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Well...its a good idea,but i prefer actually playing on a real console if you know what i mean. =/

Dexter3000

I love the amounts of idiots in this thread who have no idea what this is but they are trying to get their "point" across.

1: ONLIVE NEEDS ONLY INTERNET AND AN ACTUAL COMPUTER
2: THERE IS NO OTHER ONLIVE

*ahem*

At 3/27/09 12:42 PM, sirbobsalot2 wrote: I love the amounts of idiots in this thread who have no idea what this is but they are trying to get their "point" across.

1: ONLIVE NEEDS ONLY INTERNET AND AN ACTUAL COMPUTER
2: THERE IS NO OTHER ONLIVE

*ahem*

This would mean they made an incredible technology breaktrough, and that nobody else found the technology to stream games without any delay.

IF this is possible, even if this is possible, you can BUY games online, oh wait, you do not buy them, you only PAY for the right to borrow them as long as your account is active, and you need to pay money each month for your account, this looks like a DRM on steroids.

I'll stay with Steam, thanks.

At 3/27/09 01:59 PM, VenomKing666 wrote: This would mean they made an incredible technology breaktrough, and that nobody else found the technology to stream games without any delay.

Yeah, that's why it's so exciting! :D I love steam also but I don't think it should be compared to this at all, I will most likely use both, steam and onlive are totally seperate things. I like the idea of being able to play a game on my gaming PC, then go off to a friend's house or somewhere that may not have a great gaming PC and pick the game up where I left off, instantly!

We know that it works and it has been tested out by many at the GDC so please, don't anyone say it's fake or won't work because it does, at least in a controlled environment, the real test will come this summer when it beta tests across America.

No doubt Microsoft will come up with a very similar product soon that they "didn't steal".

At 3/27/09 02:07 PM, Oggy-cheese wrote: text

It still remains a DRM on crack, as you do not really own the games you pay for.

The only feature I like is the one where you can watch your friends play and shit, and people can watch you play, so you can pretend you are hot shit on the internet.

At 3/27/09 11:56 AM, Dexter3000 wrote: Dexter3000

Yes we can see who you are you stupid cunt.

Anyways, I am not too big on this OnLive service for these reasons:

Not actually owning a game - You pay for a subscription, and you don't keep a copy of the game. This DRM system says that when OnLive goes down for good, you lose everything you purchase.
Compression - As someone mentioned before, this uses a compression algorithm to help send data across the internet. I don't use high end hardware to see/listen to compression artifacts. Likewise, playing Crysis on Very High with compressed graphics makes this almost entirely pointless.

At 3/27/09 02:37 PM, SniperWolf1564 wrote:

At 3/27/09 11:56 AM, Dexter3000 wrote: Dexter3000

Yes we can see who you are you stupid cunt.

I am really starting to like you SniperWolf.

(even if you are a weeaboo hohoho)

Oggy Cheese stop getting so wet over it.

Okay.
This looks like a step forward for PC gaming, but I don't see how this will completely obsoletize console gaming. It looks like it can gain a fair bit of Third party support, but first parties will remain on their exclusives. Plus with a massive internet community, there are always the problem of hackers, this is the primary reason I'm not with this.
It seems people always forget hackers, that and piracy, which would be all the more trouble for something that is ran by PC, there can spawn software meant to make any game playable through "OnLive".
Then the viruses, which need no introduction.

This may not completely revolutionise gaming, but will just be joining the competition, and no doubt this is a "score 1" for PC gaming.
Microsoft and Sony can update their firmware to offer live streaming, which is the only thing I saw that was cool about OnLive. Nintendo has a makeshift replay function in certain games, not to mention the "targeted demographic" will have no need for OnLive, which is another reason OnLive will not revolutionise gaming; it is clearly designed to appeal to those who like to refer to themselves as "hardcore gamers", and those who fit the nonspecific criteria of one. Casual and Solo gamers will have no need for OnLive.
Bear in mind that 65% of all gamers are casual.

Rough Estimate, may be wrong.

tl:dr version: Start at "Okay" and keep reading until "wrong", lazy motherfucker.

... yupp, just like Virtual Boy was the death of non-3D gaming.

I just want to be able to play those resource heavy PC only games.

I am going to have a ruddy good laugh when this turns out to be an April fools joke or it dies.

Then there's that whole investment scam theory.

At 3/27/09 02:37 PM, SniperWolf1564 wrote:

At 3/27/09 11:56 AM, Dexter3000 wrote: Dexter3000

Yes we can see who you are you stupid cunt.

Hey.that was unneccasary!i just write that as a sig.

but anways,i do happen to agree with what you said about compression.fitting all those graphics in aswell as game's coding itself would take up alot of memory.

At 3/27/09 10:25 AM, Jezuz wrote:

So you act like a mindless adolescent male to prove you aren't a mindless adolescent male. Interesting.

"Have been developing in stealth mode"

The chances of being able to operate a technology like this is no doubt going to be exposed. This is a huge joke, and I laugh at how you're believing it.

I only act like a sex-obsessed adolescent because it's obviously the only language you understand. I take this as fact because it was the only way for you to notice the just founded thing dumbass.

At 3/27/09 04:47 PM, Dexter3000 wrote:

At 3/27/09 02:37 PM, SniperWolf1564 wrote:

At 3/27/09 11:56 AM, Dexter3000 wrote: Dexter3000

Yes we can see who you are you stupid cunt.

Hey.that was unneccasary!i just write that as a sig.

No, you are an idiot. You can see your name right above your level icon.

If you like posting that so much, put it in you actual sig.

PC gaming is dead.

Dexter3000

At 3/27/09 05:59 PM, SlipperyMooseCakes wrote: PC gaming is dead.

Dexter3000

I SEE WHAT YOU DID THAR!!!

Onlive will fail. For one the servers will be terrible. You don't even really own the game. This is too big a step for them to take. Steam somewhat pushes it but I prefer the fuzzy feeling I get when I buy a game. Not this subscription bullshit.

This was confirmed on G4-Xplay.

At 3/27/09 05:25 PM, SniperWolf1564 wrote: No, you are an idiot. You can see your name right above your level icon.

If you like posting that so much, put it in you actual sig.

I second this idea, signing your posts makes you look like a fucking elitist prick.

Let's all close our eyes and imagine this 'OnLive' actually works.

First of all, it doesn't matter what anybody does, so long as you're connecting to the service from your client over the internet, you will experience latency. It won't be at all like network latency experienced in multiplayer games, as it will be the user interface itself which lags.

In a typical multiplayer game, your client will 'predict' what the server would allow you to do to a degree, which is why movement usually appears instantly responsive, unhindered by network latency. In reality, your character is actually a fraction of a second behind where your client shows you. With a service such as OnLive, this prediction would not happen, and actions will always be that fraction of a second behind your keystrokes. Controls will feel sluggish, and there's nothing you can do about it.

Now, consider this: OnLive will have to connect to external multiplayer servers (assuming OnLive doesn't provide dedicated servers for all the games they offer, in which case lol gg) on top of your connection to the game instance. This means you'll experience network latency twofold---lag between your computer and the OnLive game instance, and lag between the OnLive game instance and the multiplayer server you're playing on. It'll feel like playing five feet away from your keyboard, striking keys with a length of hose.

OnLive can possibly "bring down" PC Gaming because it removes the possibility of mods.

Because the games are in the servers, you won't be able to access and modify that content and create mods, an aspect of PC Gaming that far outshines console gaming.

That's just a pretty good guess, because I don't see a good way of modding games that are owned by OnLive on their hardware and their servers.

I'm crossing my fingers that this turns out at badass as it sounds. They were talking about it on X-Play the other day while they were covering GDC '09 and it really looks and sounds amazing. One of the main issues they were talking about was latency. How are they gonna make it so you don't run into major lag all the time?

I hope this works out, if it does it's gonna be awesome. I signed up to be a BETA tester so hopefully I can try it out this summer.

Good things about Onlinv:

Every game on the highest settings on any computer
Only needs an average internet connection (in the UK at least, the government is trying to get every household to have a 2mb/s connection as a minimum).
No more production of computer parts/CDs etc

(possible) Bad Things about onlive:

You pay per month to play, you don't own the games
No more mods?
Possible lag/bandwidith issues.

So, on the plus side its better for the enviroment, provides the highest settings for everyone and can be used by most people. But on the negative side it might have lag and lowers personal freedoms.

Social + enviromental V Freedom + lag

heh, this is were piracy comes in. There are ways you can get free games streamed to your tv/pc. I'll give it a week tops before a crack comes out for free games.

So uh.. Any NG'ers in the beta test?

No, I don't think it is. I will always prefer a disc since the price for that game will eventually decline. Whereas on an online marketplace, prices stay high for much longer. Take a look at Games on Demand on the 360. All the games that are on there can be found on disc for up to 50% cheaper.

At 3/24/09 09:21 PM, Tominater12 wrote:

At 3/24/09 09:18 PM, 51430 wrote:

At 3/24/09 09:14 PM, Chiklay4 wrote: don't we have something like this? called steam

That's exactly what I was thinking.

Steam is not for mac or tv.

Well, there is boot camp....

But anyways, this will turn out just like Phantom.

It wont be the end of console gaming I can absolutely be sure on that. Some people play JUST for achievements you know.

Onlive works through the power of Tachyons. Or magic.

That's the only way it could actually work.

Hey, remember the Phantom? Remember how people put money into it, but it never actually got created? Yeah.