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Pretty much done with my main figure, now going to have a go at the background.
Posting wip to give myself some motivation to get this done before the weekend.

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Well Here's my latest attempt guy's
I added some details and thinned her down a bit
Same procedure, tell me what you think :)
thanks

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At 5/7/09 08:06 AM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote: Pretty much done with my main figure, now going to have a go at the background.
Posting wip to give myself some motivation to get this done before the weekend.

- More cleavage
- Face looks like a gnome

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Good work so far


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At 5/7/09 02:43 PM, vylent wrote: Well Here's my latest attempt guy's
I added some details and thinned her down a bit
Same procedure, tell me what you think :)
thanks

It's getting sharper all the time, very nice.

Maybe a tattoo on the stomach?

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At 5/7/09 02:43 PM, vylent wrote: Well Here's my latest attempt guy's

Looking a lot better. I would maybe try and make the perspective of her bust more in line with how her body is actually facing. It seems that they are pointing quite dramatically to the right of the image. Maybe they should face slightly more forwards? Just a thought.

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At 5/7/09 08:06 AM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote: Pretty much done with my main figure, now going to have a go at the background.
Posting wip to give myself some motivation to get this done before the weekend.

Nice pose!


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At 5/7/09 02:43 PM, vylent wrote: Well Here's my latest attempt guy's
I added some details and thinned her down a bit
Same procedure, tell me what you think :)
thanks

Alot better! I really like you colouring style - good stuff!

The only thing i could pick out at now would be that seeing as you slim her down a bit (which looks alot better) her arm looks a bit wide in comparison.


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At 5/7/09 08:06 AM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote: Pretty much done with my main figure, now going to have a go at the background.
Posting wip to give myself some motivation to get this done before the weekend.

Looks absolutely awesome, my only suggestion is that her left eye is much too wide for her right to look so calm. It's kind of confusing look at it, and makes her look somewhat cross eyed or something close. Oh and also the bulge on her right arm makes her look a little too buff / odd.

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WIP

I think I've actually done some half decent shading for once. Things I'm currently a bit unsure of:
1) Should I give the shirt I bit of texture? Or continue with a slight cartoony feel?
2) Should the shirt have much harsher shading?
3) Fixing those goddamn lines. (Thats what you can for drawing, finelining and taking a photo instead of either getting a scanner or a tablet)
4) Hair brushes for phototshop? Any recommendations?
5) Actually stick to an event idea.

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At 5/7/09 07:49 PM, SirNightOwl wrote: 1) Should I give the shirt I bit of texture? Or continue with a slight cartoony feel?

I like the overall cartoon feel so I don't think I would give it any special texture, although, you could add pinstripes (make them just a few shades lighter than the color of the shirt) if you wanted to make it look a little less blank.

2) Should the shirt have much harsher shading?

Personally, I think everything in the picture needs harsher shading. Personally, I prefer to have three tones of shading; light, medium, and dark. I think the addition of an extra darker shading tone allover might help it look a bit less flat, but, that's just my opinion.

Also, you didn't specifically ask this but I think there's a little too much shading on her face, particularly on the left side where her hand is, but again, that might just be me. But I do think you should avoid making her face too dark. Maybe add some skin tone highlights too? (not just on the face, but, all over).

3) Fixing those goddamn lines. (Thats what you can for drawing, finelining and taking a photo instead of either getting a scanner or a tablet)

Most of the lines look fine. Her hand looks a little weird, and, if she's running her fingers through her hair like that, I think that front part of her hair would be lifted up more than what we're seeing now, and we'd actually see her fingers interlaced with her hair (though, I guess not necessarily since it would just depend on how her hair fell potentially). I think her eyelashes need to be smaller and more delicate, and they should be on the bottom of the eyelid as well as the top.

4) Hair brushes for phototshop? Any recommendations?
5) Actually stick to an event idea.

Can't offer much help with those last two, but I'm sure you'll think of something clever. Anyway, it looks good overall.


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At 5/7/09 07:49 PM, SirNightOwl wrote: WIP

I think I've actually done some half decent shading for once.

definitely need to bring those ears down. They should sit somewhere between the top of the eye and the bottom of the nose. I'd suggest making the eyes and lips smaller and loose that eyelash style. Maybe replace it with something thicker. and redo the shirt wrinkles >< longer lines instead of small squiggly ones. Also some folds can be achieved through shading/highlights.
I see you coloring lines, so I'd also suggest the skin lines to be more flesh tone.
Good job so far.

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Right I followed the bits of advice so far,
Done some skin toning (which I wouldn't mind some more advice on :D )
Made the shading harsher (is it harsh enough?)
Changed the black lines to flesh coloured/related coloured lines (i.e flesh lines flesh colour, shirt lines, shirt colour)
Made the eyes and mouth smaller (looking good!)

I'm really looking for more advice concerning the face, (I have yet to change the ear)
By the way I haven't really started on the shirt or hair. Any advice will be greatly appreciated!

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Hey Guys
Im hoping this might be my last attempt at this before I post it in the finals thread
I thinned down the arm and added a tattoo
Im not to sure about the tattoo to be honest so i might just leave it out
but tell me what you think anyway
thanks again :)

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At 5/8/09 11:09 AM, vylent wrote: Hey Guys
Im hoping this might be my last attempt at this before I post it in the finals thread
I thinned down the arm and added a tattoo
Im not to sure about the tattoo to be honest so i might just leave it out
but tell me what you think anyway
thanks again :)

I might help If I actually added a pic

Sorry about the double post :(

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At 5/8/09 11:10 AM, vylent wrote:
At 5/8/09 11:09 AM, vylent wrote: Hey Guys
Im hoping this might be my last attempt at this before I post it in the finals thread
I thinned down the arm and added a tattoo
Im not to sure about the tattoo to be honest so i might just leave it out
but tell me what you think anyway
thanks again :)
I might help If I actually added a pic

Sorry about the double post :(

as CosmicDeath mentioned, you might want to look into a quick adjustment of that bust area to face towards the viewer POV a bot more.

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At 5/8/09 11:10 AM, vylent wrote: I might help If I actually added a pic

now if you take that picture and compair it to your first picture... you will see how much better it has become... like vortex said... the bust needs a bit of adjustment... also mabey tweak with her face?... i saw pox said something about that to, i thought it fitted in the theme... after all... not everyone is human >.>.... <.<.... Ciao

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At 5/8/09 11:10 AM, vylent wrote:
At 5/8/09 11:09 AM, vylent wrote: Hey Guys
Im hoping this might be my last attempt at this before I post it in the finals thread
I thinned down the arm and added a tattoo
Im not to sure about the tattoo to be honest so i might just leave it out
but tell me what you think anyway
thanks again :)
I might help If I actually added a pic

Sorry about the double post :(

I'm not sure about that 2ed tattoo, I think it would be better if you just dropped it :P


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I'm doing one in Flash and 5/7 inches are way smaller than 1500/2100 pixels so obviously I've done something wrong, where do i adjust the DPI in Flash?

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Well I think Ill go ahead and post this on the finished pieces thread
iv spent just about as much time as I was willing to
thanks again for all your help guys its made a vast improvement to my work
I really appreciate
it hope this does well :)
Thanks again

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At 5/8/09 02:53 PM, vylent wrote: Well I think Ill go ahead and post this on the finished pieces thread
iv spent just about as much time as I was willing to
thanks again for all your help guys its made a vast improvement to my work
I really appreciate
it hope this does well :)
Thanks again

Yay, stomach tattoo.


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At 5/8/09 09:58 AM, SirNightOwl wrote: Right I followed the bits of advice so far,
Done some skin toning (which I wouldn't mind some more advice on :D )
Made the shading harsher (is it harsh enough?)
Changed the black lines to flesh coloured/related coloured lines (i.e flesh lines flesh colour, shirt lines, shirt colour)
Made the eyes and mouth smaller (looking good!)

I'm really looking for more advice concerning the face, (I have yet to change the ear)
By the way I haven't really started on the shirt or hair. Any advice will be greatly appreciated!

I'd say you could definitely go darker on the shadows over the skin. If you aren't sure that tones are showing correctly on your monitor, here's a good page that will help you set your gamma:
http://www.photoscientia.co.uk/Gamma.htm

For the face, the shapes you have there aren't too bad. The thing I notice particularly right now are the eyes. For one thing, they've got a dead straight-ahead stare; try directing them somewhere, maybe, like looking more toward the center of the picture, where we as the viewer imagine we're standing. You could also try lowering her eyelids a little for a more sultry look (but not so low that she looks drugged!).

The other thing is the eyelashes; right now they look pretty "fake" because they're very thin and uniform. I find I usually have more success with eyelashes when I draw them as a solid shape, rather than individual hairs, particularly at this relatively small image size.


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At 5/8/09 02:53 PM, vylent wrote: Well I think Ill go ahead and post this on the finished pieces thread
iv spent just about as much time as I was willing to
thanks again for all your help guys its made a vast improvement to my work
I really appreciate
it hope this does well :)
Thanks again

Much improved! I like the detail you can see on her eyes in the full-size version.


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At 5/8/09 09:58 AM, SirNightOwl wrote: Right I followed the bits of advice so far,
Done some skin toning (which I wouldn't mind some more advice on :D )
Made the shading harsher (is it harsh enough?)
Changed the black lines to flesh coloured/related coloured lines (i.e flesh lines flesh colour, shirt lines, shirt colour)
Made the eyes and mouth smaller (looking good!)

I'm really looking for more advice concerning the face, (I have yet to change the ear)
By the way I haven't really started on the shirt or hair. Any advice will be greatly appreciated!

Oh, since you asked about the shirt, I forgot to mention that the thing that really stands out as a bit odd to me is that I can't figure out where her right arm disappears to! It looks like it goes under her shirt, but the shirt isn't large enough that it should just vanish in there.


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I decided to make it in Photoshop instead of Flash and after working for a few hours got this as a result, the image below is VERY bad quality just so it can be uploaded to NG please check out the one at the high res link.As the rest of the people here, I'm taking suggestions, i think the BG came out nice, but I'd like to hear thoughts on the body.

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At 5/9/09 06:42 AM, Nqkoi1 wrote: I decided to make it in Photoshop instead of Flash and after working for a few hours got this as a result, the image below is VERY bad quality just so it can be uploaded to NG please check out the one at the high res link.As the rest of the people here, I'm taking suggestions, i think the BG came out nice, but I'd like to hear thoughts on the body.

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Her face reminds me of Monique from Sinfest, but on to the criticisms...

From the angle of her body you wouldn't be able to see the outline of her other breast under the hand, the angle of her back shoulder looks odd...
I think her chin only looks odd because she doesn't have lips as of yet.
The background looks nice, but her hair bothers me for some reason that I can't explain.

Other than that, I'm liking the cartoony feel.

Oh, and the outline of the closer buttock would be further back due to the angle of her hips.

Kay that's really all.

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Fixed all of those things now check it here

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At 5/9/09 06:42 AM, Nqkoi1 wrote: I decided to make it in Photoshop instead of Flash and after working for a few hours got this as a result, the image below is VERY bad quality just so it can be uploaded to NG please check out the one at the high res link.As the rest of the people here, I'm taking suggestions, i think the BG came out nice, but I'd like to hear thoughts on the body.

Higher resolution

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I've seen the newer version of this image and it's looking better. ^_^ If you'd still like some suggestions, I'd have a look at:

1) At the moment it doesn't appear that she has an elbow, and the limb is very thin and limp.

2) There appears to be a gap between the texture/graphic in the bottom right hand corner. If it was intentional, then I apologise. lol

Maybe you could bring it up a little, like this? [img: suggested edit]

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The gap was intended yes, about the elbow...1) I didn't notice, I guess I liked the smooth elbow design and 2) it's already posted in the finished piece thread so nothing I can do other than hope for the best.

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At 5/9/09 02:04 PM, Nqkoi1 wrote: The gap was intended yes, about the elbow...1) I didn't notice, I guess I liked the smooth elbow design and 2) it's already posted in the finished piece thread so nothing I can do other than hope for the best.

lol. Okayyy.. >_>

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At 5/9/09 08:02 AM, Nqkoi1 wrote: Fixed all of those things now check it here

I don't think I can improve upon the excellent body suggestions others have already made, just wanted to say that I really like the colorful paint spatter effect on the Union Jack in the background. Did you hand-draw all that detail in Photoshop, or was there some sort of filter that helped do it?


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