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At 3/8/09 09:32 PM, BananaBreadMuffin wrote:

At 3/8/09 06:13 PM, TheAmateurAnimator wrote: That's why I preferred the original ending with the squid monster and the destruction being blamed on aliens--it didn't make huge presuppositions about Dr. Manhattan's powers.

But the movie didn't make huge presuppositions, it suggested that the powers that be made huge presuppositions, and assumed that it was Dr. Manhattan that destroyed all of the cities in a fit of rage against humanity. That was part of the point, I thought. A giant squid just ends up being cheesy and overpompous.... I thought the "lets blame Dr. Manhattan" thing worked especially well.

I agree I was very satisfied with how they changed that part around. The squid ending might be a little stronger if you really feel like over analyzing because it's something humanity actually has to fight together rather than watch out for together. Of course the squid ending necessitates the whole island segment and at nearly three hours already it would be silly to tack on something that drifts so far away from the main cast. Dr. Manhattan ended the Vietnam conflict in a week, I think that gave humanity more than enough impetus to fear his powers

At 3/8/09 09:32 PM, BananaBreadMuffin wrote: A giant squid just ends up being cheesy and overpompous....

But that's the whole point! In the technical sense, Ozymandias (in the book) says that it needed to be something so over-the-top ridiculous that people had to believe it. In a thematic sense, the squid advances the satire and subversion of classic comic book superhero cliches.

Not only that, but the squid is supposed to be an alien, a completely outside force whose attacking will bring the world together. In that light, the Dr. Manhattan thing that the movie did just doesn't make a lot of sense. He's America's superweapon. Wouldn't everyone ultimately blame the Americans for the destruction, even if some American cities were attacked?

In any event, I thought the movie was an okay enough adaptation, but it could have been so much more. I loved the opening credits, but after that it was a slight downwards trudge of wobbly plot progression, poor directorial choices, and awful acting on the part of Malin Akerman (Silk Spectre). It certainly comes nowhere close to the book's greatness, especially in terms of the final act, which turns a decent movie into a just-this-side-of mediocre one.

Two parts of the new and not-improved ending in particular made me especially furious, but I can't really fault Zack Snyder for them since I feel like these were almost definitely caused by studio intervention. Firstly, why do we never see the destruction of the Dr. Manhattan bomb-things? In the book, we got a jaw-dropping, heartrending six whole pages of bloody messes of corpses (some of characters that we've gotten to know) and indiscriminate horror. In the movie, we see a few people get vaporized and a big crater. It completely sucks the impact out of the moment. It's just another special effect in a movie chock-full of them instead of the emotional high point of the film.

Secondly, the thing that pissed me off even more, was the way they had Nite Owl completely uncharacteristically beat up Ozymandias after Rorschach's death, something that didn't happen in the book at all. I can imagine the conversation in the studio's boardroom:

"What? What do you mean the bad guy gets away with it without any consequences? No no, moviegoers are much too stupid and simplistic to go for something like that, we better at least rough him up somewhat. We have to punish him a little, otherwise the audience might get confused and think that there are moral shades of gray in this story or some other stupid shit like that."

At 3/8/09 01:16 PM, TheAmateurAnimator wrote: My only complaints:
And it felt to me as if the film established Veidt/Ozymandias as the villain too soon. When I read the comic book, I didn't have the impression that he was a bad guy until everything started to lead up to him; in the movie, I could tell right away (not because I had already read the book, but because there was something villainous in his tone of voice).

I'd have to say it was you knowing from reading the book. I'd not read the book beforehand. While it's true there was something off with him, I just assumed it was because he was a rich pompous asshole, not the eventual villain.

The movie was great overall though, and I enjoyed it more than I thought I would.

I can't believe people are saying how much they liked the music.
I thought the choice of music was cliche and obvious.
I thought it was probably the weakest aspect of the film and really ruined parts of the film.
Something you would expect from a movie starring Hugh Grant.

Glowing blue guy in businessman suit FTW!

I wanted to see this film, but I don't think I'll be able to watch it until it's released on DVD.

I work in a cinema, but we won't be getting this film. Now I have to wait until Friday so that I can go and watch Gran Torino. I've been waiting so long for this movie to come, and it's finally here.

I could haul my ass up to Edinburgh to see Watchmen, but I'm not that keen!

I saw it just the other day, it was awesome. I had never even heard of Watchmen before, but I loved the film. Rorschach was the fucking MAN!

Lol, when I first saw his face, I thought he had been switched with some homeless guy who yelled "GIVE ME BACK MY FISH!" My friends laughed at me for that one...

Still, awesome film.

At 3/6/09 04:03 AM, PaperBagMask wrote: I saw it on a school trip, I thought it was pretty good.
I also heard it was based on a manga so I think I'll have to get the manga now!

WTF? is your school an art school or something? if not,your school is awesome.

The intro montage was one of the most significant things I've seen in a long long time.

Snyder managed to work pages and pages of backstory into two minutes and he did it so fucking PERFECTLY

At 3/9/09 12:46 PM, GodsBitch wrote: I wanted to see this film, but I don't think I'll be able to watch it until it's released on DVD.

I work in a cinema, but we won't be getting this film. Now I have to wait until Friday so that I can go and watch Gran Torino. I've been waiting so long for this movie to come, and it's finally here.

I could haul my ass up to Edinburgh to see Watchmen, but I'm not that keen!

your cinema sucks balls. also,to all the malin akerman haters, what are you, gay?

Saw it on Friday and thought it was pretty damn good.

I will agree with a lot of people who have already said before, too much cock. And Dr Manhattan sometimes had his cock out, sometimes didn't, but either way blue cawk isn't all that impressive so put it away in future.

At 3/9/09 12:09 AM, Dr-Worm wrote:

Secondly, the thing that pissed me off even more, was the way they had Nite Owl completely uncharacteristically beat up Ozymandias after Rorschach's death, something that didn't happen in the book at all.

I actually prefer Dan beating up Ozy over Dan fucking Laurie (would you really want to see THAT again?) while his friend dies.

At 3/9/09 04:28 PM, thegreatmorph wrote: blue cawk isn't all that impressive so put it away in future.

It was swaying quite impressively.

As far as Dr. Manhattan's junk is concerned, I need to ask people to grow the fuck up on the matter.

There's tits, rape, sex scenes...several sex scenes actually, murder, murder, murder, torture, murder, war, war, murder, murder, bloody murder, and a complex storyline involving psychopaths and ethereals.

The Graphic Novel was for Adults. The movie is for adults.

It's incredibly artsy. Every scene. The fact that people get so uncomfortable with Dr. Manhattan's junk proves that they're insecure with their own sexuality or at least just straight-up immature.

Men have dicks! Ewww!!!

Get over it. One of the things I loved about this movie is that they censored nothing, keeping it's artistic integrity. That's why I think this director is a badass (the same guy who did 300) that's why I respect the actors and actresses for doing a brilliant job, that's why I appreciate David Hayter (Solid Snake) for keeping the original story intact in the screenplay.

We need more movies like this. Demi-God glowing package or not.

Oh yeah, and grow up. You come to a website who donned the catchphrase "Cock Joke" yet you can't handle watching a movie with Dr. Manhattan in it.

I saw this movie yesterday, and i have to say i was very disappointed in the way it turned out. It was 3 hours of my live i will never get back. The story plot made no sense,and you spent the whole time wondering where this is leading to.

At 3/10/09 04:36 PM, rome-lherison wrote: I saw this movie yesterday, and i have to say i was very disappointed in the way it turned out. It was 3 hours of my live i will never get back. The story plot made no sense,and you spent the whole time wondering where this is leading to.

Maybe if you spent more hours of your LIFE learning how to be fucking articulate.

I really enjoyed the movie, I wasn't annoyed that there were differences to the comic and I welcomed a lot of the new additions, the ending seemed a tad more appropiate for a post 9/11 society.

What a lot of people are missing is why Dr. Manhatten is naked. It's because he doesn't see any point in putting on clothes. This is the most immediatly visable sign that he's divorced from humanity and it's values.
Do you remember the tv scene (he wore clothes because it was on tv) where he changed his coloring? It would be just as easy for him to take on a human skin tone. The man simply doesn't feel the need.

What i did like about the movie was the rape scenes. I laughed.

At 3/10/09 04:53 PM, rome-lherison wrote: What i did like about the movie was the rape scenes. I laughed.

A mentality like that is why in 10 years you'll be getting it up the arse in a prison

Finished reading the novel, loved it, want to go see film.

Dr. Manhattan and his superpowered blue cawk are the gods of newgrounds

Good parts:
- All the important stuff from the graphic novel is there and it's very nicely translated to cinema.
- The ending was arguably better than in the source material. I did wtf'd at the giant squid when reading the novel.
- Lack of censorship was a pleasant surprise. Some scenes were very graphic in their portrayal of violence and really made me go EWWW. Also delicious blue cock.
- Great cast that nailed the characters.
- Awesome intro.

The bad:
- Due to heavy stylizing, it was hard to distinguish between time periods.
- Generic music score. Also Hallelujah.. god that was awful.
- Bad makeup on the aged Silk Specter.
- The 'NOOOOOO' scene.

So yeah.

I was surprised at how much it was a shaggy dog story. There was so much tension building up, but in the end the entire thing just seemed pointless, as it was going to happen anyway.

Still, a good movie. The acting and the fight scenes were very well coreagraphed, as well as the character study. I give it *** (out of 4).

I cant wait to see it, I'm finishing the comic before i go.

havent seen it yet... i will soon...

This movie is destined to become a drinking game.

Don't believe me?

See the movie and bring along a bottle or too of your favorite alcoholic beverage, preferably shots.

Now, everytime there's sexual tension, sexual moments or nudity, take a shot.

You'll be totally hammered once the 3 Hours is up.

I finally saw it yesterday, totally alone in an almost empty cinema. But I have to say it's a great movie, I think it's one of the most great visual experiences I had, Zack Snyder once again proves that a movie can be loyal to the source material... well not totally but still, the most loyal comic book adaptation to date. It has finally been filmed with full respect.

And about the casting, I didn't like too much the guy who played Ozymandias and the girl who played Silk
Spectre is pretty hot, but her part didn´t convince me.

But anyway, it's the best movie of 2009 so far.

The content itself was very enjoyable, but a lot of it was just...weird. I didn't really get the ending.

So, the moral is, it's okay to kill massive amounts of people because that's going to cause peace? Was there something deeper in the story I was missing? I mean, sheesh, that was the message I got from it.

And wouldn't everyone just simply live in fear? I mean, they wouldn't be fighting, but it would still be a miserable place as people would be scared at anything that could happen. Or wouldn't they make more nuclear weapons and stuff to find Dr. Manhattan?

All I can say is after a good week or so of reflection is simply; fuck the watchmen.

I just finished reading the graphic novel yesterday, overall it was a good book, but it didn't entirely live up to my expectations. The ending was a bit strange aswell, but I wont spoil it for anyone who hasn't read it yet. From what I've been told, the ending to the movie is different from the ending of the graphic novel, which I'm not sure is going to be a good thing or not.

Anyway, I plan on seeing the movie soon now that I've finished the graphic novel. I've been told that the movie is much more enjoyable if you've read the graphic novel, so I'm expecting the movie to be great. Hopefully it will live up to my expectations.