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At 3/4/09 02:39 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:
A closed mind is a closed mind, and the blind is the blind.

I would also say that such a conspiracy to merge countries would also have my full support. Simpler system = more efficient = more possibility for it doing public good

At 3/4/09 02:36 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:

So I know you're very critical of Obama and all that (which is fine) but are you really willing to be so critical of this guy that you'll say ANY criticism (no matter how extreme and unproveable...

FACT

September 1983: As part of his spiritual training, and to please his cruel lord Crom, Obama buries thousands of Atari ET cartridges in the desert.

Why is it that whenever someone doesn't like a leader, they compare him to Hitler? It's fine to be critical of the president, and any political leader for that matter, but be logical about it.

At 3/4/09 05:08 PM, KemCab wrote:

At 3/4/09 04:44 PM, Patton3 wrote: Why is it that whenever someone doesn't like a leader, they compare him to Hitler? It's fine to be critical of the president, and any political leader for that matter, but be logical about it.

Because Hitler is the worst leader imaginable, and in an era of increased secularism, it makes a lot more sense to compare someone to Hitler than to the second most favorable comparison, the Antichrist.

Well, first of all, it's not like the Anti Christ has ever( or ever will ) existed. Then, there are far worse people than Hitler, Stalin in particular comes to mind. However, Hitler is definitively the most well known horrible, evil even, leader. Yet the grounds upon which most people compare politicians to Hitler are almost always completely false or greatly exaggerated.

At 3/3/09 11:28 PM, FowlBeast wrote:

If you can't see how ridiculous that is, I really don't know what to say.

He's comparing the Obama's political program to the Nazi Political-Economic Program, I.E. centralization and world empire.

At 3/4/09 03:35 PM, KemCab wrote: Or, in fact, if you believe in that bullshit in the first place. I mean, forget about the lack of proof, the ridiculous concepts that the theory engenders, such as 'The Fourth Reich' or eugenics or a totalitarian world-state, or even something as modest as a socialist dictatorship in the United States. It's not going to happen soon: the blunt and mundane reality most likely is that he's just another guy who can't fulfill all his campaign promises.

But see, there's no fun in that Kem, no no, for the beating that the Republican's took they couldn't have just been beaten by some ordinary politician, no no, surely they were beaten by the lord of all evil, or because people are stupid, or a combination of both. Or maybe it's like I and others have pointed out: Most people (and this is not me saying it's right or it's wrong, I place no moral judgement on what I believe just be a simple fact in this case) when you see one party holding a majority across the branches of government, and you believe and see evidence of your quality of life going down, or these people saying and doing things that are out of touch with the general publics value system, they will get voted out. They will lose their jobs and the other side will get a chance to try. I really do believe Obama won just as much because people wanted to say "fuck you Republicans" as anything he said he'd do or promised. The fact is the Republicans had a lot of time in power, and they blew it. Now the Democrats are being given a shot to either fix the problems, or blow it.

Those people were just as insane as the rest- not to mention a lot of those stickers could be construed as threatening. I sure as hell wouldn't want someone calling for my 'abortion'.

Once again, do you know WHY you can't make a threat against the President on this board people? Because the Secret Service monitors EVERYTHING, and what they can't monitor themselves they'll have local law enforcement monitor. Trust me, this site alone had dozens and dozens of visits from the SS during the Bush administration from people shooting their mouth off. It isn't just Obama that gets this kind of consideration twits, it's EVERY president!!! But you keep seeing these stories because frankly, the Right may not have a monopoly on hateful assholes that like to say dumb things, but it sure has an inordinate amount of them.

And honestly, I believe that a world government is inevitable. We're all human, after all, we all have common goals and interests, and it's better that we work together than against each other. Possibly not in this century, but it's definitely possible. And it's not necessarily bad.

But that's how the Anti-Christ is supposed to come, so as long as you have believers in Revelations, they will always move to reject such a notion.

At 3/4/09 03:35 PM, KemCab wrote: You are batshit insane if you actually believe Obama is here to bring about the New World Order.

It's funny you mention that when Obama met with British prime minister Gordon Brown about a global new deal recently. There is a video of a clip from CNN on Lou Dobbs with the headline with New World Order.

Here's the video.

This should be enough for you to reconsider the idea you have of Obama supporting a new world order.

At 3/5/09 12:53 AM, JackTipper wrote: It's funny you mention that when Obama met with British prime minister Gordon Brown about a global new deal recently. There is a video of a clip from CNN on Lou Dobbs with the headline with New World Order.

So a CNN headline proves that there's a secret organization to take over the world? Or is it the fact that we met with a long time ally who's also in the financial shit, maybe even a little worse then we are? Yeah, you're right. Total proof of conspiracy and evil there.

This should be enough for you to reconsider the idea you have of Obama supporting a new world order.

But it isn't, for the reasons I mentioned, and again, the point of this thread is about a conspiracy theorist who isn't saying Obama is FORMING a new world order, they're saying he SERVES a group called the New World Order, which is already in place. These are the SAME people who say 9/11 was an inside job, the same people who said Bush served the same group. So unless you're someone willing to say you supported all these other things, then I'm saying your credibility is crap right now. Because what you're doing is saying "oh, conspiracy theories are bullshit...unless it's about someone I hate, then it's all good" which then makes YOU look total irrational and I don't think anybody on this board should take anything you say seriously anymore. At that point you've proven all you'll do is hate for the sake of hating. It's all good if it supports my hate.

I don't know why I even bother with this at this point, Dante has tucked tail and run (again) now that he's been proven wrong. Everybody else who initially came down on the side of this video is gone (what's the matter guys? It's no fun unless the majority of people who come in here are agreeing with you and not presenting any real challenge to the bullshit?), so yeah, what am I doing? Guess I want to see if something, ANYTHING, is salvageable from this nonsense, or if somebody will keep going with it and give me a laugh.

Look at Obama for what he's done. He's broken promises, appointed lobbyists.

The scariest thing is how the media has portrayed him as the Messiah.... giving him a free ride from day one...

I am extremely looking forward to this movie. It's going to wake up a lot of people to the fraud that is Barack Obama.

By the way, to those denying a world government conspiracy, you're simply uninformed.

David Rockefeller wrote about it in his memoirs, saying just the right crisis is needed.

Now we have the right crisis, and world leaders are calling for it on a daily basis.

At 3/5/09 11:29 AM, Mr-Money wrote: By the way, to those denying a world government conspiracy, you're simply uninformed.

David Rockefeller wrote about it in his memoirs, saying just the right crisis is needed.

Now we have the right crisis, and world leaders are calling for it on a daily basis.

YES! THAT'S RIGHT! FUCKIN' PENIS!!!

So 9/11 wasn't the right moment? It was the perfect moment that the NWO would've been implemented... and yet Obama was elected, and people are still speaking openly and critically of Bush.

Yes... that's right... any day now... so much for NEW World Order.

I swear to god, you people really like to piss people off do you.

Obama is a demigogue, yes thats a fact. Obama is nationalizing and socializing the nation, yes thats another fact. Obama is the most socialist president we have had since FDR, yes. More then likely Obama is going to fuck up the country more, well I believe so.

But the idea that Obama is some massive puppet for some new world order scheme (bullshit) and that the economic meltdown was enginered by the worlds elite (also incredibly bullshit to anyone with the most rudimentary concepts of economics) to form a world government is just....laughable.

There's enough to dislike about Obama without getting into the ludicrous. You people just make any reasonable dislike for Obama seem crazy.

I sense by your excessive swearing that you're insecure.

Try ordering David Rockefeller's memoirs on Amazon.com and read it for yourself.

Or.. if you don't want to spend money, go on Google News and search "New World Order". There are now hundreds of mainstream articles per day. It's happening.

I support a NWO.

Fully and thoroughly. As long as it serves the public good.

MP, you don't like him because he's black and you think that Americans would never vote for a black guy based on merit, so you spin these wild conspiracy theories to discredit him. Admit it.

Don't bring race into this.

At 3/5/09 12:24 PM, Mr-Money wrote: I sense by your excessive swearing that you're insecure.

I sense by your empty attempts to read my emotions/mind and play mind reader you're incredibly annoying.

Try ordering David Rockefeller's memoirs on Amazon.com and read it for yourself.

What's the title? Plus ever conceive the possibility of a misunderstanding? What if he's talking about something compeltely different?

Or.. if you don't want to spend money, go on Google News and search "New World Order". There are now hundreds of mainstream articles per day. It's happening.

Yes, the internet... as reliable and concrete as wikipedia.

At 3/5/09 12:42 PM, mikailus wrote: What's the title? Plus ever conceive the possibility of a misunderstanding? What if he's talking about something compeltely different?

Or even something totally hypothetical? From what I understand of the film maker here (I have a hardcore Truther at work that loves to spout about this guy and others like they're somehow Scorsese) this guy believes that there is ALREADY AN NWO!!! It exists, it is there and it is trying to control the world through it's puppets. When people like Obama use the word, it sounds to me more like rhetoric towards making world governments more cooperative (and they should be, everybody is tied in to everybody else financially already) not necessarily that we have to bow to our secret masters. There has never been solid proof that such shit exists, it's just the conspiracy theorists and their conspiracy theorist prophets reading a situation and being smart enough to come up with a credible (to the masses) sounding story to explain it. If anybody asks for evidence? They're sheeple and not smart enough to understand what's really going on like we do. It's The Emperor's New Clothes, or religion, but with a different name.

Oh the mighty spirit of the lynch mob, how they inherit the hearts of anyone who believes anything they're told.

Just look for a second who starting this thread. Look at how absolutely he has no credibility, and let the thread die.

At 3/5/09 12:31 PM, mikailus wrote: MP, you don't like him because he's black and you think that Americans would never vote for a black guy based on merit, so you spin these wild conspiracy theories to discredit him. Admit it.

I introduce to you folks, the Troll of the Thread.

Did you actually read my post where I called bullshit on these theories, or did you just make this post after I complained about him?

At 3/3/09 11:03 PM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote: maybe you should do the fucking research first.

You're job as the topic starter is to provide evidence to support your position, not force others to go looking for it. Do your own damn research.

And let me remind everyone watching that video that you can take any image and manipulate it to make it something it's not, as was the case with Michael Moore's "Bowling for Columbine." And you think the "Obama Truth Squad" during the campaign was a bit much? Moore threatened to sue anybody who spoke ill of his work Fahrenheight 911 during the 2004 Presidential Election.

Oh, and as for "forced military service," we debunked that on our own here a few weeks back. Clicky

When Shaggy talks about 9/11 being an inside job, he's stupid but when conspiracies involve Obama taking over the world, and we're supposed to eat your lies? Fucking hypocrite.

Wow, that whole video is a major non-sequitor. There's no argument or flow of logic. It's just a bunch of random quotes thrown together that don't actually suggest anything.

Does Alex Jones actually have a coherent argument that a New World Order exists, or does he just throw random bits of evidence together?

At 3/5/09 03:34 AM, aviewaskewed wrote:

At 3/5/09 12:53 AM, JackTipper wrote: It's funny you mention that when Obama met with British prime minister Gordon Brown about a global new deal recently. There is a video of a clip from CNN on Lou Dobbs with the headline with New World Order.

So a CNN headline proves that there's a secret organization to take over the world? Or is it the fact that we met with a long time ally who's also in the financial shit, maybe even a little worse then we are? Yeah, you're right. Total proof of conspiracy and evil there.

Don't play funny with me and put words in my mouth. I've never said anything about a evil organization trying to take over the world, nor have I ever said anything about an evil conspiracy. There has been denial of a new world order or more appropriately a new world banking system and its being openly considered by Obama and the British PM. This was merely a response to KemCab (sorry if I got your name wrong).

If you want to make fun of me for spouting conspiracies then wait for me to actually talk about one. As far as plans for a new world banking system goes if its out in the open like this then by definition it couldn't even be considered a conspiracy.

At 3/5/09 05:21 PM, JackTipper wrote: I've never said anything about a evil organization trying to take over the world, nor have I ever said anything about an evil conspiracy.

honestly guys; hes talking about an amoral multinational organisation plotting to control the world's finances. completely different.

At 3/4/09 12:21 PM, hansari wrote:

At 3/4/09 09:51 AM, JackPhantasm wrote:

At 3/4/09 07:27 AM, Drakim wrote: Come on you crazy Americans, give the man you just elected president some trust before you shoot him down, will ya?

But what about the conspiracies?!

http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-truth-ab out-why-obama-cant-be-president/

OPEN YOUR EYES SHEEPLE!!

"Any alterations invalidate this certificate."

At 3/5/09 12:53 AM, JackTipper wrote:

Don't play funny with me and put words in my mouth.

Wasn't trying to Jack. I was just commenting on the words that came out and the inferences I drew.

I've never said anything about a evil organization trying to take over the world, nor have I ever said anything about an evil conspiracy. There has been denial of a new world order or more appropriately a new world banking system and its being openly considered by Obama and the British PM. This was merely a response to KemCab (sorry if I got your name wrong).

But when you talk about an NWO, that is what the NWO is supposed to be isn't it? Isn't that what Mr. Jones and others contend it to be? That's sure as shit what I've been told by all the conspiracy theorists I know, that this was manipulated by bankers and what not. Or are you saying you don't believe that part and what you see here is simply politicians acting in an oppurtunistic manner to create such a system of their own volition? Because when you don't clarify that point to me, I tend to infer that you are agreeing with the idea of a shadow organization that is manipulating and controlling the situation.

If you want to make fun of me for spouting conspiracies then wait for me to actually talk about one. As far as plans for a new world banking system goes if its out in the open like this then by definition it couldn't even be considered a conspiracy.

I've only heard the word TEMPORARY, for most, if not all changes to the banking systems. Also how does only two countries talking about it qualify as a WORLD system? I do still think your talking conspiracies and you're reaching. But if you're not talking about the conspiracy theories that were spouted at the beginning of this thread, then you really should make that clear somewhere in your post so no one misqoutes or misunderstands you.

At 3/5/09 10:54 PM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote: lol I cant believe you guys are taking this seriously, my god I was joking,

jeez....

Yeah, now you're joking, never mind the fact that you seemed dead serious at the start, and when people like Korriken were here backing you up, you sure seemed like you were on the side of what these videos were spouting. Your silence as the thread overwhelmingly turned against it seemed to confirm that. Not to mention that you post EVERY THREAD YOU MAKE THE SAME EXACT WAY, and none of those were jokes that I ever heard. But hey, this one was special right, now it was all a joke right? Haha, that's so friggin funny.