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At 4/15/09 05:58 PM, TomFulp wrote: Rev share will be a part of the Writers' Portal when it launches!

This is what caught my attention.

At 4/15/09 11:37 PM, Toukeman wrote:

At 4/15/09 05:58 PM, TomFulp wrote: Rev share will be a part of the Writers' Portal when it launches!

This is what caught my attention.

What about the Art Portal? :3

Wow, now I see why the old setup was in beta. You guys fulfilled ALL my dreams with the levels of granularity you gave me on the reports. GREAT job, really. And thanks for all the dough that you're trickling my way :)

I have two questions about the Rev Share system.

1. Does this mean that in-flash API ads won't make us any more moneys?

2. I know that atleast one person must have viewed my userpage since I registered for revenue sharing, because there is one more response to my latest news post than there was before. How come when I check the amount of revenue that I made, I still don't have a list under where my graph should be that states that I got one userpage view, probably giving me maybe, one hundreth of a penny. Does it only tell you about views once you have enough revenue to be greater than or equal to one cent?

Tom, your post mentions "non-adult Flash and Audio pages" - one of my more popular Flash submissions is a "adult" game, does this mean I can only add the ads to other (non-nude) games I've submitted? And what about my user page, could I add it there too?

Also, if you choose the cheque option, can it be deposited anywhere in the world?

Holy shit, this is one thing I did not see coming. Again, NG never ceases to amaze me.

My stats for aqua slug say it earned $1.33, but it says my share is $0.00. I double checked my rev split and it's set to 50-50. What's up with that? All my other statistics are correct.

At 4/16/09 12:43 AM, UberCream wrote: 1. Does this mean that in-flash API ads won't make us any more moneys?

No, why would it? API and in-page ads are both tracked on the graph

2. I know that atleast one person must have viewed my userpage since I registered for revenue sharing, because there is one more response to my latest news post than there was before. How come when I check the amount of revenue that I made, I still don't have a list under where my graph should be that states that I got one userpage view, probably giving me maybe, one hundreth of a penny. Does it only tell you about views once you have enough revenue to be greater than or equal to one cent?

from Tom on page 3:
"The graph only tracks items that have either made money or had at least 1000 impressions. The chart only tracks things that have made money... So taking that under consideration it hopefully makes more sense. The ads are a majority performance-based, so clicks and/or sign-ups."

So wait... Now NG musicians can actually make money off their music?
That's what I'm getting out of this, correct me if I'm wrong.

I'd like to know 2 things:

1. I've always avoided putting my personal data on the internetz, like (real) name, address and stuff.
Now, I find myself reconsidering, so:
- Who has access to this information?
- What about the propability of anyone (who knows "me" only through my account and has any hard feelings toward me for some reason *cough*) deliberately trying to access this personal info (through my account)?

2. What about the FAQ?
When on day one I discovered NG and decided to instantly love it, I read through all the FAQ to understand everything and avoid at least the dumbest n00b-mistakes.
Over time, things changed (from revenue share up until today THIS) and the FAQ seemed outdated more and more.
- Any chance all this new (and vital) info gets updated to the FAQ anytime soon?
- If not, what degree of change does it take for the FAQ to be updated (Tom said something about a sitewide overhaul)?

I only quick-read the reply's to Tom's post so sorry if It already came up and I missed it.

If NG were a lady I could ask out for tonight, I'd ask if I could fuck her right away.

I've signed up for this, because I've not got anything to lose. I don't expect to make a whole lot, but just the thought that you guys are willing to share the wealth is hugely commendable, and is telling of the NG community.

Everything by everyone indeed.

I think it's amazing.
I got to figuring out how the money thing works now.
One question though.
I have a PO Box. Would I put my Box number into Line 2?
This is an absolutely awesome thing you're doing with the ad rev.
Thanks!

I wish you would have made this before I released my Sirtom game that got a load of views cause of what happened.

I would have made at least, what, a whole dollar?

even after reading this thread and going through the drop-down menus in my revenue area i still dont have the slightest clue how this thing works
i still dont know how rss feeds work and i've been online for ages

but

apparently i have made $1.64 so yay for me!

At 4/16/09 02:50 AM, irashii wrote:

Everything by everyone indeed.

NG reminds me of Tom's vision of NG Haus more everyday, except we're not all in one big house doing our thing, we're all in front of our computers in our underwear. The sense of unity is definitely here now. I can't wait to see what happens next! It's definitely cool being here to see it all finally come together.

At 4/16/09 03:12 AM, cast wrote: all in front of our computers in our underwear.

not me.
i animate purely in the nude.
with my genitals flopping wildly in the spring air

Oh wow, a Flash that has my audio used in it has appeared in my ad earnings. it made money, but my share is 0. is this because it hasnt made enough to share any of it with me, or is there a setting the flash auther used to not share any thing with me?

Re: RSS feeds

About damn time!!! I still wish that Newgrounds had a customizable subscription system like DeviantArt and Youtube and most other websites. But RSS is the next best thing.

Regarding ads, I really like the Project Wonderful ads myself:
http://www.projectwonderful.com/

It's run by Ryan North, creator of Dinosaur Comics. Unlike all the other internet advertising systems, it's based on time rather than clicks, and features an open bidding system.

I think things could be made rather interesting if you allowed Project Wonderful ads for individual film pages, which would allow individual advertisers (which would include other artists, as well) to pick and choose the audience they want, and I think drive up the overall revenue for both users and Newgrounds (of course, Newgrounds would take a share of the revenue).

Because the thing going on now is that Newgrounds is "everything by everyone". A huge variety of material is here. And yet your ads are all THEMATICALLY the same across the whole website. They're all advertising MMORPGs and online games.

It's no wonder that 600 visits on someone's personal site can make them so much more ad revenue than 1000s of visits on Newgrounds. Take my own page for example - I'm not a very popular flash or music artist, but if I did decide to ramp up my production, the ads on my pages would be completely irrelevant to my art. Even if I did spend time getting people to come to my NG page, why would anyone who was looking to watch a warm Christmas animation click on an ad for a "Free Giant Mecha RPG"?

Under a Project Wonderful system, people could bid on the ad space, and the winning ads would likely actually be relevant to the page (they could be Christmas-themed, for example), which would mean significantly higher revenue.

Moreover, by having a one-theme-fits-all ad system, you are effectively encouraging the thematic homogenization of Newgrounds content. People who make content that does not generate good revenue for online MMORPG ads will be discouraged when they see that their contribution is little-wanted.

Revenue ad-sharing is a great idea, but it could be a lot more effective than it is now.

Blogspot to ng blog rss?
Great i really like the idea of the feeds. Is it possible to rss the blog function, so that say if yo have a blogspot, all your post would apear in your NG blog? that would be fantastic

Newgrounds embed?
These arn't many other sites that enables you to just upload .swf like newgrounds. Would a newgrounds player be possible. to embed swf movies? could bring more people to the site but then again it might loose page add rev. Not sure but i think that would be awsome and could really bring newgrounds into the spotlight =)

Ok... Well, Tom mentioned in his first post that there will be news post rss feeds soon. So it's not a case of it being "would be nice to have", more so a case of "you're gonna have it."

Sorry answerd, though i was being smart geez lol, the embeded player maybe? lol goodjob guys

At 4/15/09 12:34 PM, TomFulp wrote: On our end, we'll be working to raise your revenue numbers. While PsychoGoldfish was working on the rev share system, Liljim has been overhauling and expanding our RSS feeds. Today we introduced feeds for new Flash and Audio by individual artists...

About time. That YahooPipe I made a while back is falling over itself trying to cut and paste those feeds together...

:)

Tom Fulp for President 2012

At 4/15/09 04:47 PM, Mattster wrote: My self esteem has gone from low, to dangerously high!

<3
I love this new quick view on the account page :)
-Matt

you lucky bastard

At 4/15/09 09:28 PM, liljim wrote:

At 4/15/09 09:06 PM, Sonucais wrote: Would be really interesting have a RSS for the news actually, really interesting.

News? Explain what you mean, please.

Some kind to get updates with RSS at last when some one we are interested on makes a a New Post. Would be really interesting receive them with a RSS or inside our Newgrounds account somehow in the future.

I'm amazed at how many views my game Mario Movie Maker 4 is pulling in. Over 100,000 views in April alone, and the game was first released in January! It's still going!!

This thing has spread over the Internet like wildfire. It's insane. Hardly any of the views have actually come from Newgrounds.

I submitted a few of my flashes for review for flash ads, I hope they pass.
This could be a great way to get me some quick cash.
No more dark corners and 10$ Jackhammer for me.

Awesome, I have been waiting for news like this. Hopefully it will stand tall here on NG

Holy shit Tom, you're the second coming of Christ
Way to go man!