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At 4/26/09 02:09 AM, SmilingIdiot wrote: and lesson learned...i dont have what it takes to draw on a canvas that big

Looking good. Now those arms need to be fixed so they look the same length. The arm that's straight is too short anatomy wise. Needs to be bent a bit. It kinda gay but if you try to sit like that you'll see what I'm talking about.

I think you have what it takes man keep at it. You said it's your first one? doing pretty good imo. Just takes more patience but you have this Hi res pic in the end that makes it all worth while.

At 4/26/09 02:09 AM, SmilingIdiot wrote: the asain girls(rensomething?) name

Nene. =O

Anyway, I just want someone else to know how annoying it was to finish my poster [over a period of 2 weeks], look at it obscurely and then redo it [In under a day] cause I'm a perfectionist slut like that.

Also, anything I've missed?

Cause I have no idea who and how MAC runs...

At 4/25/09 05:24 PM, Vortex00 wrote:
Thanks, this is typically my cup of tea. I'll probably do something with the text though, just haven't worked anything out yet. And also fix a few shading issues I recently noticed.

But really what do you use? what program, or is this just the beauty of a wacom and skill in Photoshop

At 4/26/09 03:12 AM, Vortex00 wrote:

At 4/26/09 02:09 AM, SmilingIdiot wrote: and lesson learned...i dont have what it takes to draw on a canvas that big

Looking good. Now those arms need to be fixed so they look the same length. The arm that's straight is too short anatomy wise. Needs to be bent a bit. It kinda gay but if you try to sit like that you'll see what I'm talking about.

I think you have what it takes man keep at it. You said it's your first one? doing pretty good imo. Just takes more patience but you have this Hi res pic in the end that makes it all worth while.

hmm...well if you look at the shoulder...you will see there is presure on it...causing it to go up...i did sit in this position and as i said before it hurt...crushed my grapes if you know what i mean...but i learned a few things while in that position...i now know that its possible to put your self in that position, guys shouldnt sit like this,...and after the popping of your nuts its very painful

At 4/26/09 04:06 AM, SmilingIdiot wrote:

hmm...well if you look at the shoulder...you will see there is presure on it...causing it to go up...i did sit in this position and as i said before it hurt...crushed my grapes if you know what i mean...but i learned a few things while in that position...i now know that its possible to put your self in that position, guys shouldnt sit like this,...and after the popping of your nuts its very painful

I think it looked better without the second arm you added.
Also make her left arm thinner and not go so high. And fix her knee/thigh that is overlapping. Cause it looks like a bad of sausages or something haha :D

At 4/26/09 03:16 AM, Kuoke wrote: Also, anything I've missed?

nothing I can tell immediately. The only thing I would say is the perspective of the head phones. But that would depend on hows she's wearing them. if it's supposed to be over both ears then it's a little off, of not then it's fine.

At 4/26/09 03:26 AM, megashell wrote: But really what do you use? what program, or is this just the beauty of a wacom and skill in Photoshop

I sketch in photoshop cs2 bring it into flash 8 where I make the lines, then port back to photoshop to color. Indeed a wacom does help as well as some know how. But as I mentioned if I'm drawing anything at all this is typically the type of stuff I draw anyways. I would hope it looked at least half way decent by now >.>;

At 4/26/09 04:06 AM, SmilingIdiot wrote: hmm...well if you look at the shoulder...you will see there is presure on it...

Maybe I just have long as hell arms or something lol..

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did a lot of small changes you may or may not notice. I'm thinking this the final.

A bit of progress since last time.. Any good advise?

At 4/26/09 04:48 PM, Lundsfryd wrote: A bit of progress since last time.. Any good advise?

her left breast(stage right) seems smaller the the other one...i guess thats about what i got

after trying to fix this up and colour it i realized i forgot to put it back the its orriginal size and ended up colouring with it on a smaller scale....causing so much to be lost when i put it back to 5x7 inches...i hade to redo the line art and some of the colouring

At 4/26/09 05:58 PM, SmilingIdiot wrote: after trying to fix this up and colour it i realized i forgot to put it back the its orriginal size and ended up colouring with it on a smaller scale....causing so much to be lost when i put it back to 5x7 inches...i hade to redo the line art and some of the colouring

I really love the expression on her face and the way you did her hair. She looks a bit malnourished though.

At 4/26/09 06:01 PM, FullFistMaria wrote:

At 4/26/09 05:58 PM, SmilingIdiot wrote:

I really love the expression on her face and the way you did her hair. She looks a bit malnourished though.

thanks...what are you saying?...i dont feed my drawings?

At 4/26/09 06:17 PM, SmilingIdiot wrote: thanks...what are you saying?...i dont feed my drawings?

If you continue to not feed your drawings Im calling the art welfare people and they'll come and take them off of you.

At 4/26/09 04:48 PM, Lundsfryd wrote: A bit of progress since last time.. Any good advise?

She has the tiniest head ever :O

At 4/26/09 06:24 PM, FullFistMaria wrote:

At 4/26/09 06:17 PM, SmilingIdiot wrote: thanks...what are you saying?...i dont feed my drawings?

If you continue to not feed your drawings Im calling the art welfare people and they'll come and take them off of you.

i feed them everyday...though i make them throw it up afterwards but still i do feed them...oh yeah i have to redo the hair cause its quality in 5x7 is really bad...so i have to start that over again

At 4/26/09 06:40 PM, poxpower wrote:

At 4/26/09 04:48 PM, Lundsfryd wrote: A bit of progress since last time.. Any good advise?

She has the tiniest head ever :O

yeah.. So I don't pick my women for thier brains.. Fixed it a bit and added more stuff..

At 4/26/09 07:26 PM, Lundsfryd wrote:

At 4/26/09 06:40 PM, poxpower wrote:

At 4/26/09 04:48 PM, Lundsfryd wrote: A bit of progress since last time.. Any good advise?

She has the tiniest head ever :O

yeah.. So I don't pick my women for thier brains.. Fixed it a bit and added more stuff..

nope, still tiny head.
Needs to be like 20-30% bigger at least

At 4/26/09 07:53 PM, poxpower wrote:

nope, still tiny head.
Needs to be like 20-30% bigger at least

Serious? This is 25% bigger.. Now she looks like a bobblehead..

well i cant think of anything pico i can put in the bg....but dadN'me came to mind when i thought NG's for some reason...but yeah is there a day for this or should i just promote the lovable killer?

XD 2nd one was fine

At 4/26/09 08:13 PM, Lundsfryd wrote:

At 4/26/09 07:53 PM, poxpower wrote:

nope, still tiny head.
Needs to be like 20-30% bigger at least

Serious? This is 25% bigger.. Now she looks like a bobblehead..

lol
Well use your judgment I mean come on.

She looks like she wants to rape someone.

At 4/27/09 01:09 AM, SmilingIdiot wrote: well i cant think of anything pico i can put in the bg....but dadN'me came to mind when i thought NG's for some reason...but yeah is there a day for this or should i just promote the lovable killer?

Well dad and me is celebrated on pico day.

At 4/26/09 08:13 PM, Lundsfryd wrote:

At 4/26/09 07:53 PM, poxpower wrote:

nope, still tiny head.
Needs to be like 20-30% bigger at least

Serious? This is 25% bigger.. Now she looks like a bobblehead..

well dont forget the neck now,

she looks like midget

At 4/27/09 08:07 AM, MindChamber wrote:

At 4/26/09 08:13 PM, Lundsfryd wrote: Serious? This is 25% bigger.. Now she looks like a bobblehead..

well dont forget the neck now,

she looks like midget

Hehe.. If she is a midget then that is one tiny banjo.. :D
Anyways.. I have made the head a bit bigger and Im sort of satisfied.. Just wish I had a bit more time. I am a little overbooked these days..

At 4/27/09 09:15 AM, Lundsfryd wrote:

At 4/27/09 08:07 AM, MindChamber wrote:

At 4/26/09 08:13 PM, Lundsfryd wrote: Serious? This is 25% bigger.. Now she looks like a bobblehead..

well dont forget the neck now,

she looks like midget

Hehe.. If she is a midget then that is one tiny banjo.. :D

Just figured it was a ucalaly

Just wish I had a bit more time. I am a little overbooked these days..

if art is your major, then your never too booked to learn anatomy

At 4/27/09 10:28 AM, MindChamber wrote:

if art is your major, then your never too booked to learn anatomy

You are speaking the truth.. But no, art is not my major, I don't have any art classes at all really... Schools don't work like that in Denmark.. But I am allways trying to improve :)

At 4/27/09 10:28 AM, MindChamber wrote: if art is your major, then your never too booked to learn anatomy

true true, its probably the most important and most difficult to learn [i'm still learnin]

At 4/27/09 11:02 AM, jagondudo wrote:

true true, its probably the most important and most difficult to learn [i'm still learnin]

i dunno... art for most purposes, has aesthetic value only. if you know how to use colour and shade pleasingly, i think its more forgiving than really good anatomy. thats what i suck at. however this contest probably doesn't cater to that type of art style.....

At 4/27/09 12:57 PM, sucho wrote:

i dunno... art for most purposes, has aesthetic value only. if you know how to use colour and shade pleasingly, i think its more forgiving than really good anatomy. thats what i suck at. however this contest probably doesn't cater to that type of art style.....

If you are using the human form, then its important regardless of art style,

an extra long wrist, no neck, detracts from the image and basically kills the art no matter how fancy, stylized or detailed.

At 4/27/09 07:30 PM, MindChamber wrote:

At 4/27/09 12:57 PM, sucho wrote:

i dunno... art for most purposes, has aesthetic value only. if you know how to use colour and shade pleasingly, i think its more forgiving than really good anatomy. thats what i suck at. however this contest probably doesn't cater to that type of art style.....

If you are using the human form, then its important regardless of art style,

an extra long wrist, no neck, detracts from the image and basically kills the art no matter how fancy, stylized or detailed.

that only applies if what you're going for is realism. course that probably is what most people are going for in this contest.

:example by Jinyoung Shin, dadaly.net

At 4/27/09 07:48 PM, sucho wrote:

If you are using the human form, then its important regardless of art style,

an extra long wrist, no neck, detracts from the image and basically kills the art no matter how fancy, stylized or detailed.

that only applies if what you're going for is realism. course that probably is what most people are going for in this contest.

example by Jinyoung Shin, dadaly.net

wrong,,, again,.

that is stylized anatomy, the bone structure and rips are all designed to have volume and shape of a real skeleton but with a stylized look, theres nothing flat, odd, or broken about that bone structure.

just the simple fact that you show another artist's example, instead of your own, after admitting you have a weak grasp of anatomy kinda proves my case.

good try tho.

At 4/27/09 10:48 PM, MindChamber wrote: wrong,,, again,.

that is stylized anatomy, the bone structure and rips are all designed to have volume and shape of a real skeleton but with a stylized look, theres nothing flat, odd, or broken about that bone structure.

just the simple fact that you show another artist's example, instead of your own, after admitting you have a weak grasp of anatomy kinda proves my case.

good try tho.

i admit sucking at colour, composition, shading, and style.
probably due to these constraints, i don't have time to spend making examples to illustrate every post i make for these little point-counterpoints we have. i took your original comment at face value. just because you decide to elaborate now on the differences of "stylized anatomy" vs textbook doesn't mean i'm incorrect.

i don't mind showing off better artists either.