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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:30:05

At 3/17/09 05:27 PM, NeonFlame126 wrote: But meh, he's in jail for a B.S. thing he never planned to do, just because it happened before. Nothing we can do to change it.

You do realise sirtom was serious about this stuff? He had planned it to do it, not planned it for kicks. You're saying, even if I plan to go and blow up a bus station, as long as I never actually manage it, I'm totally innocent?

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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:30:11

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfo lk/7949532.stm

No mention of Newgrounds. :(

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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:32:15

NGers (excluding Sirtom) are awesome.

Read Rig's little TL;dr blog (thanks for that), just want to ask - Does anyone know if he did actually take petrol into school with him? And has anyone spoken to him privately on msn/aim prior to this and got a clue that he wanted to do something like this? Sorry if these questions have already been asked =3


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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:32:41

At 3/17/09 05:30 PM, The-Darkphoenix wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfo lk/7949532.stm

No mention of Newgrounds. :(

Way to thank NG for all the help.


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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:32:35

At 3/17/09 05:30 PM, The-Darkphoenix wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfo lk/7949532.stm

No mention of Newgrounds. :(

How do you find these minor storys?


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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:32:59

At 3/17/09 05:11 PM, Aryk wrote: He could have done it if he didn't tell us. Well, it's good he told us!

Yeah, maybe he wanted to be caught, ya know, for the lu-...attention

And I'd rather not imagine what coulda been, let's just all be thankful that Rig, Wade, and deckheadtottie took charge.

On this day, Wade is the victor, not Thomas!

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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:33:20

Imagine if this had been 4chan.

The school would not be here now.

God bless NG.
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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:33:32

At 3/17/09 05:27 PM, NeonFlame126 wrote: But meh, he's in jail for a B.S. thing he never planned to do, just because it happened before. Nothing we can do to change it.

How naive do you want to be? Regardless of intent, you don't say shit like that. You go into an airport and threaten to blow them up, and see how little difference you saying "jokes" at the end will make.

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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:34:13

At 3/17/09 05:27 PM, NeonFlame126 wrote: You said as a threat, I'm stating this isn't a threat.

but you're wrong. Whether or not it was a threat isn't a matter of opinion.

Are TOTALLY not the same thing.

I see you try to dismantle my argument below... let's see.

sirtom posted with intent, naming his target, his planned time of action as well as a picture to back up his claims. That's LEAGUES away from someone saying "grrrrrg I'ma kill someone today."
Intent - I wanna kill people
Emo intent - I wanna kill someone

Okay, this isn't an argument. It's not even relevant to the "debate."

ToA - School (Nearest chance)
Emo ToA - Whenever I can (Nearest chance)

You make some insane assumptions here. Did you know there's a CLINICAL difference between vaugely stating a target and identifying an immediate one? No, I assume you did not.

Picture of a greenish box holding no evidence
Picture of them being extremely emo, still no evidence

Wow. You just... clearly have no idea what we're even talking about here do you?

Sorry, should I cluster every instance together and decide from that? I'm pretty sure that's how this business started. The killing one, I mean. How is this threat any less real or public than the hollow "everyday " ones?

I thought I made that clear:

Plausible intent, stated target and time.

An open website for flash gamers and makers is less public than a website for emo kids? That's like saying Hot Topic is less public than Macys.

When did I compare the publicity of the two?

If someone reposted this on Nickelodeon.com (or the like) I'm sure you wouldn't get arrested.

Again, what you're "sure" of is not relevant.

Of COURSE it did. If there were a million Rigs and DHTs, this would've turned out much differently than a million people who took it as I did.

... You've never really been exposed to proper argument structure have you? Ugh.


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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:35:08

At 3/17/09 05:32 PM, Gagsy wrote: NGers (excluding Sirtom) are awesome.

Read Rig's little TL;dr blog (thanks for that), just want to ask - Does anyone know if he did actually take petrol into school with him? And has anyone spoken to him privately on msn/aim prior to this and got a clue that he wanted to do something like this? Sorry if these questions have already been asked =3

Yes, he did have petrol
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfo lk/7949532.stm

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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:35:22

Holy shit!!!

You're gonna be in sooo much trouble1

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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:35:26

How many school threats go without deaths?


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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:36:54

I'm kind of glad that they didn't mention Newgrounds actually. The reputation of this site barely survived Jeff Weise. I think that part of the reason the BBC didn't mention this site is because of posts earlier on this thread asking not to. I think the police who leaked this story to the press probably asked the BBC to use their discretion and not mention the name of this website.


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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:37:15

Does anyone know what the motive was yet?
Seems odd this guy is a regular on newgrounds and even attended the London meetup.
What did he think would happen by posting about this?


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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:37:17

BBC needs to give credit when credit is due. They need to look at how Wade, the mods, and a few members of the community busted their asses out of their spare time to make sure nothing happened.

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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:37:38

At 3/17/09 05:32 PM, Civilnotice wrote:
At 3/17/09 05:30 PM, The-Darkphoenix wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfo lk/7949532.stm

No mention of Newgrounds. :(
Way to thank NG for all the help.

The important thing is that we know who they are :P

At 3/17/09 05:32 PM, Xurch wrote:
At 3/17/09 05:30 PM, The-Darkphoenix wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfo lk/7949532.stm

No mention of Newgrounds. :(
How do you find these minor storys?

The guy who's now under investigation (topic starter SirTom) had the courtesy of providing us with a link.


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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:38:31

At 3/17/09 05:30 PM, The-Darkphoenix wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfo lk/7949532.stm

No mention of Newgrounds. :(

That should shut up all the 'prove it!' retards.

I was a minor part of something that could have killed someone! Hooray!

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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:39:03

At 3/17/09 05:30 PM, evil-gn0me wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfo lk/7949532.stm
its all there in its glory

I've read every post in this thread, quite a good read dare I say. Couldn't be arsed to bother posting here until I saw that news report. Damn, this is quite something. It probably is just a rather stupid cry for attention, but I suppose the risk was too high to just ignore him. So good on you guys. Found a knife as well :/, I wonder where they found that and where Tom was at the moment. If they go through my room at any one point they would also find matches and a few knives, that doesn't mean those items were going to be used in a school massacre. Cheap journalism.


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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:39:22

At 3/17/09 05:34 PM, Zerok wrote: Some things

Nice argument. I'd like to see neonflame try to (logically) dismantle it. It'll be a laugh.

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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:42:42

At 3/17/09 05:40 PM, JackPhantasm wrote:
At 3/17/09 05:36 PM, marcusp3 wrote:
Fucking hell, can't you skim it at least? TL;DR has been posted.
I'm sorry I just don't care that much, if you're not smart enough to summarize it in a sentence equal in length to the one you already posted I really have nothing else to say.

Its all summed up on Rig's blog.


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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:43:51

At 3/17/09 05:30 PM, The-Darkphoenix wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfo lk/7949532.stm

No mention of Newgrounds. :(

Wow, just wow.

I know it's been said dozens of times already in this thread, but well done to deskheadtottie and Rig, you prevented what could have been a serious situation. I mean, he must have been deadly serious if he was in possession of petrol when arrested; it's hardly the sort of thing you just happen to have on your person.

Again, well done lads, take a bow.

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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:44:12

i guess the NG Viking Army needs a new leader.


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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:44:45

At 3/17/09 05:40 PM, JackPhantasm wrote:
At 3/17/09 05:36 PM, marcusp3 wrote:
Fucking hell, can't you skim it at least? TL;DR has been posted.
I'm sorry I just don't care that much, if you're not smart enough to summarize it in a sentence equal in length to the one you already posted I really have nothing else to say.

A TL;DR has been posted, if you can't be asked to go find it then that's your problem. Now either shut up and go away, or read the damned TL;DR and make posts that are relevant.

This goes for anyone else as well. I'm going to start banning people for psoting ' wut is happeneing here lulz!' from this point on. It's been summed up at least 4 times to my recollection.

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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:46:24

Could we stop refering to him as Tom? It makes it sound like the creator of Newgrounds did it.


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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:49:07

Sirtom93 , NG user, posted threats to burn down his school. The NG forum users (2 user in particular)
alerted the authorities and the youth was arrested.

That is the TL;DR version for the people on NG who seriously cant be bothered to read like a sensible human being.

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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:50:27

"The constabulary was alerted by a member of the public after a message was posted on a website inferring the criminal damage to Attleborough School."
Members of the public!?!?
Come on! We are a community of highly trained users who needs to spot this shit out! We get called members of the Public? PAH!

Also I'm glad they didn't mention newgrounds. That would have given us some bad rep due to the fact people may think we caused him to do it!

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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:50:46

'Norfolk Police said officers seized a knife, matches and a canister of what is believed to be a flammable liquid. '

Hmm, sounds pretty serious to me. All those who advised doing nothing are looking very silly right now.


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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:51:07

I'm sirtom93, twisted sirtom93.

This is it.


Stop looking

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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:51:46

At 3/17/09 05:30 PM, The-Darkphoenix wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfo lk/7949532.stm

No mention of Newgrounds. :(

It's also now on Ceefax and in the local paper's website EDP24, which say the same thing as the Beeb.

Example: Evening News 24: Norfolk Edition

According to the Press Association, the story was announced 46 minutes ago.


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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:52:20

i wonder if this will reach Television news.

will anything like Fox or CNN report on it?


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