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I can imagine how fucking great the latency issues are going to be.

Oh boy, Company of Heroes with only a 3 second delay between when I click and when it registers?

At 3/24/09 01:22 PM, NeoBlueFalcon wrote: The lack of first party titles is turning me away from this idea. Until I see it with my own eyes (and when they can put better games up on the service than recycled EA games), I'm going to have to say that this is a bad idea.

I love consoles, I don't want it to end. I think PC gaming is overrated, and I definately won't play anything through this program.

At 3/24/09 09:47 PM, Jezuz wrote:

At 3/24/09 09:42 PM, BlueFlameSkulls wrote: It's an April Fools joke...

Would be the most elaborate April Fools joke ever. To get IGN, Kotaku, GameTrailers and who knows who else to go in on it? Would be purely amazing.

I almost hope this is the case now.

Oh dear God, so do I.

But it seems like the most smartest idea, it's just too goddamn clever...

At 3/25/09 11:04 PM, Crink wrote: Oh dear God, so do I.

But it seems like the most smartest idea, it's just too goddamn clever...

Not clever. Useless.

Onlive is solving a problem that never existed. If this becomes successful for a few years in it's peak they will be the only "console". They can make a monopoly out of it. Then another one of these streaming consoles comes out. THEN WE BACK HAVING CONSOLE WARS.

But still lol subscription fee to use the service. Games have and will always be something that appeals to kids. They sure as hell aren't going to buy the subscription, may go the way of Xbox Live but Xbox Live is not mandatory. You can still enjoy playing games after purchasing the console and games afterwards.

If it isn't an April Fools joke it WILL die. It will die before even coming out. Not many people have internet connections believe it or not. Some people get furious when they find their singleplayer game require online activation. If I keep saying it will die it'll happen. Now excuse me while I put my fingers in my ears and sing loud enough.

I love consoles too.

Buying that sleek new machine that's loaded with so many new features. Plugging that beast into your T.V for the first time. Staying loyal to your brand, enjoying your exclusives.

If OnLive works, it will revolutionize gaming so much. Also it would bring unity to the gaming world. Unless other OnLive-esque services pop up.

I have a feeling that OnLive might charge extra for "Premium Servers" that have more powerful hardware capabilities.

It's a plausible business model, especially in a service that could possibly be a huge liability for hardware producers.

Guys! Will you please READ the stuff before you comment about all the latency issues it's going to have. This is not a 'new' technology. It has been in development for almost a decade and it's only just been announced. I doubt it's going to totally change the way games are played, but it's a great alternative to those that want to play games instantly and cheaply without having to upgrade their PCs. The guys working on this were the original developers of lots of things like quicktime, when they said they hardly knew what streaming was. They have completely reinvented video compression and it's going to be instant. There will be NO LAG BETWEEN INPUT AND A RESPONSE.

Here's what IGN think of it when they got their hands on it at GDC, they said it works fine but they just need to see if it works when it goes global. The system WORKS, the only worry now is if it works when it's released worldwide.

http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/965/965542 p1.html

You guys are right to be sceptical because it sounds like it's impossible, but please don't poo fling and say things without any evidence. Thanks.

I was skeptical at first but after seeing the presentation I must say it looks extremely promising. I'm sure the money hungry console companies don't like this one. But I'm sure the consumer does like this, every game in one place without having to upgrade your machine, download / install games. Plus you can spectecate your friends, play 2p non-online games with your friends, and play games from all consoles.

Now this is what I want, a single place to play all games without any trouble, and all these extra features are a great bonus.

At 3/24/09 10:01 PM, Jezuz wrote: Woop, 15 year old expert on the industry coming through. Don't believe anything journalists tell you about the service, we have our very own 15 year old genius over here to give us our opinions.

you're 17. shut it.

At 3/26/09 05:24 PM, SpammyMcGee wrote: you're 17. shut it.

There is a big fucking gap between 15 and 17.

At 3/25/09 03:39 PM, Oggy-cheese wrote: They have been working for 7 years developing totally new compression technology to make this work properly, lag won't happen.

Compression. FUCK. THAT.

I don't use high end hardware to stare at compression artifacts all day, and I sure as hell don't use high end hardware to listen to compression artifacts either.

Unless they are getting games that consoles are not then why bother?

At 3/26/09 07:42 PM, VenomKing666 wrote:

At 3/26/09 05:24 PM, SpammyMcGee wrote: you're 17. shut it.

There is a big fucking gap between 15 and 17.

yea, two years. amazing. huge gap.

At 3/26/09 10:12 PM, SpammyMcGee wrote:

At 3/26/09 07:42 PM, VenomKing666 wrote:

At 3/26/09 05:24 PM, SpammyMcGee wrote: you're 17. shut it.

There is a big fucking gap between 15 and 17.

yea, two years. amazing. huge gap.

Nothing is changing the fact that you are a stupid kid who thinks that he is tough shit around here.

At 3/26/09 10:58 PM, SniperWolf1564 wrote: Nothing is changing the fact that you are a stupid kid who thinks that he is tough shit around here.

Hoho, Sniper Wolf to the rescue. Also Spammy, it's only 2 years but in this particular part one (can) gain alot of maturity, something you do not seem to have acquired yet.

At 3/25/09 09:27 PM, Jezuz wrote:

At 3/25/09 06:53 PM, akmeteor wrote:

Oh yes, because a business that was JUST FOUNDED has BILLIONS of dollars to research this or MILLIONS to install this miracle technology. Journalists have lost my respect since....about 1999. So stop playing the age game, and fuck off. I obviously know more than you do.

Sure you do kid. You're clearly a very intelligent child, considering your primary argument here is using numbers that haven't been released and telling me to 'fuck off'. You're absolutely brilliant. Go back to your sheltered little existence and leave the know it all roles to people that have had their balls drop, little boy. :)

First of all you aren't even paying attention to the core of my argument.
THEY WERE JUST FOUNDED!!!! Second I'm treating you like I treat everyone who thinks I'm a mindless, sex-obseesed adolescent male. You're too stupid to even have a clue what the hell I'm talking about.

At 3/24/09 09:42 PM, BlueFlameSkulls wrote: It's an April Fools joke...

This is what I've thought from the start, then I thought it was odd that so many people were getting behind it and discussing it. I just don't see a system as they've displayed it working, technical issues such as major delay, lag and servers crashes aside, commercially it just wouldn't survive on the market.

Not to mention the whole manner in which it's being handled is just suspcious. Self-described 'stealth mode' for seven years? Yuhuh, ok....

At 3/26/09 04:53 PM, Yiffy wrote: I was skeptical at first but after seeing the presentation I must say it looks extremely promising. I'm sure the money hungry console companies don't like this one. But I'm sure the consumer does like this, every game in one place without having to upgrade your machine, download / install games. Plus you can spectecate your friends, play 2p non-online games with your friends, and play games from all consoles.

Now this is what I want, a single place to play all games without any trouble, and all these extra features are a great bonus.

I completely agree.
And PLEASE stop the poo flinging everyone!

:THEY WERE JUST FOUNDED!!!!

No they weren't, this has been in development for almost a decade. These guys have done lots of work before, they invented quicktime and other web stuff and they're just joining together for a new project, it was just announced, but they weren't just founded. Read the facts before posting please.

Well...its a good idea,but i prefer actually playing on a real console if you know what i mean. =/

Dexter3000

I love the amounts of idiots in this thread who have no idea what this is but they are trying to get their "point" across.

1: ONLIVE NEEDS ONLY INTERNET AND AN ACTUAL COMPUTER
2: THERE IS NO OTHER ONLIVE

*ahem*

At 3/27/09 12:42 PM, sirbobsalot2 wrote: I love the amounts of idiots in this thread who have no idea what this is but they are trying to get their "point" across.

1: ONLIVE NEEDS ONLY INTERNET AND AN ACTUAL COMPUTER
2: THERE IS NO OTHER ONLIVE

*ahem*

This would mean they made an incredible technology breaktrough, and that nobody else found the technology to stream games without any delay.

IF this is possible, even if this is possible, you can BUY games online, oh wait, you do not buy them, you only PAY for the right to borrow them as long as your account is active, and you need to pay money each month for your account, this looks like a DRM on steroids.

I'll stay with Steam, thanks.

At 3/27/09 01:59 PM, VenomKing666 wrote: This would mean they made an incredible technology breaktrough, and that nobody else found the technology to stream games without any delay.

Yeah, that's why it's so exciting! :D I love steam also but I don't think it should be compared to this at all, I will most likely use both, steam and onlive are totally seperate things. I like the idea of being able to play a game on my gaming PC, then go off to a friend's house or somewhere that may not have a great gaming PC and pick the game up where I left off, instantly!

We know that it works and it has been tested out by many at the GDC so please, don't anyone say it's fake or won't work because it does, at least in a controlled environment, the real test will come this summer when it beta tests across America.

No doubt Microsoft will come up with a very similar product soon that they "didn't steal".

At 3/27/09 02:07 PM, Oggy-cheese wrote: text

It still remains a DRM on crack, as you do not really own the games you pay for.

The only feature I like is the one where you can watch your friends play and shit, and people can watch you play, so you can pretend you are hot shit on the internet.

At 3/27/09 11:56 AM, Dexter3000 wrote: Dexter3000

Yes we can see who you are you stupid cunt.

Anyways, I am not too big on this OnLive service for these reasons:

Not actually owning a game - You pay for a subscription, and you don't keep a copy of the game. This DRM system says that when OnLive goes down for good, you lose everything you purchase.
Compression - As someone mentioned before, this uses a compression algorithm to help send data across the internet. I don't use high end hardware to see/listen to compression artifacts. Likewise, playing Crysis on Very High with compressed graphics makes this almost entirely pointless.

At 3/27/09 02:37 PM, SniperWolf1564 wrote:

At 3/27/09 11:56 AM, Dexter3000 wrote: Dexter3000

Yes we can see who you are you stupid cunt.

I am really starting to like you SniperWolf.

(even if you are a weeaboo hohoho)

Oggy Cheese stop getting so wet over it.

Okay.
This looks like a step forward for PC gaming, but I don't see how this will completely obsoletize console gaming. It looks like it can gain a fair bit of Third party support, but first parties will remain on their exclusives. Plus with a massive internet community, there are always the problem of hackers, this is the primary reason I'm not with this.
It seems people always forget hackers, that and piracy, which would be all the more trouble for something that is ran by PC, there can spawn software meant to make any game playable through "OnLive".
Then the viruses, which need no introduction.

This may not completely revolutionise gaming, but will just be joining the competition, and no doubt this is a "score 1" for PC gaming.
Microsoft and Sony can update their firmware to offer live streaming, which is the only thing I saw that was cool about OnLive. Nintendo has a makeshift replay function in certain games, not to mention the "targeted demographic" will have no need for OnLive, which is another reason OnLive will not revolutionise gaming; it is clearly designed to appeal to those who like to refer to themselves as "hardcore gamers", and those who fit the nonspecific criteria of one. Casual and Solo gamers will have no need for OnLive.
Bear in mind that 65% of all gamers are casual.

Rough Estimate, may be wrong.

tl:dr version: Start at "Okay" and keep reading until "wrong", lazy motherfucker.

... yupp, just like Virtual Boy was the death of non-3D gaming.

I just want to be able to play those resource heavy PC only games.

I am going to have a ruddy good laugh when this turns out to be an April fools joke or it dies.

Then there's that whole investment scam theory.