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Response to Rev Share and RSS 2009-04-15 15:30:42 Reply

At 4/15/09 03:24 PM, PsychoGoldfish wrote:
At 4/15/09 03:23 PM, idiot-buster wrote: So how do you put in a advertisement on your userpage?
the ads are already on your userpage. You get a share from the in-page ad that's always been there. Youre welcome :D

I see a White box where the ad space was. Is this the space your talking about or the one just under how meny stickers I bought?


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Response to Rev Share and RSS 2009-04-15 15:31:12 Reply

At 4/15/09 03:21 PM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: The stats we get from the ad company are filtered so we can import them in less than a week. We only get stats if you made any monry, o if you have gotten 1k+ ad impressions. Without this filter, the whole system is just a big clusterfuck... you just have no idea!

So during those 5 days: I got impressions, but not enough to make money?

clickclickclickclickclickclick

Interesting that with only 11 impressions, that one song of mine made me the most money so far. Why is that? Expensive ads?


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Response to Rev Share and RSS 2009-04-15 15:31:16 Reply

Woah christ. I'm readin through all this, and this is a really good thing to do. Thanks!

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Response to Rev Share and RSS 2009-04-15 15:31:59 Reply

Someone will be always lucky!


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Response to Rev Share and RSS 2009-04-15 15:32:49 Reply

At 4/15/09 03:28 PM, Mattster wrote:
Thanks!
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Response to Rev Share and RSS 2009-04-15 15:33:35 Reply

At 4/15/09 03:31 PM, Rig wrote: Interesting that with only 11 impressions, that one song of mine made me the most money so far. Why is that? Expensive ads?

Yeah, best guess is that for that small number of users, you got lucky on results with the ad.


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Response to Rev Share and RSS 2009-04-15 15:35:13 Reply

At 4/15/09 03:31 PM, Rig wrote:
At 4/15/09 03:21 PM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: The stats we get from the ad company are filtered so we can import them in less than a week. We only get stats if you made any monry, o if you have gotten 1k+ ad impressions. Without this filter, the whole system is just a big clusterfuck... you just have no idea!
So during those 5 days: I got impressions, but not enough to make money?

clickclickclickclickclickclick
Interesting that with only 11 impressions, that one song of mine made me the most money so far. Why is that? Expensive ads?

That is because the ads are preformance based. For example... a game might get 10k views, but NOBODY clicks the ad. Then an AP song might get 10 views and one person clicks the ad.. signs up for whatever the product is and BAM, that AP song just made more money than the popular game.

We've been running ads in flash for a few years now, and have been testing these in-page ads since mid Feb. One thing I have noticed is that the people with the highest quality work and the most dedicated fans do the best. Personally I think that's awesome because it's rewarding hard work and dedication, rather than spammers.


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Response to Rev Share and RSS 2009-04-15 15:36:54 Reply

stupid question, what are impressions?


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Response to Rev Share and RSS 2009-04-15 15:37:24 Reply

At 4/15/09 03:36 PM, mariomusicmaker1 wrote: stupid question, what are impressions?

whenever someone sees an ad, that is an impression.


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Response to Rev Share and RSS 2009-04-15 15:41:52 Reply

This is wonderful.


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Response to Rev Share and RSS 2009-04-15 15:45:42 Reply

Do we get moneys (like fractions of pennies) when people see the ads in our flash submissions (I don't mean the API ones, I mean the pretty pictures that now show at the bottom of the screen when we watch flash submissions)?


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Response to Rev Share and RSS 2009-04-15 15:48:29 Reply

At 4/15/09 03:45 PM, UberCream wrote: Do we get moneys (like fractions of pennies) when people see the ads in our flash submissions (I don't mean the API ones, I mean the pretty pictures that now show at the bottom of the screen when we watch flash submissions)?

I believe you need to have people clicking the ads. Not viewing them :P
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Response to Rev Share and RSS 2009-04-15 15:49:49 Reply

At 4/15/09 03:19 PM, bob wrote:
I believe you will have to measure that in fractions of a penny everytime someone clicks an ad. Like Tom said, this is not life-changing or even day-to-day-changing money.

Makes sense. The site has bills that need to be paid to continue operation. The staff needs their salaries. I'm surprised you guys are moving toward giving us any money as it is (rather than decreasing hand-outs) with the current global economic situation.
I think it's awesome we're getting just this as it is.

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Response to Rev Share and RSS 2009-04-15 15:56:12 Reply

At 4/15/09 03:52 PM, RKthrilla wrote:
At 4/15/09 03:48 PM, Mattster wrote:
I believe you need to have people clicking the ads. Not viewing them :P
-Matt
Who seriously clicks on ads though?

Generous people who know that it will make the person money :)

That's my best guess.
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Response to Rev Share and RSS 2009-04-15 16:01:44 Reply

At 4/15/09 12:34 PM, TomFulp wrote: While PsychoGoldfish was working on the rev share system, Liljim has been overhauling and expanding our RSS feeds. Today we introduced feeds for new Flash and Audio by individual artists.

Its great, but do you think its possible to get these feeds on one's account page or inbox? kinda like deviantart and its message centre :3

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Response to Rev Share and RSS 2009-04-15 16:11:39 Reply

At 4/15/09 03:48 PM, Mattster wrote: I believe you need to have people clicking the ads. Not viewing them :P
-Matt

No, just viewing them. As mentioned a couple posts above.

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Response to Rev Share and RSS 2009-04-15 16:11:54 Reply

Guys, this is stellar.

I've been regularly coming to NG for about 5 years now, mostly enjoying the aspects of the forum community, dabbling in audio (and now a teensy bit in Flash, stay tuned)... and I just want you to know that this kind of system... this really, really cool system, is MORE than I would have ever expected in terms of "compensation." Not that I ever felt I needed any, but even so.

This sort of thing truly sets NG apart and resonates perfectly with the claim that NG isn't some sort of "faceless" corporation. My e-hat is off to the NG Staff; you all should truly be proud of what you've accomplished and I hope you believe me when I say I am as excited as you guys are for the massive potential this site has to unleash in the very near future.

I am set to enter the professional world of business in a few years, quite possibly to pursue marketing or PR. The ideals and attitude you guys have displayed are something that will certainly influence me in that regard.

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10/10
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Response to Rev Share and RSS 2009-04-15 16:21:19 Reply

At 4/15/09 03:35 PM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: One thing I have noticed is that the people with the highest quality work and the most dedicated fans do the best.

I LOVE YOU, FANS! :3


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Response to Rev Share and RSS 2009-04-15 16:33:02 Reply

Also, my self esteem requires that you extend that value out a few decimal points, see picture: hahah. ;)

Unless I'm not "signed up" or something. I figure that just refers to filling in all the required fields in the Payment Address section? Tom said to follow the instructions and that's all I could really see that applied (and I've had those details filled out since March-ish).

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Response to Rev Share and RSS 2009-04-15 16:42:27 Reply

So awesome! Tom, you are a saint!

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Response to Rev Share and RSS 2009-04-15 16:47:13 Reply

My self esteem has gone from low, to dangerously high!

<3
I love this new quick view on the account page :)
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Response to Rev Share and RSS 2009-04-15 16:57:46 Reply

Do you get any money for ad impressions, or only when someone actually clicks an ad? And is the revenue section on your userpage automatically updated or does it take a while?

Oh, and this is an awesome and selfless idea. Sorry to sounds lick ass, but Newgrounds really is a website that gives back to it's community, wether it's in competitions, give aways or even simple ad revenue.

We salute you, the people's republic of Newgrounds.


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Response to Rev Share and RSS 2009-04-15 16:58:19 Reply

Awesome Tom!


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Response to Rev Share and RSS 2009-04-15 17:00:33 Reply

At 4/15/09 04:47 PM, Mattster wrote: My self esteem has gone from low, to dangerously high!

Haha, it pays to have popular flash!

Seriously though, I just want to play with the graphs. =)


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Response to Rev Share and RSS 2009-04-15 17:02:24 Reply

I like the idea, but I still don't understand how to get money from our flashes, do we download them and put them into the fla. files or something? Sorry, I just want to get this right.
Also, do we automatically get money from our account once we do the billing address thing, or do we need to confirm somthing or add somthing to it?
Sorry, I know I'm a little slow...


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Response to Rev Share and RSS 2009-04-15 17:07:14 Reply

At 4/15/09 05:00 PM, Zerok wrote:
At 4/15/09 04:47 PM, Mattster wrote: My self esteem has gone from low, to dangerously high!
Haha, it pays to have popular flash!

Seriously though, I just want to play with the graphs. =)

I know eh? I just love the interactive flash for viewing the earnings. Click a button, and it switches. I like this new interface over the old buildings and such, LINES EVERYWHERE!
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Response to Rev Share and RSS 2009-04-15 17:10:42 Reply

At 4/15/09 05:02 PM, CSanimations wrote: I like the idea, but I still don't understand how to get money from our flashes, do we download them and put them into the fla. files or something? Sorry, I just want to get this right.

http://www.newgrounds.com/account/flasha pi/

You do have to update your flash to install the ads, yes. This sytem has been around for quite some time though. The NEW system that Tom et al. are talking about today involves a much more passive paradigm: basically you can now get credit for any ads viewed and/or clicked on that are on pages affiliated with you (your userpage, your audio submissions, etc.)

Also, do we automatically get money from our account once we do the billing address thing, or do we need to confirm somthing or add somthing to it?

Not entirely sure. I think once teh billing stuff is filled out you're plugged in. I'd like a smidgen of clarity on that front as well.

At 4/15/09 05:05 PM, SevenSeize wrote: Same here, I didn't see anywhere to sign up, so filling out the info is all I've done as well.

I am pretty sure that's all there is to it.


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Response to Rev Share and RSS 2009-04-15 17:14:43 Reply

At 4/15/09 05:10 PM, Zerok wrote: Not entirely sure. I think once teh billing stuff is filled out you're plugged in. I'd like a smidgen of clarity on that front as well.

Yup, once you fill out your address, the system starts running on your pages.


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Response to Rev Share and RSS 2009-04-15 17:14:45 Reply

Sounds neat...

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Response to Rev Share and RSS 2009-04-15 17:14:59 Reply

So question.
I have an animation that I submitted a while back through the Flash API system. Have I lost all the money that the submission earned?
And number two, how do you add ads to flashes now? Is it the same as before?


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