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At 4/12/09 01:36 PM, lVlad wrote:

At 4/12/09 12:32 PM, frigi wrote:

that is a flawed thought. God exists outside of time (if you believe him). Thus there was no time when god existed before he created the universe. Noone can accurately grasp this concept. Which makes sense considering that it would only be a concept that someone outside of time could understand.

I made a post about God on my profile that no one commented on, so I might as well just paraphrase it

God exists in a different plane than us (supposedly). This is how he can be everywhere at once, but seemingly no where, and how can he have always existed, because technically although he doesn't exist here, but he's been around at least as long as this plane has. It's hard to say if God experiences time as we do, I like to think of him as either a Dr. Manhattan or Muad Dib type deal though. Either time to him is relative, set in stone, but at any give time he is at any given time. OR, he does experience time in a chronological fashion as we do, it's just he sees everything in advance, or he sees how what he does changes the future. But this is more a broad scope as God would see it for everything, not just him personally.

Either way is interesting to think about. I don't believe in God, but I must admit, thinking about him is really interesting.

This God could also be an all powerful spaghetti monster or maybe an angsty kid with a magnifying glass on the world slowly fucking us up for his amusement.

If God could exist in all of time or outside of time and inside or on another dimensional plane to all known matter then to be honest he'd still be a total dick for creating everything so fucked up and letting everything play out for good or bad ( an excuse for lazy parents maybe? )

The whole thing sounds like a science experiment left in the cupboard to fester because after God got over the wow factor of the different types of mold and creatures he couldn't give a toss anymore.

The only good reason religion is only still around is people want a community where they have common beliefs and so get along ( fair enough )
Just had to be warped out of perspective by some power hungry wank-stain excuses for people who can give people hope for their dead relatives to live on and for their lives to be meaningful even if they don't contribute... we're as meaningful as a blade of grass but we can become smarter stronger and better in many ways without the tale of noahs ark...Moses's tale on the other hand is useful*

*The holy books are full of good moral stories made to teach us right from wrong but got screwed up by a bunch of scare tactic using hypocrites.

I'd also just like to add : The Pope is one utterly closed minded fuck-wit of a puppet - not a leader ( in case you thought otherwise )

Here's a gif to illustrate how I feel when the pope talks of his view on the world.

( The bird is the pope and it's shit is his words )

nawwww....

he started playing DDR and it took a while to AAA maxx unlimited

What do all guys do when they're bored, alone, and don't have anything to do.. Wakka wakka Whacka.

At 4/13/09 11:22 PM, tsdeath1 wrote: you can't just go around telling people what to believe

Let's see here:

At 4/12/09 05:10 PM, bodom-child wrote: no I'm afraid NOT Sorry about that one "god"

At 4/12/09 05:04 PM, MetalSlimeHunt wrote: There is no God.

At 4/12/09 03:53 PM, halfangelfreak wrote: God is nonsense.

At 4/12/09 12:59 PM, daniel123297 wrote: god is a lie, evolution, adam and eve is bullshit (inbreeding.)

NO, REALLLYYYYYY? I do believe you're facing the wrong crowd.

Who cares About God. Fuck God. He's a god damn panzie!

At 4/14/09 02:09 AM, MRedDragonO1 wrote: Who cares About God. Fuck God. He's a god damn panzie!

Well said lol
But watch out of that flying spaghetti monster - he's big and he bites!

Originally it was a singularity. The entire universe compressed into a space the size of a proton.

Then, there was a discrepency. It grew and expanded, multiplied.

And here we are, infinite discrepencies trying to figure eachother out and calling it "God."

At 4/14/09 02:23 AM, Lagerkapo wrote: Originally it was a singularity. The entire universe compressed into a space the size of a proton.

Then, there was a discrepency. It grew and expanded, multiplied.

And here we are, infinite discrepencies trying to figure eachother out and calling it "God."

What did the original singularity come from..... the little bastard keeps me up at night with it's retarded mystery.
The idea of God makes me laugh and also feel sad...but then I laugh again

At 4/14/09 02:29 AM, Chimp-eat-me wrote: What did the original singularity come from..... the little bastard keeps me up at night with it's retarded mystery.

The choice. It was either nothingneess or somethingness. The choice in and of itself created somethingness.

The beauty of it is that you can experience it without understanding it.

If you truly understood it it would cease to be, because you would BE the entirety of it. To be all of everything at once is just that: at once: a static singularity.

In order to experience it you cannot understand it.

At 4/14/09 02:34 AM, Lagerkapo wrote:

At 4/14/09 02:29 AM, Chimp-eat-me wrote: What did the original singularity come from..... the little bastard keeps me up at night with it's retarded mystery.

The choice. It was either nothingneess or somethingness. The choice in and of itself created somethingness.

The beauty of it is that you can experience it without understanding it.

If you truly understood it it would cease to be, because you would BE the entirety of it. To be all of everything at once is just that: at once: a static singularity.

In order to experience it you cannot understand it.

Did you steal my weed? Give it back man, that's good stuff!
I thought you would affect everything by observing it but by understanding it? ... I don't get that arguement

80 percent of New Grounds user are Atheist.

At 4/14/09 04:34 AM, JollySpace wrote: 80 percent of New Grounds user are Atheist.

A survey showed that it was more like 25%.

At 4/14/09 06:12 AM, andhination wrote:

At 4/14/09 04:34 AM, JollySpace wrote: 80 percent of New Grounds user are Atheist.

A survey showed that it was more like 25%.

I forgot to ask: Where's the survey to prove how beliefs are split?

At 4/12/09 03:06 PM, shackles1 wrote: You people are making my brain hurt! Can't we all just agree that we're here right now and that it doesn't really fuckin matter when time started or when/how the universe was made?! Holy shit!

Fuckin' seconded

At 4/14/09 06:15 AM, Chimp-eat-me wrote:

At 4/14/09 06:12 AM, andhination wrote:

At 4/14/09 04:34 AM, JollySpace wrote: 80 percent of New Grounds user are Atheist.

A survey showed that it was more like 25%.

I forgot to ask: Where's the survey to prove how beliefs are split?

There was a thread a little while back. It was open for absolute ages. Most forum users at the time would have posted. I don't recall what it was called, but you could always look for it.

At 4/12/09 12:34 PM, TheAmateurAnimator wrote: According to St. Aquinas, before God made the universe he was preparing a special place in Hell for people who ask those kinds of questions.

Wow, God's kind of a dick.

Kind of?

Guys, I made the universe for the lulz, no more questions!

At 4/13/09 10:30 PM, Falconpunchr wrote: but how was god created?

With two sides of bacon.

Wait... What.

At 4/14/09 06:12 AM, andhination wrote:

At 4/14/09 04:34 AM, JollySpace wrote: 80 percent of New Grounds user are Atheist.

A survey showed that it was more like 25%.

I don't know if there's ever REALLY been a fair survey done. If it's done over the BBS and whatnot, and the fact that you're only going to get the more passionate to respond, etc.

At 4/12/09 12:32 PM, frigi wrote: in the bible it begins with god making everything. well if he has been around forever and the universe has only been around for some thousand years (acording to the bible) then there is a long time frame of pre universe.

did he just sit around all that time?
had test universes?

I'd think we are one of those 'test' universes... Obviously a failure. Probably one of his early prototypes; sigh...

At 4/14/09 08:20 AM, HandsomePete wrote:

At 4/14/09 06:12 AM, andhination wrote:

At 4/14/09 04:34 AM, JollySpace wrote: 80 percent of New Grounds user are Atheist.

A survey showed that it was more like 25%.

I don't know if there's ever REALLY been a fair survey done. If it's done over the BBS and whatnot, and the fact that you're only going to get the more passionate to respond, etc.

Eh, true. But it was open for months on end, so I think it was about as fair as one is going to get on here.

I think he was just bored when he made us, and he grew to love us. i think he probably had made other universes before us. We're probably the universe mach ... like, 70, I don't know. All I know is that the Bible says that God always was there, and I know he couldn't have just been sitting around doing nothing.

Anyway, that's from my point of view.

At 4/12/09 12:32 PM, frigi wrote: did he just sit around all that time?
had test universes?

no one ever talks about that.

You sound like you're joking around but I'll give you a serious answer.

I'd just like to tell you that seeing as God invented time there would be no reason that he would have to be sitting around DOING something for a certain amount of time, the concept of time doesn't even exist to him.

That's like if I asked what you were doing in all of that time before you were even born. It's an invalid question. The concept of time didn't even exist to you.

I understand that some people can consider the existence of some kind of deity, in whatever form it may be, perhaps a being in a higher dimension or simply the energy/mass within the original singularity.

What I don't agree with is creating individual religions to fulfil some kind of egotistical omnipotent 'God'. All these religions suggest that their god is the god and that for some reason he feels the need to be worshipped, as well as inciting hatred and often violence onto those that disagree with him. Sounds like an ideology people would follow thousands of years ago, for various reasons though people still do.

I'm not trying to force anything on anyone, just felt like adding my thoughts.

At 4/12/09 12:34 PM, TheAmateurAnimator wrote: Wow, God's kind of a dick.

He always was. He is basically a murderer.

At 4/14/09 12:21 PM, flashwarrior wrote:

At 4/12/09 12:34 PM, TheAmateurAnimator wrote: Wow, God's kind of a dick.

He always was. He is basically a murderer.

How could God possibly be a murderer when he created all life. He could kill everyone and it wouldn't matter because they are his in the first place.

At 4/14/09 12:25 PM, MushookieMan wrote:

At 4/14/09 12:21 PM, flashwarrior wrote:

At 4/12/09 12:34 PM, TheAmateurAnimator wrote: Wow, God's kind of a dick.

He always was. He is basically a murderer.

How could God possibly be a murderer when he created all life. He could kill everyone and it wouldn't matter because they are his in the first place.

In your context I'd have to equate:

If God determines / knows everything and creates them for a purpose then:

God creates man + God kills man = God is a sadistically playful dickhead.

Anyway, im getting tired of chatting right now. Many people live in denial everyday.

Many people? The majority of people in the world right now are christians, so they are living in denial, i already knew that so basically you agree you are trolling.