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At 6/19/09 01:03 PM, Haggard wrote: No, you don't.

Yes you do.


Also quoted from Wikipedia: "Some jurisdictions have required formalities to establishing copyright, but most recognize copyright in any completed work, without formal registration."
Most, but not all.
If you invent something, you have to pay to get a copyright or else they can freely take your ideas and say that they did it.
No, they can't.

Oh my god either you're trolling me or you really want to prove me wrong...YOU NEED TO PAY TO GET A COPYRIGHT...why do you think that the "tm" or whatever sign exists?
To say: this has been copyrighted, you can't copy it.
If it doesen't have it, it automatically means that you can.

Basically, you'll have a copyright on your idea when you make it public. "Making it public" can even be: "Say it out loud in a subway."
However, it might be a bit difficult to prove that you said it out loud in a subway and then someone heard it and stole your idea. ;)

Well, proving that you made it is why copyright exists.
If another guy copyrights YOUR idea then you can't do shit about it unless you have some hard evidence...


You never have to pay to get a copyright. You have to pay to get something patentet, but that's something different (and you only pay a service fee, I think).

Taken from bl.uk:

"Although there are some exceptions, you will need to pay a copyright fee in most cases, including:

If the document you are ordering is intended for any kind of commercial use whatsoever, or research / private study with a commercial purpose
If you are not registered with the British Library, are registered as a commercial organisation or as an individual
If you are based in the USA
If you order a document to be supplied by secure electronic delivery. Customers based in the UK and Ireland may order Library Privilege documents to be supplied by Standard or 24 hour secure electronic delivery, but 2 hour secure electronic delivery always requires payment of a copyright fee.
If you are ordering more than one copy of the same article, or more than one article from the same issue of the journal (a separate copyright fee will have to be paid for each copy we make)
If you want to circulate copies within your organisation."


You copied it and gave it out as your own work, that's infringing the copyright.

And that's where you are wrong because I NEVER SAID IT WAS MY OWN.
Ever.
I just posted it.

Yes you can copy small parts of other books and put it in your own, that's called !quoting". But if you quote someone you have to make it clear, give sources, etc. .

Sure, but only if it's something important...flash reviews are not literature...

And please think before replying.
Great, now l have to read 3 more pages of this thread..


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At 6/19/09 06:46 PM, Wylo wrote: I scanned through every page of reviews to find the users who copied my guide. You know what I found? 2 users right after each other exactly the same that took word-for-word my guide and noone else that took even a single line. So if you took a 'small' part from each of the identical reviews that would still be 50% each.

Right, but how should l know that it was your guide since it was in 3-4 reviews?

seems to me that HeavyTank was legally allowed to do what he did, especially since he did make some noticable edits. Not saying it was ethical, but people here seem to be arguing about the legality of it.

There you go.


They weren't edits. They were add-ons. If out of a 35 line post, and you can claim only 6 lines of it, you can claim it wholly as your own? Its is not only un-ethical, but also illegal.

I didn't claim it as my own, EVER.
And that's what you all failed to understand...


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At 6/20/09 11:36 AM, HeavyTank wrote: Oh my god either you're trolling me or you really want to prove me wrong...YOU NEED TO PAY TO GET A COPYRIGHT...why do you think that the "tm" or whatever sign exists?

Read this, "Is registration required" is the paragraph you're looking for.

Also of interest: Obtaining and enforcing copyright

Also, please don't constantly mix up "trademark" (tm), "registered trademark" (r) and "copyright" (c).

Yes, you have to pay to get it registered, but you don't need to register it to get a copyright granted.
Maybe we where just talking past each other.

And now please let this topic rest... if you want to add something to it, drop me a PM. ;)

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Still going on about the copyright? Wouldn't it be easier to apologize and get it over it?

Anyways, survive for 250 hours just seems impossible when the planes come kicking in(just like in Saving Private Ryan). Giving up on 'Movie fan' medal, it is still hard to do it.

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Quoted from is4profit,com

What is Copyright?

'Copyright gives the creators of certain kinds of material rights to control ways their material can be used. These rights start as soon as the material is recorded in writing or in any other way.'

Your wrong heavytank, just bloody admit.

Also Drop The Bomb is crazy hard, they are all 'americanized' if you catch my drift.


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all drop the bomb questions and answers:

http://www.plunder.com/-download-107e08f a64.htm

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Just realised that the medal system does not support ActionScript 3.
Are there a lot of games that use that yet?

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At 6/20/09 01:34 PM, wadecam wrote: all drop the bomb questions and answers:

http://www.plunder.com/-download-107e08f a64.htm

enjoy

A download link? I don't trust it.

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that game is broken i got to the bonus rond and i didn't get the bomb for 3 clicks and i didn't get the medal crap game

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At 6/20/09 07:03 AM, Xeptic wrote: Right, I think I fixed all the Medal glitches for D-Day Defender, I re-submitted the file but it's gonna take a while for it to get approved. If you see a '1.m' in the top left hand corner of the menu you're playing the glitch-free (I hope) version.

well I unlocked all the in game achievements, but I didn't get a few of them. What does that mean?

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Could anybody suggest anything else that may help me with not getting every question as an undefined question? This is just getting a little old now. I've tried everything that I usually do, but nothing has done the trick, unfortunately.


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At 6/20/09 01:34 PM, wadecam wrote: all drop the bomb questions and answers:

http://www.plunder.com/-download-107e08f a64.htm

enjoy

Uh.. it's hard as fuck to understand anything... There's a shitload of text, and it's all messed up.


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At 6/20/09 03:34 PM, dx5231 wrote:
At 6/20/09 01:34 PM, wadecam wrote: all drop the bomb questions and answers:

http://www.plunder.com/-download-107e08f a64.htm

enjoy
Uh.. it's hard as fuck to understand anything... There's a shitload of text, and it's all messed up.

all you can do is memorize it all and play the game. Unless you're really lucky or have that much knowledge or random US crap

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== Drop The Bomb ==

At 6/20/09 03:30 PM, Gooch wrote: Could anybody suggest anything else that may help me with not getting every question as an undefined question? This is just getting a little old now. I've tried everything that I usually do, but nothing has done the trick, unfortunately.

Delete the SOL file after every play. Importantly, when you don't have the flash open and the grey play button is there.

Each time you play the game, it culls different questions from out in the ether, so the SOL file could at any time, have a mix and match of batches of different questions, and amounts as well.

For example, just a heads up to the people downloading that text file- unless he spent 12 hours sorting and removing duplicates from 200+ instances of opening said SOL file with DIFFERENT QUESTIONS each time, that is in now way a complete file.
Now if he decompiled the code and somehow found where it was pulling from, then, I'll give him this one. But I don't decompile stuff, so... Yeah. :)

Also, who is that guy on that 100 point medal? I googled but do not get the pop culture reference between him and the achievement required to gain said medal.


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At 6/20/09 04:19 PM, KrevZabijak wrote:
Also, who is that guy on that 100 point medal? I googled but do not get the pop culture reference between him and the achievement required to gain said medal.

Here?

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At 5/20/09 05:53 PM, STEM wrote: Mech 2 - Epic Battle Fantasy

how do you get the radar on his shoulder?

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At 6/20/09 01:35 PM, matt-likes-swords wrote: Just realised that the medal system does not support ActionScript 3.
Are there a lot of games that use that yet?

Funny; some of the users in the Flash forum said the opposite; that it only works in AS3 (which clearly wasn't true). Either way, I'm pretty sure many of the 'Games with Medals' use AS3. For example, the Doom Triple Pack uses Alchemy, which converts C++ to AS3, but not AS2.
I can't speak from experience, but perhaps Tom/Psycho/whoever only gives you the relavant code for the version which you are using. After all, AS3 hasn't really lost any functionality from AS2, and certainly not from AS1 (I don't think Pico's School's code was upgraded), so I don't see why it couldn't be used.

Doomsday-One, working on stuff better than preloaders.

By the way, I made the 'Create an Animated Sprite' preloader for Sprite TV 3!


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At 6/20/09 06:19 PM, Doomsday-One wrote:
At 6/20/09 01:35 PM, matt-likes-swords wrote: Just realised that the medal system does not support ActionScript 3.
Are there a lot of games that use that yet?
Funny; some of the users in the Flash forum said the opposite; that it only works in AS3 (which clearly wasn't true).

Some author that I asked to add medals to his game told me so. So I dunno \(o_O)/

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As Xeptic said, the medals for D-Day defender are up and working again! THANKS XEPTIC.

__TIPS FOR D-DAY DEFENDER___

In order to pratically get ALL the medals, follow these simple rules.

-instead of aiming at a specific soldier, aim at a -------......___ angle in a group of soldiers. This way you will kill them a lot faster and less will make it far enough to start shooting you.

-Shoot the tanks, cars, grenade soldiers, AND ALWAYS THE PLANE first because all of these explode, killing everyone around them. Then get the rest of the men left.

-After around 3 days, planes will start coming. Listen for them and shoot at the air when you hear them! Once your hit with one of these bad boys you lose 1/2 of your health! So keep a HEAR out for them.

-In order to watch all of the cutscemes and endure my awful voice acting, go to the nearest grocery or hardware store and buy a set of ear plugs for a dollar. Come back to your game and insert them into your ears. Watch the cutscenes, WARNING: WHEN WATCHING THE CUTSCENES PLEASE DO NOT ACTUALLY WATCH THEM! WATCHING THE CUTSCENES MAY CAUSE SERIOUS BRAIN AND EYE DAMAGE! To avoid accidently looking at the cutscenes, grab a bandana from your house and tie on your head over your eyes.

-use mortar strikes when most needed. Save them up for when your about to die. This applies to every other upgrade.

Well, I hope that helps! With these tips in mind you should be able to get all the medals. :)

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IN order to put medals on an AS3 game goto the Publish Settings and set to FLASH PLAYER 8 or 6.

That should do the trick.

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At 6/20/09 07:00 PM, FatKidWitAJetPak wrote: IN order to put medals on an AS3 game goto the Publish Settings and set to FLASH PLAYER 8 or 6.

Flash Player 9 was the first one to support AS3, so that wont work.


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At 6/20/09 06:58 PM, FatKidWitAJetPak wrote: grab a bandana from your house and tie on your head over your eyes.

omkay i haf the bndana aruhd my head what i do now


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Another shitty game with medals? no way! why don't tom just put something called "standard" already?

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At 6/20/09 10:11 PM, Arthuria99 wrote: Another shitty game with medals? no way! why don't tom just put something called "standard" already?

Pardon, to which are you referring to?


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At 6/20/09 10:17 PM, KrevZabijak wrote:
At 6/20/09 10:11 PM, Arthuria99 wrote: Another shitty game with medals? no way! why don't tom just put something called "standard" already?
Pardon, to which are you referring to?

OCD+ and Drop the bomb of course

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At 6/20/09 08:15 PM, knugen wrote:
At 6/20/09 07:00 PM, FatKidWitAJetPak wrote: IN order to put medals on an AS3 game goto the Publish Settings and set to FLASH PLAYER 8 or 6.
Flash Player 9 was the first one to support AS3, so that wont work.

Huh? Works for me.

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Sorry to say this, but D-day defender is one of the shitty game i mentioned before

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OK WHAT THE FUCK is up with this undefined crap? I tried going to the adobe site to delete the files, I refreshed a shit load of times and I still get questions that are undefined? The author should have his nuts stapled his forehead for even making us go through the hassle to play his crappy ass game

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For crissake, in Heretic, how the hell do I LOOK DOWN? xD
I came out of the map and all of a sudden, my view is stuck UP. It was funny for the first 30 seconds of me trying to find a switch in the Cathedral level, but now I just feel lost and .. a bit loney..

Anyone have the keymaps? The menu only lists the keys for the original Doom/Heretic setup, not as it was ported to flash.

Though thank goodness the source was made open last year. Took them long enough. :)


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