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At 4/18/09 07:16 PM, reveihca wrote:

At 4/18/09 10:50 AM, 6r0undZ3r0 wrote: From your post, I'd say so. Its her fault she had the kid by telling him not to use a condom.

He didn't have to listen to her. He's a big boy (big enough to get a chick pregnant) he's big enough to put on the condom himself without permission.

It seems you've never seen a naked woman asking you to do something for sex. As said before, good judgment is easily clouded by inappropriate thoughts of the opposite sex without clothes.

At 4/18/09 06:48 PM, CrAzYzXc wrote: At 16, You shouldn't even be knocking up older people. Even if it is only 2 years. Abortion is wrong and Adoption is wrong. He should just deal with it and try to live his life with the baby as best he can.

Wait, how is adoption wrong? Polls even say that adoptive parents do better than biological parents. It doesn't matter if you share the same blood as someone. As long as you form a bond of love, they're you're family.

There's nothing he can do, the future of the baby is the mother's choice alone unless the parents are married.

At 4/18/09 07:27 PM, TechnoGoomba wrote: It seems you've never seen a naked woman asking you to do something for sex. As said before, good judgment is easily clouded by inappropriate thoughts of the opposite sex without clothes.

Clouded, but it shouldn't be blocked. While I realize a 16 year old isn't going to be thinking with his head in times like that, he should have had enough common sense to realize that there are risks involved with not using a condom.

I still pity the situation that he's in, because it does suck huge ones, but it's not entirely the girl's fault this happened. If he was suspicious enough to suspect she might be skipping out on her birth control, he should have been using a condom to protect himself.

At 4/18/09 07:27 PM, TechnoGoomba wrote:

At 4/18/09 07:16 PM, reveihca wrote:

At 4/18/09 10:50 AM, 6r0undZ3r0 wrote: From your post, I'd say so. Its her fault she had the kid by telling him not to use a condom.

He didn't have to listen to her. He's a big boy (big enough to get a chick pregnant) he's big enough to put on the condom himself without permission.

It seems you've never seen a naked woman asking you to do something for sex. As said before, good judgment is easily clouded by inappropriate thoughts of the opposite sex without clothes.

It should only impair your judgment, you shouldn't become a bumbling idiot because someone you're attracted to is in the nude and asking you to do something. That's how people end up in situations like this anyway, poor judgment. If you haven't learned that yet I can only hope you don't end up like the kid in this story. If people could just keep it in their pants you would very rarely see this stuff.

At 4/18/09 07:36 PM, irashii wrote:

At 4/18/09 07:27 PM, TechnoGoomba wrote: It seems you've never seen a naked woman asking you to do something for sex. As said before, good judgment is easily clouded by inappropriate thoughts of the opposite sex without clothes.

Clouded, but it shouldn't be blocked. While I realize a 16 year old isn't going to be thinking with his head in times like that, he should have had enough common sense to realize that there are risks involved with not using a condom.

I still pity the situation that he's in, because it does suck huge ones, but it's not entirely the girl's fault this happened. If he was suspicious enough to suspect she might be skipping out on her birth control, he should have been using a condom to protect himself.

It is true that it was partly his own fault, but that doesn't stop the fact that the majority of the blame rests on the woman's shoulders. Besides, maybe he thought that if she got pregnant she would set him up for adoption or get an abortion. I wouldn't know, though, because the only one who truly knows about his mind is himself. Though I do see your point, I think we can safely forge a peaceful medium with our ideas.

Quite true. Still, we wouldn't know what he was thinking. Maybe he had reasoning that would be superior to all of our hypotheses.

At 4/18/09 06:48 PM, CrAzYzXc wrote: At 16, You shouldn't even be knocking up older people. Even if it is only 2 years. Abortion is wrong and Adoption is wrong. He should just deal with it and try to live his life with the baby as best he can.

Right, adoption is wrong, so I guess I would have been better off with my real mother, who was 13 years old when she got pregnant with me, an on-and-off drug addict, and slept around.

Fuck you.

Guess I should weigh in...

I think both parties are to blame. I'm willing to bet she quit taking her pills, but at the same time, he should have worn a condom if he wasn't comfortable not doing it, or not had sex with her. Furthermore, if she's such a bitch and he didn't have the sense to break up with her, well, that's his problem.

You said she has absolutely no ability to raise a child. I think that's probably your friend's best bet now is to get a lawyer and prove she is an unfit parent. If that doesn't work, he's fucked, and really should have known better.

As much as he should take responsibility for having sex with her, she should bear some responsibility for coaxing him into skimping on birth control. It's his baby as well. Though she is the one bearing it, she has to take into consideration how this will affect his life. The abortion issue is the real kicker. She has already shown how little she cares about how it will affect him, so they probably would not be able to easily stay together.

Women always have the choice, and accepting that is just part of being a man. If you knock a girl up, you have to support her decision, so the only time not to use a condom would be if you wanted a kid, and telling us he was stupid enough to be convinced he'd be fine without one is showing he has to take care of the baby.

At 4/18/09 05:54 PM, TechnoGoomba wrote: By the way, how'd your brother end up with an older woman?

He met her at school, then at a party she asked him out, they've been together ever since (almost a year)

At 4/18/09 06:01 PM, Judzfell wrote: If he had possessed a brain, he would understand that bitches like this one needs to be controlled.

While you're being an asshole, you're right about him being whipped. It took several months of abuse to get him to start standing up to her. Obviously we hadn't 'alpha maled' him enough for him to resist thinking with his dick.

At 4/18/09 06:17 PM, Rig wrote: They're both dumb kids who thought they could get away with it.

Except that we suspect foul play on his girlfriend's behalf.

At 4/18/09 06:45 PM, RandomExploit wrote: This is why I don't have a girlfriend.

Nope, that's because you haven't the balls to ask out the girl you've been oggling for the last 2 months.

At 4/18/09 06:48 PM, CrAzYzXc wrote: At 16, You shouldn't even be knocking up older people. Even if it is only 2 years. Abortion is wrong and Adoption is wrong. He should just deal with it and try to live his life with the baby as best he can.

How is adoption wrong? Putting this baby up for adoption will ensure it a brighter future than it currently has. Neither of these people are ready for this, despite what she thinks. At least with adoptive parents the baby will be brought up by people who know what they're doing (you have to do a course or something don't you?)

At 4/18/09 07:15 PM, reveihca wrote: He shouldn't have been having unprotected sex if he wasn't ready to man up to the responsibilities of being a father, or paying out the ass for a child. It's his own fault and you can't blame his girlfriend, it's her choice whether she wants to keep it or not. Just like it was his choice to have sex with her. For whatever reason I feel "you snooze you lose" is appropriate here, maybe now you'll realize the importance of wearing protection in the sack.

He did, and he wanted to keep double dutching it. She ensured him that she was taking the pill, which is protection enough if done right.

At 4/18/09 11:09 PM, ismellarat wrote: He did, and he wanted to keep double dutching it. She ensured him that she was taking the pill, which is protection enough if done right.

Ever hear of the expression "better safe than sorry"? I just don't think there's any way around the basic fact the guy chose not to wear a condom. The pill isn't a 100% guarantee and to be honest neither is a condom, you shouldn't have sex if you can't handle all the responsibilities that come with it and the consequences. I know that's hard to accept when you're sixteen but it's the truth.

duz ur frend lik pokemon or yugioh?

I'm going to put this very simply. Fuck = babies. If you do not want to risk a baby, can't support a baby, a baby will mess up your life: then do not have sex. Period. It goes for us married folks, as well.

The tricky part is the fact that she is overaged and he is underaged. What this means is that she should go to jail and he and his family should raise the baby. Even if her family got the baby, he's stuck with the child support. There are no easy "outs" here.

The best thing to do would be to put the baby up for adoption. Then everyone's a winner.

I'm not sure exactly what Australian law is, but over here in the States, the only obligation a father has is child support. He's stuck paying it, but he is under absolutely no obligation to be a father or to stick around the woman. If he wants to be left alone, she has to leave him alone. So, if the law is like that over there, too, her little plan backfired, especially since she's the one stuck with the kid.

At 4/19/09 12:04 AM, galatea1 wrote: The tricky part is the fact that she is overaged and he is underaged. What this means is that she should go to jail and he and his family should raise the baby.

The best thing to do would be to put the baby up for adoption. Then everyone's a winner.

Yet again, I'd like to say that the legal age of consent in Australia is 16. But I do agree with the adoption idea.

Hey guys.
For those of you that may have cared.

HAHA Yeah right.

The baby is now born.
The mother is attmpting to raise it herself (no doubt with financial help from both her family and the government.) and the father has yet to even meet it, as per his wishes.

I think she claimed to not know the father, so he's safe from Alimony.
People still bring it up to him though, despite him asking people not to. Why is it that people have to bring up painful, awkward conversation in public?

Dont listen to someone say "dont use a condom" if youre not prepared for the consequences.
It's a two-way decision, but neither can force the other.

If your gonna screw you should be able to accept responsibility if a kid pops out.

Things like this happen all the time sadly.
I think he should have stood up for himself a little more though, like first reply said, if he was willing to finally agree to be brave and not use any contraception methods then he should be brave enough to care for the child.

Also, IS SHE HOT?

At 11/12/09 01:13 AM, FurryDemon wrote: Also, IS SHE HOT?

She was already slightly overweight, now she's popped out a kid, what do you think?

That's what his stupid ass gets for not pulling out

Ultimately it will always be the womans final say whether she wants to keep a baby or not.

Besides the fact that they carry the kid for 9 months, it's to do with after the baby is born too. The mother is the natural giving parent. Every baby needs a mother.

The same cannot always be said about a father. I agree that the way she's gone about this is horrible and your friend has a right to not offer any support to her and the baby. While it isn't the babies fault in this, it is also not his. There are many men who have children who they simply never see. Men are typical able to get over being biological parents to a child they didn't want more then women can.

Your friend is doing nothing wrong, and if she keeps 'harassing' him about being a father, perhaps he should talk to a midwife or some doctor, anyone who would know if there is a law that can stop her revealing to the child who it's dad is.

If he doesn't want a kid he doesn't have to have one, even if it will be born, he doesn't need to involve himself at all.

Heh, good thing i like boys. The worst thing I could get is... AIDS, lol. Still better than babies tho.

Anyway, with that put a side, it's his own fault really, if you think about it, he should have put his teenage hormones a side and put on a freakin condom. Everytime you have (heterosexual) sex, you will have a chance conceiving a child.

Well, the the best thing he could do now is to hire a lawyer and get as much out of it as he can.

At 11/12/09 03:20 AM, Gagsy wrote: If he doesn't want a kid he doesn't have to have one, even if it will be born, he doesn't need to involve himself at all.

At 11/12/09 03:35 AM, Frank-The-Hedgehog wrote: Well, the the best thing he could do now is to hire a lawyer and get as much out of it as he can.

Your concern is appreciated, but unnecessary.
So far it appears she's content with the single mother approach, and he hasn't complained about Child Support yet so he must be free of that too.
In case anyone cares, the baby is a boy, and he's actually really cute.
I'm not going to post pictures, because I don't think either parents would be pleased about that.

Shit outta luck..

Unless, he falcon punches the chick in the gut... but that would be wrong.. that would be wrong!.

At 11/12/09 05:02 AM, ismellarat wrote: Your concern is appreciated, but unnecessary.
So far it appears she's content with the single mother approach, and he hasn't complained about Child Support yet so he must be free of that too.
In case anyone cares, the baby is a boy, and he's actually really cute.
I'm not going to post pictures, because I don't think either parents would be pleased about that.

Eh, things turned out for the best. I can't say that I am happy for them, because that would be a lie, but I don't feel bad for them.

Teh edn?

People that young need to give up the child and be old enough to provide a life thats doesn't have minimum wage parents. People should have their career/ finish college before they plan to have a child.

At 4/18/09 03:42 AM, dylan-double-c wrote: Jesus, if your man enough to knock a girl up, you gotta be enough of a man to be a dad.

I think you're right. This guy's just a pussy. He didn't man up enough to say let's keep the condoms or end the relationship. This guy was probably in it for the sex if he stayed with this bitch. So in the end yeah he's to blame as well.