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Response to Lolicon and shotacon: opinions? 2009-04-08 00:44:05 Reply

I don't like lolicon because the girls don't look real enough.

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Response to Lolicon and shotacon: opinions? 2009-04-08 00:44:28 Reply

They're like how videogames can keep psychopathics from killing people.

As in, they're like a "simulation" of the real thing, which in turn can either provoke your interests of pedophallic activities, or keep them at bay.

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Response to Lolicon and shotacon: opinions? 2009-04-08 00:49:43 Reply

At 4/8/09 12:44 AM, Sawdust wrote: They're like how videogames can keep psychopathics from killing people.

As in, they're like a "simulation" of the real thing, which in turn can either provoke your interests of pedophallic activities, or keep them at bay.

I was thinking of video games, too. I love killing people in the games, but I have no desire to do that in real life. Same thing with loli and shotacon, I may like looking at it, but I don't want to go and do anything to real people because of it.

At 4/8/09 12:31 AM, Gagsy wrote: Think of it as having a fat kid. The kid eats too much chocolate, but do you blame the chocolate factory for that or the kid who won't control their urges?

In America, chocolate factory gets blamed and sued. But yeah, personal accountability. We've got to stop blaming inanimate objects for our actions and start taking responsibility for the things we do.


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Response to Lolicon and shotacon: opinions? 2009-04-08 00:52:34 Reply

At 4/8/09 12:49 AM, Sensationalism wrote:
In America, chocolate factory gets blamed and sued. But yeah, personal accountability. We've got to stop blaming inanimate objects for our actions and start taking responsibility for the things we do.

That's not how it works. Sounds like you hate America! Love it or leave it! If you screw up, it's someone else's fault for not catching your mistake!


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Response to Lolicon and shotacon: opinions? 2009-04-08 00:53:34 Reply

At 4/8/09 12:49 AM, Sensationalism wrote:

At 4/8/09 12:31 AM, Gagsy wrote: Think of it as having a fat kid. The kid eats too much chocolate, but do you blame the chocolate factory for that or the kid who won't control their urges?
In America, chocolate factory gets blamed and sued. But yeah, personal accountability. We've got to stop blaming inanimate objects for our actions and start taking responsibility for the things we do.

So what would blur the line between "the real thing" and what's on paper? Some would say that merely looking at it wouldn't be wrong, would it?

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Response to Lolicon and shotacon: opinions? 2009-04-08 00:59:44 Reply

At 4/8/09 12:36 AM, galatea1 wrote:
Chocolate has some benefit. Used in moderation, it supplies energy, contains small amounts of antioxidants and harmlessly raises endorphin levels. It is a food, and we need food. We do not need porn, really, of any kind. To me, loli and shouta are even worse than the usual.

"Used in moderation"

I'm not talking about moderation though, I'm talking about over doing something. Alcohol then, try and argue that one away. You get alkies, they do need to drink yes, but water is always available in countries that had easy supply to booze, yet people get addicted to it and drink more. Still it's not meant to be drunk like that, so it is the persons fault completely.

We don't need porn? I'm on the fence with that one. Every adult has sexual urges. In terms of us as animals those urges are to get us making babies, but in terms of us as humans, we don't want to have babies everytime we get horny. Just want to have fun, if you can't have fun with a partner then what's left? Masturbation is not a sin, therefore porn is not a sin.


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Response to Lolicon and shotacon: opinions? 2009-04-08 01:08:18 Reply

At 4/8/09 12:59 AM, Gagsy wrote:

We don't need porn? I'm on the fence with that one. Every adult has sexual urges. In terms of us as animals those urges are to get us making babies, but in terms of us as humans, we don't want to have babies everytime we get horny. Just want to have fun, if you can't have fun with a partner then what's left? Masturbation is not a sin, therefore porn is not a sin.

Most religions either blatantly or subtley condemn fornication as a sin. Therefore, if fornication is a sin, wouldn't looking at it and supporting it be a sin?

You can masturbate without porn.

Alcohol also has some nutritional and health benefits, by the way. :D

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Response to Lolicon and shotacon: opinions? 2009-04-08 01:18:13 Reply

At 4/8/09 01:08 AM, galatea1 wrote: if fornication is a sin, wouldn't looking at it and supporting it be a sin?

not all pornography depicts sinful behavior

By the way, am I the reason you started this thread? If you look at my profile, you'll notice I removed all my lolicon flashes. And, I don't plan to make any more of them.

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Response to Lolicon and shotacon: opinions? 2009-04-08 01:24:49 Reply

At 4/8/09 01:18 AM, Dark-Kitten wrote:
At 4/8/09 01:08 AM, galatea1 wrote: if fornication is a sin, wouldn't looking at it and supporting it be a sin?
not all pornography depicts sinful behavior

By the way, am I the reason you started this thread? If you look at my profile, you'll notice I removed all my lolicon flashes. And, I don't plan to make any more of them.

Actually, I had several members in mind; but I'm glad to know you've removed yours. Your flashes were good; you didn't need that crap messing it up!!
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Response to Lolicon and shotacon: opinions? 2009-04-08 01:44:32 Reply

pedophilia is specified as a form of paraphilia in which a person either has acted on intense sexual urges towards children or experiences recurrent sexual urges towards and fantasies about children that cause distress or interpersonal difficulty

So you are only a pedophile if you act on the urge. Otherwise it's just a fetish like spandex or other things. So how is anyone getting hurt for you rubbing one out to some pictures of a nude child? I find that a much better alternative to going out and raping a child.


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Response to Lolicon and shotacon: opinions? 2009-04-08 01:47:47 Reply

At 4/8/09 01:44 AM, MasterRater wrote: pedophilia is specified as a form of paraphilia in which a person either has acted on intense sexual urges towards children or experiences recurrent sexual urges towards and fantasies about children that cause distress or interpersonal difficulty

Your description mentions that merely having very strong urges qualifies as pedophilia. So, wouldn't masturbating to graphic images of children qualify?

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Response to Lolicon and shotacon: opinions? 2009-04-08 01:48:37 Reply

At 4/8/09 01:44 AM, MasterRater wrote: pedophilia is specified as a form of paraphilia in which a person either has acted on intense sexual urges towards children or experiences recurrent sexual urges towards and fantasies about children that cause distress or interpersonal difficulty

So you are only a pedophile if you act on the urge.

no, plz read your definition more carefully. It says you can be one if you have sexual inclinations toward children that "cause distress or interpersonal difficulty"

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Response to Lolicon and shotacon: opinions? 2009-04-08 01:48:24 Reply

At 4/8/09 01:08 AM, galatea1 wrote:
Most religions either blatantly or subtley condemn fornication as a sin. Therefore, if fornication is a sin, wouldn't looking at it and supporting it be a sin?

Religious beliefs as an argument. Hmm, good luck with that. That'll stop my body from tingling. God doesn't want me to get turned on so I won't! Tell that to horny priests.

You can masturbate without porn.

And I do usually, but that's not the point.

Alcohol also has some nutritional and health benefits, by the way. :D

Lolicon isn't bad for you in moderation. In fact, it eases a certain tension in my body, which I'd say is a good thing =] I don't feel the urge to go further with my desires, but if I did it wouldn't be Japans fault, just mine.


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Response to Lolicon and shotacon: opinions? 2009-04-08 01:51:47 Reply

At 4/8/09 01:47 AM, galatea1 wrote: Your description mentions that merely having very strong urges qualifies as pedophilia. So, wouldn't masturbating to graphic images of children qualify?

The definition I used was from wikipedia. I just believe that if you have a sexual attraction to children you are not a pedophile unless you act upon those urges as I mentioned in my retort to the definition.


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Response to Lolicon and shotacon: opinions? 2009-04-08 01:52:49 Reply

At 4/8/09 01:48 AM, Gagsy wrote:
At 4/8/09 01:08 AM, galatea1 wrote:
Most religions either blatantly or subtley condemn fornication as a sin. Therefore, if fornication is a sin, wouldn't looking at it and supporting it be a sin?
Religious beliefs as an argument. Hmm, good luck with that.

Weren't you the one to mention sin? Without some belief in a higher power, there is no sin. That's why I used this reference.

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Response to Lolicon and shotacon: opinions? 2009-04-08 01:56:53 Reply

At 4/7/09 11:48 PM, Digital-Terror wrote: As long as real children aren't suffering, it's fine with me.

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Response to Lolicon and shotacon: opinions? 2009-04-08 01:56:51 Reply

At 4/8/09 01:52 AM, galatea1 wrote:
Weren't you the one to mention sin? Without some belief in a higher power, there is no sin. That's why I used this reference.

Sin = Something bad/taboo

To me anything it doesn't have to do with religion.


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Response to Lolicon and shotacon: opinions? 2009-04-08 01:58:00 Reply

What the hell just happened to this thread?


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Response to Lolicon and shotacon: opinions? 2009-04-08 01:58:04 Reply

At 4/8/09 01:56 AM, Gagsy wrote:
Sin = Something bad/taboo

To me anything it doesn't have to do with religion.

Typo city.

To me anyway it doesn't have to do with religion.

Seriously as long as people aren't hurting children, what's the problem?


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Response to Lolicon and shotacon: opinions? 2009-04-08 02:03:50 Reply

You must click on some crazy topics to actually see hentai on the forums. Just saying.
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Response to Lolicon and shotacon: opinions? 2009-04-08 02:13:37 Reply

It is fucking gross. It just screams pedo to me. I don;t care if it is cartoons, it still encourages that kind of behavior.

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Response to Lolicon and shotacon: opinions? 2009-04-08 02:20:42 Reply

You can't compare cartoon to real life.
That's a child's mistake due to the poor perception of reality, that usually is easily corrected by experience or good parents.

Like take a cartoon or an anime that is obscenely violent, it doesn't make you want to kill something, or kick some guy's ass.
Just like Loli or Shota, viewing cartoon porn involving children should not make you want to fuck children, even by some awkward scenario in which you are impulsively aroused by it.

Granted there is an influence around it that pedophiles use as an excuse, but that's the pedophiles' fault, not the content.

It's a matter of preference, which I do not prefer for the record, but I do wonder about the artist of such immoral pictures.


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Response to Lolicon and shotacon: opinions? 2009-04-08 02:22:22 Reply

At 4/7/09 11:47 PM, galatea1 wrote:

, "it's not real child porn. A cartoon can't be a victim". I myself do think it is child porn.

technically it cant be child porn b/c it is not a living child its most likly a cartoon(dont kno havent actually looked at this stuff) The fact is its merely a cartoona nd if we could get pedos 2 look at this, they might stop messing wit children!!


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Response to Lolicon and shotacon: opinions? 2009-04-08 02:31:57 Reply

Nice signature ya got there, knuxrouge...

I'm fine with what people do in their own home. As long as it isn't terrorism.
But (according to YOU, gala), people are putting up loli and shota pics in the forums. I don't think that's something to share on a public site.


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Response to Lolicon and shotacon: opinions? 2009-04-08 02:33:52 Reply

At 4/8/09 12:44 AM, Dark-Kitten wrote: I don't like lolicon because the girls don't look real enough.

Ok... you are one creepy little girl. Plus, it seems you use lolicon pics in your Flashes.


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Response to Lolicon and shotacon: opinions? 2009-04-08 02:41:44 Reply

At 4/8/09 02:33 AM, Robotchk12 wrote: Plus, it seems you use lolicon pics in your Flashes.

like I said, I removed them (or tried to) the only left is one but it has over 400 votes so I can't remove it.

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At 4/8/09 02:13 AM, BenwaHakubi wrote: It is fucking gross. It just screams pedo to me. I don;t care if it is cartoons, it still encourages that kind of behavior.

In England, sometimes the spell is paedo.


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Response to Lolicon and shotacon: opinions? 2009-04-08 03:13:16 Reply

If you watch shotacon, your eyes will bleed. Literally.

Lolicon...I don't find it THAT disgusting, but I don't like it either.


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Response to Lolicon and shotacon: opinions? 2009-04-08 04:12:12 Reply

WELL, I find lolicon to actually be better for me. Since I am at a young age I gradually start picking up on older woman and try to keep my age, so I use Lolicon to see girls at my age, and since I am into Hentai I really like it.
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Response to Lolicon and shotacon: opinions? 2009-04-08 04:29:07 Reply

At 4/7/09 11:50 PM, Franklin-Moore wrote: It either keeps the pedos inside masturbating to it, or it just encourages them to go molest younger children.

Molest younger children, hey?

That gives me an idea!