Watch this

[poxpower]

http://www.istartedsomething.com/2009022 8/microsoft-office-labs-vision-2019-vide o/

And consider that some people still live in the jungle with little leaf and stick underpants and hunt fish with harpoons.
Isn't that fucked up? Within 30 years, our society will have integrated technology that will make it seem like the Matrix but there will still be people building huts with cow shit and worrying about lion attacks as they fashion their little stick spears.

Discuss how little you care about this.

I care very little. In fact, it amuses me.

[Me-Patch]

Why do we waste all of our time and money developing incredibly complex technology that is often just an instrument of convenience and comfort? Why don't we put forth a fraction of that time, money, and effort twords improving the living conditions of the common man and to help those aforementioned poor fucks currently living in the stone age get into the 21st century?

[hansari]

At 3/3/09 08:15 AM, poxpower wrote: http://www.istartedsomething.com/2009022 8/microsoft-office-labs-vision-2019-vide o/

Isn't that fucked up? Within 30 years, our society will have integrated technology that will make it seem like the Matrix but there will still be people building huts with cow shit and worrying about lion attacks as they fashion their little stick spears.

Thats assuming the future goes as Microsoft has planned. Some of the stuff looks fairly applicable, but the idea that our classrooms will have vivid touch screens and doctors will have your diagnosis by shoving a plastic gun in your eye, is a bit too optimistic...

I'd be content with just an online database with full catalogs of medical history that doctors nationwide could access...

At 3/3/09 08:56 AM, Me-Patch wrote: Why do we waste all of our time and money developing incredibly complex technology that is often just an instrument of convenience and comfort? Why don't we put forth a fraction of that time, money, and effort twords improving the living conditions of the common man and to help those aforementioned poor fucks currently living in the stone age get into the 21st century?

We're not too good with nationbuilding... -ex. Iraq/Afghanistan

[KartoTolmex]

At 3/3/09 08:15 AM, poxpower wrote: http://www.istartedsomething.com/2009022 8/microsoft-office-labs-vision-2019-vide o/

And consider that some people still live in the jungle with little leaf and stick underpants and hunt fish with harpoons.
Isn't that fucked up? Within 30 years, our society will have integrated technology that will make it seem like the Matrix but there will still be people building huts with cow shit and worrying about lion attacks as they fashion their little stick spears.

Discuss how little you care about this.

I care very little. In fact, it amuses me.

And this whole thing makes you wonder why we have a need to constantly develop new technology and continue fucking up the planet with the products of said development.

Personally I think they're potentially the happiest people on the planet, none of these artificial concerns present that have manifested themselves due to modern life.

And for that reason in a way I envy them. Of course I couldn't just go and join in with them, I've adapted to my creature comforts and I couldn't be without them now.

[RubberTrucky]

It's quite ironic however that these spearmen can survive in harsh conditions, while most of us prime technology people would probably die if an earthquake shuts down a power plant.

It's very lol.

[Me-Patch]

At 3/3/09 10:00 AM, hansari wrote: We're not too good with nationbuilding... -ex. Iraq/Afghanistan

I'm not talking about full scale millitary intervention, I'm talking about humanitarian aid. Theres a huge difference.

[hansari]

At 3/3/09 10:45 AM, Me-Patch wrote: I'm not talking about full scale millitary intervention, I'm talking about humanitarian aid. Theres a huge difference.

I'm more than willing to throw money in when something good will come of it. But where the guarantee?

A lot of these "third world" countries possess corrupt elements and holes where money can easily disappear without oversight.

"Aid" has been known to help impoverished people, but its also been known to be blockaded and or re-routed for use by those people or purposes it wasn't intended for...

[thedo12]

fuck em our comfort is more important right pox ^_^

[Me-Patch]

At 3/3/09 11:19 AM, hansari wrote: I'm more than willing to throw money in when something good will come of it. But where the guarantee?

A lot of these "third world" countries possess corrupt elements and holes where money can easily disappear without oversight.

"Aid" has been known to help impoverished people, but its also been known to be blockaded and or re-routed for use by those people or purposes it wasn't intended for...

I've lived long enough to realize that there is probably no such thing as a truly non-profit orginazation and a guarantee is often worthless. That doesn't mean that there aren't charities out there that help alot of people. Yes, the world is an imperfect place, but that doesn't mean we should just give up. Plenty of aid is non-monetary anyway, and plenty of red-cross and other humanitarian orginazations and shit work directly with the impoverished.

Men shouldn't sit by and watch while his neighbors children starve.

[JackPhantasm]

That didn't look like anything but advanced touch screens.

I am not impressed. Also, I did not see one thing in that video that was made better by the touch screens significantly.

[Major-n0ob]

At 3/3/09 08:56 AM, Me-Patch wrote: Why do we waste all of our time and money developing incredibly complex technology that is often just an instrument of convenience and comfort? Why don't we put forth a fraction of that time, money, and effort twords improving the living conditions of the common man and to help those aforementioned poor fucks currently living in the stone age get into the 21st century?

Because we chose instead to help those who would prefer to help themselves. The "common man" in America is probably an overweight bastard with a high school education. And the savages in third world countries often shun technology anyway. Why should the potential of humanity be held back by those who SHOULD be phased out of existance through evolution anyway?

[Me-Patch]

At 3/3/09 12:26 PM, Major-n0ob wrote: Why should the potential of humanity be held back by those who SHOULD be phased out of existance through evolution anyway?

I fucking hate you.

[Tomsan]

At 3/3/09 11:56 AM, JackPhantasm wrote: That didn't look like anything but advanced touch screens.

I am not impressed. Also, I did not see one thing in that video that was made better by the touch screens significantly.

breaking the language barrier?
extremely simplified handling of information?
real time, time efficiency data processing?
international education?

nah nothing too interesting..

[JackPhantasm]

At 3/3/09 12:48 PM, Tomsan wrote:.

breaking the language barrier?
extremely simplified handling of information?
real time, time efficiency data processing?
international education?

nah nothing too interesting..

The things themselves are cool yes. But the way they show it is just like there are iphones everywhere now and buildings are now giant iphones.

Too be honest, all those things you mentioned have already been done. Just not put into practice.

[JackPhantasm]

Basically the only reason we already don't have EVERYTHING shown in that video is because it's still pricey.

I suppose that's what they're saying, and it's true, the price of electronic technology is going way down.

[hansari]

At 3/3/09 11:43 AM, Me-Patch wrote: I've lived long enough to realize that there is probably no such thing as a truly non-profit orginazation and a guarantee is often worthless. That doesn't mean that there aren't charities out there that help alot of people. Yes, the world is an imperfect place, but that doesn't mean we should just give up. Plenty of aid is non-monetary anyway, and plenty of red-cross and other humanitarian orginazations and shit work directly with the impoverished.

Men shouldn't sit by and watch while his neighbors children starve.

I don't sit by. I give a fair share of my earnings to a charity of my choice each year just to help keep things in perspective.

But the reason I don't get MORE involved is because a lot of these organizations, in the long run, are just putting bandages on flesh wounds.

Its nice to have organizations that are unbiased and carry out their duties peacefully, but that isn't the path for actual progressive change. Progressive change is needed to bring these third world countries to our level. This entails a combination of not just humanitarian aid, but in most cases also military, political, and social intervention...

Take for example Doctors without Borders. I have a friend there who does his part, and good for him for patching up the one or two kids when he went to Lebanon, thats important.

But it doesn't fix the problem at large. And the significant amount of red-tape and hassling he got from both sides when his organization tried to help out didn't make things any easier (DWB is unbiased in any conflict, so they treat both sides, even if they setup camp for primarily one group)

Again, humanitarian aid is important, but needs to be supplement with much more action. Or else the problem won't change...just taken care of temporarily...

[hippl5]

At 3/3/09 08:56 AM, Me-Patch wrote: Why do we waste all of our time and money developing incredibly complex technology that is often just an instrument of convenience and comfort? Why don't we put forth a fraction of that time, money, and effort twords improving the living conditions of the common man and to help those aforementioned poor fucks currently living in the stone age get into the 21st century?

Because other than the feeling of "I did the right thing" you don't get shit from the bastards.

[Me-Patch]

At 3/3/09 03:12 PM, hansari wrote: Again, humanitarian aid is important, but needs to be supplement with much more action. Or else the problem won't change...just taken care of temporarily...

I don't think we hold many conflicting views on the subject.

[Me-Patch]

At 3/3/09 03:22 PM, hippl5 wrote: Because other than the feeling of "I did the right thing" you don't get shit from the bastards.

Feeling good is all anybody really wants in life anyway.

[Major-n0ob]

At 3/3/09 12:28 PM, Me-Patch wrote:

At 3/3/09 12:26 PM, Major-n0ob wrote: Why should the potential of humanity be held back by those who SHOULD be phased out of existance through evolution anyway?

I fucking hate you.

Aww...you're so sweet. I love you too man.

[Christopherr]

I don't understand why we preserve these cultures, saying that they have a right to keep their culture, yet not do anything about the Hispanic culture bleeding into southwestern US. So, for consistency, I say that we either assimilate these tribes into modern culture or reject drastic changes to the US culture (ex. make English the official language).

At 3/3/09 11:56 AM, JackPhantasm wrote: That didn't look like anything but advanced touch screens. I am not impressed. Also, I did not see one thing in that video that was made better by the touch screens significantly.

After buying an iPod Touch, I firmly believe that touch screens hate you. I'm going back to a buttony iPod. But hey, at least I don't have a Zune.

At 3/3/09 10:00 AM, hansari wrote: We're not too good with nationbuilding... -ex. Iraq/Afghanistan

Hey, historically, the US has done an exceptional job at protecting (for some, nurturing) many nations in the Americas and Pacific. Think Cuba and the Philippines, maybe Japan and South Korea. Don't judge the US so harshly based only on a not-so-stellar job happening only recently.

[hippl5]

At 3/3/09 03:29 PM, Me-Patch wrote:

At 3/3/09 03:22 PM, hippl5 wrote: Because other than the feeling of "I did the right thing" you don't get shit from the bastards.

Feeling good is all anybody really wants in life anyway.

Not everyone gets the "good" feeling from doing the same specific thing.

[Me-Patch]

At 3/3/09 03:45 PM, hippl5 wrote:

At 3/3/09 03:29 PM, Me-Patch wrote: Feeling good is all anybody really wants in life anyway.

Not everyone gets the "good" feeling from doing the same specific thing.

I never said they did.

[hansari]

At 3/3/09 03:28 PM, Me-Patch wrote:

At 3/3/09 03:12 PM, hansari wrote: Again, humanitarian aid is important, but needs to be supplement with much more action. Or else the problem won't change...just taken care of temporarily...

I don't think we hold many conflicting views on the subject.

Lets elope!

Then tell our friends and family about it after the honeymoon...

[Brick-top]

At 3/3/09 08:56 AM, Me-Patch wrote: Why do we waste all of our time and money developing incredibly complex technology that is often just an instrument of convenience and comfort?

Two words:

Supply and demand.

[Elfer]

At 3/3/09 08:56 AM, Me-Patch wrote: Why don't we put forth a fraction of that time, money, and effort twords improving the living conditions of the common man and to help those aforementioned poor fucks currently living in the stone age get into the 21st century?

Those people have no money.

Just kidding. They have a little bit of money, and there's been some recent work by businesses trying to tap into that market by making affordable water treatment devices and such.

[KidneyThief]

I want the music lol