This really bugs the hell out of me.

I've noticed it rearing it's ugly little head around here lately, both in the portal and in the forums. Someone in the upper echelon here told me, in effect, "it's not real child porn. A cartoon can't be a victim". I myself do think it is child porn. So, dear NGers what are your opinions? Let's keep it clean and please: no pics for emphasis.

People watching it are pedophiles. But it hurts nobody until the watcher decides to go one step further.

At 4/7/09 11:47 PM, galatea1 wrote: This really bugs the hell out of me.

I've noticed it rearing it's ugly little head around here lately, both in the portal and in the forums. Someone in the upper echelon here told me, in effect, "it's not real child porn. A cartoon can't be a victim". I myself do think it is child porn. So, dear NGers what are your opinions? Let's keep it clean and please: no pics for emphasis.

i always wondered that too, if the fbi raided your comp and found some lolicon would they arrest you for having child pornography?

As long as they don't try to take their fantasy to reality, it's fine.

But if they do decide to bring their fantasy to real life, Chris Hansen will be there to have them take a seat.

people have been raping children since the dawn of time.. making weird hentai porn is sick and disgusting but i dont think it makes pedophiles.

I (unfortunatly) know what Lolicon is, but...Shotacon? That's a new one.

Well, I feel I should let people get off on their fetish with cartoon art, because that's just how they roll. But if they turn it into actions, I'd have a problem with it. Just like if someone gets off on say, cutting off someone's genitals. I don't exactly approve of someone cutting off another person's genitals, but if they get off on the porn, it doesn't bug me. I won't look at it.

I've looked up lolicon like 3 times. They aren't real, so I'm fine with it.

At 4/7/09 11:48 PM, Digital-Terror wrote: As long as real children aren't suffering, it's fine with me.

I'm just afraid that it will turn an idle thought into a full-blown desire in some people who already have this tendency. And I have to wonder if people who are into it already have that tendency.

At 4/7/09 11:53 PM, Podburrys wrote: I (unfortunatly) know what Lolicon is, but...Shotacon? That's a new one.

Lolicon: young girl/ adult ... Shotacon: young boy/ adult

Shotacon hurts everybody.....

Everybody

At 4/7/09 11:53 PM, Podburrys wrote: I (unfortunatly) know what Lolicon is, but...Shotacon? That's a new one.

It's like loli, only with little boys.

Yeah, they both disturb me, but as long as nobody gets hurt, I'm fine.

shits mad hot in this observers humble opinion. when i see a 5 yr old grrl butt ass nekked w/ their itty bitty titties & crazy tight virgin pussies... its just... the bees metaphorical knees. im finna nut all over their pigtails & dora the explorer dolls just thinkin bout it. idc if theyre real or cartoon :-P

I personally like both lolicon and shotacon, they are probably my favourite kind of hentai. However, I do not find myself attracted to little kids or want to get involved with them sexually.

It ISN'T child porn. The characters have adult like qualities, especially in lolicon where the girls have boobs and they get wet, cum, blah. I'm pretty sure real little girls don't.

At 4/7/09 11:53 PM, Podburrys wrote: I (unfortunatly) know what Lolicon is, but...Shotacon? That's a new one.

Shotacon is young boys with older women, I believe.

What the fuck is lolicon and shotacon?

Lolicon sounds like a fucking kung fu style involving lolipops.

Shotacon sounds like a martial art that involves guns.

At 4/7/09 11:56 PM, galatea1 wrote:

At 4/7/09 11:53 PM, Podburrys wrote: I (unfortunatly) know what Lolicon is, but...Shotacon? That's a new one.

Lolicon: young girl/ adult ... Shotacon: young boy/ adult

Huh. I just thought they were both the same thing. I can't help but feel we should all blame Japan for this utter disgrace to the human race.

Unintentional yet funny/inappropriate time for a rhyme...oh wow, that was too. :O

It's not child pornography. As long as people don't act on their thoughts, it's all good.

At 4/8/09 12:02 AM, Podburrys wrote:

Huh. I just thought they were both the same thing. I can't help but feel we should all blame Japan for this utter disgrace to the human race.

"Yes I did rape those kids, but it wasn't my fault! Japan were the ones who made those damn lolicon hentais that I couldn't stop watching, even though it was my choice in the first place to watch them. Then my need became too much so I turned to Child Porn and then turned to just raping kids. But if Japan hasn't made those hentais I'd never have done it!"

Yeah that'd go down well. If you'reattracted to little kids and molest it, it ain't nobodies fault but the fuck up pedos who do it.

At 4/8/09 12:10 AM, Gagsy wrote:

At 4/8/09 12:02 AM, Podburrys wrote:

Yeah that'd go down well. If you'reattracted to little kids and molest it, it ain't nobodies fault but the fuck up pedos who do it.

But don't you think this sort of thing feeds into their minds?

Case in point: in California, not too far from where I lived, there used to be a place where members of a certain pedophilic group met regularily. Their constitutionsl right gave them freedom of assembly; and there's nothing wrong with a meeting in and of itself; but wouldn't this sort of thing feed dangerous tendencies?

At 4/8/09 12:15 AM, galatea1 wrote:
Case in point: in California, not too far from where I lived, there used to be a place where members of a certain pedophilic group met regularily. Their constitutionsl right gave them freedom of assembly; and there's nothing wrong with a meeting in and of itself; but wouldn't this sort of thing feed dangerous tendencies?

Thats sounds awful. I'm sure people within the area were worried sick.

At 4/8/09 12:19 AM, SaltyBomb wrote:

At 4/8/09 12:15 AM, galatea1 wrote:

Thats sounds awful. I'm sure people within the area were worried sick.

They were. To be perfectly honest, I don't know if they're meeting there anymore. I considered searching for it; but I guess that's the sort of search I don't want on my computer.

At 4/8/09 12:15 AM, galatea1 wrote:

But don't you think this sort of thing feeds into their minds?

Case in point: in California, not too far from where I lived, there used to be a place where members of a certain pedophilic group met regularily. Their constitutionsl right gave them freedom of assembly; and there's nothing wrong with a meeting in and of itself; but wouldn't this sort of thing feed dangerous tendencies?

How about a better example.

There was a case a few years ago in this country about a guy who raped and killed a woman. His computer was found to have shit loads of rape porn on them. Obviously, his desire for rape grew so much that watching wasn't enough, he had to feel what it was like, so he did it. Had there been so internet yes maybe he would have kept his lusting at bay, thinking it was just weird and trying to live a normal life, but it doesn't matter. He was the one who looked for that porn, he was the one who watched it, he was the one who got off on it, and let it grow on to something even more terrible.

Think of it as having a fat kid. The kid eats too much chocolate, but do you blame the chocolate factory for that or the kid who won't control their urges?

WELL, I find lolicon to actually be better for me. Since I am at a young age I gradually start picking up on older woman and try to keep my age, so I use Lolicon to see girls at my age, and since I am into Hentai I really like it.

Older people that watch it are fucked up though, I am serious go watch Adult age porn. Your just fucking weird

At 4/8/09 12:31 AM, Gagsy wrote:

At 4/8/09 12:15 AM, galatea1 wrote:

There was a case a few years ago in this country about a guy who raped and killed a woman. His computer was found to have shit loads of rape porn on them. Obviously, his desire for rape grew so much that watching wasn't enough, he had to feel what it was like, so he did it. Had there been so internet yes maybe he would have kept his lusting at bay, thinking it was just weird and trying to live a normal life, but it doesn't matter. He was the one who looked for that porn, he was the one who watched it, he was the one who got off on it, and let it grow on to something even more terrible.

Chocolate has some benefit. Used in moderation, it supplies energy, contains small amounts of antioxidants and harmlessly raises endorphin levels. It is a food, and we need food. We do not need porn, really, of any kind. To me, loli and shouta are even worse than the usual.

At 4/8/09 12:18 AM, ZyklonB wrote: They sell used girl panties in stores and you're making a fuss about cartoon porn. This is sort of like the discussion about how violent video games turn kids into murderers

LOL where, this side of Japan, do they sell used girl underpants in stores?

And it is a proven fact that people who are into gorey- violent video games have more behavioral problems than those who aren't.

...and that IS a viable discussion. But to me, the loli--shouta thing is more sensitive. Because there is something that is far more likely to turn a child into a felon than any video game and that's molestation. (That's one reason why felons are so violently against sex offenders. Many wouldn't be in prison if they weren't once victims.)

I don't like lolicon because the girls don't look real enough.

They're like how videogames can keep psychopathics from killing people.

As in, they're like a "simulation" of the real thing, which in turn can either provoke your interests of pedophallic activities, or keep them at bay.

At 4/8/09 12:49 AM, Sensationalism wrote:

In America, chocolate factory gets blamed and sued. But yeah, personal accountability. We've got to stop blaming inanimate objects for our actions and start taking responsibility for the things we do.

That's not how it works. Sounds like you hate America! Love it or leave it! If you screw up, it's someone else's fault for not catching your mistake!

At 4/8/09 12:49 AM, Sensationalism wrote:

At 4/8/09 12:31 AM, Gagsy wrote: Think of it as having a fat kid. The kid eats too much chocolate, but do you blame the chocolate factory for that or the kid who won't control their urges?

In America, chocolate factory gets blamed and sued. But yeah, personal accountability. We've got to stop blaming inanimate objects for our actions and start taking responsibility for the things we do.

So what would blur the line between "the real thing" and what's on paper? Some would say that merely looking at it wouldn't be wrong, would it?