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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 16:48:43

sorry, i just have school this morinin', so i don't really have the time.

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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 16:48:54

I'm really sorry guys, I'll read 17 pages of Negrounds lolwalrus material because leaders of teh intranet made me so.

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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 16:49:38

At 3/17/09 07:29 AM, Zerok wrote: And a two:

That shirt is so hilariously ironic I almost laughed.


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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 16:50:36

At 3/17/09 04:42 PM, Zerok wrote:
At 3/17/09 04:39 PM, Rig wrote: Bonus points.
Extra credit for every scrubbed future job opportunity!

There's quite a few Life Achievement jokes to be had out of this, I'll give you that.

I'd make one, but I fail at MSpaint too much to do it justice.... :/
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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 16:53:59

Good thing the police got to this in time.

All the poor kids who did nothing to sirtom, burning in that school... ugh... the thoughts...


well, like, you couldn't, like, find it because, like, you're dumb, god
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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 16:54:09

I've been reading along this topic since it was first made.

Jesus christ. This has been pretty intense.


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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 16:55:35

At 3/17/09 04:49 PM, TheSilverGuitar wrote: That shirt is so hilariously ironic I almost laughed.

Communist Attempts To Blow Up School; Is Spurred On By Internet Forum; Video Game To Blame

And the tabloids thought it would be a dull day, what with everyone getting drunk.

Seriously though, this isn't media fodder, in my opinion. It's pretty much been discussed above. How I turned your comment on the shirt into something on the media, well, that's me I guess. You reminded me of it though ;)

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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 16:56:08

Damn, how horrible. Thank God nothing came of it.


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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 16:57:31

At 3/17/09 04:56 PM, 25272D wrote: sig for the lulz

Better than the other one. It doesn't glorify Sirtom93.


My PSN ID is xscoot. Crazy, huh?

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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 16:58:20

At 3/17/09 04:57 PM, xscoot wrote:
At 3/17/09 04:56 PM, 25272D wrote: sig for the lulz
Better than the other one. It doesn't glorify Sirtom93.

No, it just makes it sound like you are sirtom's widow.


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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 16:58:45

At 3/17/09 04:56 PM, 25272D wrote: sig for the lulz

OMG CAN I HAS? Seriously?


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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 16:59:07

At 3/17/09 04:48 PM, Zerok wrote: Are you seriously of the opinion that you should gamble with potential victim's lives like that? Maybe you don't have anyone close to you such that you'd be devastated if anything injurious ever happened to them... but if something happened to one of my loved ones, and I found that the perpetrator had let a large group of people know what he was planning on doing and no one took it seriously... Jesus.

Knowing how few people in my school - as an example - have ever heard of any NG that isn't Nation Geographic, I doubt to the umpteenth power that this was made as a threat to anyone. The closest Norfolk to half the users here is in Virginia. I would be pissed if this happened, but how many emo kids do you think say "I'm going to kill someone today"? I would guess somewhere in the tens of millions. Should we go around every depressed teenager just because (s)he thought about it? Hey, cops, some of these kids think about doing what he posted, let's go arrest all of them for conspiring for murder. Posting something like this on that website would get a "Ignore the attention whore" type response.

If you posted something like that on a kid-friendly website you would get your topic deleted and nothing would be thought or done of it.

Yet, if you post it on a website where some of the people are under ten, some of the people are emo, and some of them are responsible adults, you get arrested. Double standards FTL.


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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 16:59:12

At 3/17/09 04:56 PM, 25272D wrote: sig for the lulz

Even if it is too soon after the fact, I'll admit I laughed.

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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 16:59:46

At 3/17/09 04:48 PM, Tekken9292 wrote: I'm really sorry guys, I'll read 17 pages of Negrounds lolwalrus material because leaders of teh intranet made me so.

If you read the first page, it would be pretty damn obvious exactly what has happened.

Sirtom creates this thread
Rig and myself phone the police
Users post an amazing amount of information on Sirtom
Rig keeps in contact with police, I keep in contact with Sirtom's school and Wade
The school phones me and says the matter has been dealt with and thanks NG
The police contact Rig and say Sirtom is in custody.

TL;DR Sirtom is now in police custody because he threatened to burn down his school. Rig and I (and my top secret informer) are Internet Superheroes.


#coys

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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:02:29

At 3/17/09 04:59 PM, deckheadtottie wrote:
At 3/17/09 04:48 PM, Tekken9292 wrote:
TL;DR Sirtom is now in police custody because he threatened to burn down his school. Rig and I (and my top secret informer) are Internet Superheroes.

You and Rig are victors of the day.


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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:03:04

At 3/17/09 04:59 PM, deckheadtottie wrote: TL;DR Sirtom is now in police custody because he threatened to burn down his school. Rig and I (and my top secret informer) are Internet Superheroes.

I'm referring to you all as the "SuperFriends" from now own. Until I find a way to make that name homosexual, of course.


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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:03:06

At 3/17/09 04:59 PM, deckheadtottie wrote: TL;DR Sirtom is now in police custody because he threatened to burn down his school. Rig and I (and my top secret informer) are Internet Superheroes.

Can I have sex with you?

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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:03:35

TL;DR for those of you who are too lazy to read the numerous other TL;DRs.

By the way, for our less internet-educated viewers: TL;DR = Too long; didn't read.


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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:04:29

At 3/17/09 05:01 PM, 25272D wrote: Fixed because it was too big and added mocking text so he's reminded when he comes back about how shit he was.

OH TEH NOES, it's like 1.6 KB over the file limit!


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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:05:26

At 3/17/09 05:03 PM, Rig wrote: TL;DR for those of you who are too lazy to read the numerous other TL;DRs.

By the way, for our less internet-educated viewers: TL;DR = Too long; didn't read.

Change it to UK times so we can see what happened in UK time. or add it next to it. It started at 10:40AM GMT, with the threat to be carried out @ 11:30AM

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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:06:29

At 3/17/09 04:59 PM, NeonFlame126 wrote: Knowing how few people in my school - as an example - have ever heard of any NG that isn't Nation Geographic, I doubt to the umpteenth power that this was made as a threat to anyone. The closest Norfolk to half the users here is in Virginia.

Your analysis of the situation and what you thought of it is irrelevant, in terms of the level of threat presented.

I would be pissed if this happened, but how many emo kids do you think say "I'm going to kill someone today"? I would guess somewhere in the tens of millions. Should we go around every depressed teenager just because (s)he thought about it? Hey, cops, some of these kids think about doing what he posted, let's go arrest all of them for conspiring for murder. Posting something like this on that website would get a "Ignore the attention whore" type response.

That's not the same thing AT ALL.

sirtom posted with intent, naming his target, his planned time of action as well as a picture to back up his claims. That's LEAGUES away from someone saying "grrrrrg I'ma kill someone today."

Clearly you take things on a case by case basis. This case had a real threat, no matter what he actually intended to do. You can't go making threats of that magnitude in a public place and not expect some blowback.

If you posted something like that on a kid-friendly website you would get your topic deleted and nothing would be thought or done of it.

Because you've interviewed the administration of every kid friendly site in the world, right?

Yet, if you post it on a website where some of the people are under ten, some of the people are emo, and some of them are responsible adults, you get arrested. Double standards FTL.

The website's clientele had very little to do with this, if anything at all.


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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:08:49

Oh man this was a great read. Nice job NG. You guys prevented what could of been the next big school attack linked towards NG showing in national news like back in 04 or 05. We did good. So the kid seriously had the gas can?

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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:11:06

I'd like to complement the sheer admirable valence of some of the moderators and of Wade for handing all of the information to the police and avoiding a potential catastrophe.

I wonder what it could've been...

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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:11:30

He could have done it if he didn't tell us. Well, it's good he told us!

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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:16:10

At 3/17/09 05:11 PM, Aryk wrote: He could have done it if he didn't tell us. Well, it's good he told us!

Don't be an idiot someone could get that idea like they did before the internet. Worst fear is a school shooting.

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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:17:24

At 3/17/09 04:59 PM, NeonFlame126 wrote: I would be pissed if this happened, but how many emo kids do you think say "I'm going to kill someone today"? I would guess somewhere in the tens of millions. Should we go around every depressed teenager just because (s)he thought about it? Hey, cops, some of these kids think about doing what he posted, let's go arrest all of them for conspiring for murder. Posting something like this on that website would get a "Ignore the attention whore" type response.

Without any evidence to back myself, I think you incorrectly assume it's purely a subcultural thing. Even with subcultural influences being some sort of factor, not all of them are extreme in what they do, or say they'll do. With regards to this sort of crime, I would suspect rates among entire subcultures to be low, if not very low. Particularly in the case of males, crime is largely motivated in subcultures as a means to push higher within the groups. As far as I know, there is little evidence to suggest that sort of motivation in cases like this. Personally, I think you overestimate your figures of "tens of millions" as I've already said about those within subcultures, and we need to keep in mind that things are different culturally: how sirtom93 might have reacted (with subcultural influences or not) would be different to how someone within a different culture would handle it.

Dah, I'm not really making any sense. All the writers that pushed subcultural theory were almost pre-postmodernism, never mind pre-Internet. Admittedly, I don't know much about "emo" subculture either. As far as I understand, it's people saying bad things happen to them... but that makes Warren Zevon an "emo". If it's about thoughts of suicide, then that makes me an "emo". If that's true, tag me into the subcultural theory too.

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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:20:31

The bbs finally helped do something good. Great job to all who helped.


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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:24:49

At 3/17/09 05:00 PM, Tramps wrote: Did anyone actually catch the video at the beginning?

Nobody did because he said his webcam was fail

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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:27:27

At 3/17/09 05:06 PM, Zerok wrote: Your analysis of the situation and what you thought of it is irrelevant, in terms of the level of threat presented.

You said as a threat, I'm stating this isn't a threat.

That's not the same thing AT ALL.

Because "I'm going to kill a bunch of people at my school today, brb"

And

"I want to kill John Doe"

Are TOTALLY not the same thing.

sirtom posted with intent, naming his target, his planned time of action as well as a picture to back up his claims. That's LEAGUES away from someone saying "grrrrrg I'ma kill someone today."

Intent - I wanna kill people
Emo intent - I wanna kill someone

ToA - School (Nearest chance)
Emo ToA - Whenever I can (Nearest chance)

Picture of a greenish box holding no evidence
Picture of them being extremely emo, still no evidence

Clearly you take things on a case by case basis. This case had a real threat, no matter what he actually intended to do. You can't go making threats of that magnitude in a public place and not expect some blowback.

Sorry, should I cluster every instance together and decide from that? I'm pretty sure that's how this business started. The killing one, I mean. How is this threat any less real or public than the hollow "everyday " ones? An open website for flash gamers and makers is less public than a website for emo kids? That's like saying Hot Topic is less public than Macys.

Because you've interviewed the administration of every kid friendly site in the world, right?

If someone reposted this on Nickelodeon.com (or the like) I'm sure you wouldn't get arrested.

The website's clientele had very little to do with this, if anything at all.

Of COURSE it did. If there were a million Rigs and DHTs, this would've turned out much differently than a million people who took it as I did.

But meh, he's in jail for a B.S. thing he never planned to do, just because it happened before. Nothing we can do to change it.


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Response to This is it. 2009-03-17 17:28:42

Great job guys.

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