red to bright red after its oxygenated.

Wikied:

If human blood were exposed to vacuum, it would lose all oxygen (bound to the hemoglobin molecules in its red cells), as it does, in part, when it supplies oxygen to various organs as it passes through the body. This state of deoxyhemoglobin has a purplish color.

You know there's a difference between purple and blue, right?

Anyway.

Blood is red for the same reason that rust is red.

There are creatures whose blood uses copper instead of iron to bind oxygen. You know how copper turns greenish-blue when oxidized (e.g. Statue of Liberty)? Yeah well guess what color blood those things have.

[Pounce]

You believe God exists. You don't know God exists.

Conversely...

[NeverHundred]

At 4/29/09 12:19 AM, Pounce wrote: You believe God exists. You don't know God exists.

But I don't really believe God exists. I like to think that the universe is a little more complicated than that.

[Sensationalism]

At 4/29/09 12:18 AM, StephanosGnomon wrote:

Blood is red for the same reason that rust is red.

There are creatures whose blood uses copper instead of iron to bind oxygen. You know how copper turns greenish-blue when oxidized (e.g. Statue of Liberty)? Yeah well guess what color blood those things have.

Insect blood is almost never red; they don't have haemoglobin. It's not needed because of their tracheal system and spiracles that allow oxygen to reach the tissues directly. They don't have a closed sytem of circulation either, blood gets to flow around freely. Wooh!

[holy-zombie-jesus]

At 4/28/09 11:36 PM, DrClay wrote: you know he's right. The sky is blue but it really isn't blue, its only blue because of the ocean

i know this is a really nerdy way to contribute to this thread but, the sky is blue because blue is the colour that refracts through air the best, or at least its the best colour that is visible to the naked eye,so thats why the sky is blue, not because its reflected from the sea. I know this because i go on wikipedia too much, and i have a compulsion to correct people, my bad.

and the drunk guy sounds like a very paranoid person, i can releate :L

[holy-zombie-jesus]

At 4/28/09 11:36 PM, DrClay wrote: you know he's right. The sky is blue but it really isn't blue, its only blue because of the ocean

i know this is a really nerdy way to contribute to this thread but, the sky is blue because blue is the colour that refracts through air the best, or at least its the best colour that is visible to the naked eye,so thats why the sky is blue, not because its reflected from the sea. I know this because i go on wikipedia too much, and i have a compulsion to correct people, my bad. HAHA DISREGARD THAT I SUCK COCKS.

and the drunk guy sounds like a very paranoid person, i can releate :L

[Jonners]

At 4/28/09 11:37 PM, NeverHundred wrote:

At 4/28/09 11:36 PM, DrClay wrote: you know he's right. The sky is blue but it really isn't blue, its only blue because of the ocean

It is blue because the water vapor in the air is blue.

It si blue because nitrogen particles that make up about 70% of the earth's atmosphere reflect blue light more than anything else, like a filter.