Racist Obama Cartoons?

[ForNoReason]

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/20 09/02/19/the-five-most-racist-obama-cart oons/

This is a list of the "Five Most Racist Obama Cartoons". I have to admit I don't see any of these as racist. There is some prejudice, and possible ignorance or stupidity, but the majority is satire and political jabbing that would be seen if we had a white president. The fact that word racism is thrown around so liberally disturbs me. Do I agree with what these cartoons say? Not really, but I don't think the illustrators should be punished. Thoughts?

[hansari]

At 2/27/09 01:38 PM, ForNoReason wrote: http://news.aol.com/political-machine/20 09/02/19/the-five-most-racist-obama-cart oons/

This is a list of the "Five Most Racist Obama Cartoons". I have to admit I don't see any of these as racist. There is some prejudice, and possible ignorance or stupidity, but the majority is satire and political jabbing that would be seen if we had a white president. The fact that word racism is thrown around so liberally disturbs me. Do I agree with what these cartoons say? Not really, but I don't think the illustrators should be punished. Thoughts?

If you don't sit back and take something in as neutrally as you can, but rather, intend on looking hard enough with the intent of finding something racist, chances are you will find something offensive.

Not just in a cartoon, but in anything...

Gotta feel bad for people like that...

[thedo12]

yeah I saw this on cnn after obamas trip to canada. they were talking this guy who said that when it comes to talking about race americans are cowards, btw I completly agree not just americans but pretty much all western society are cowards when talking about race.

[PARAGON-pvp]

They think its racist just cuz im white!!!!!!

[Idiot-Finder]

http://www.hiphopmusic.com/2009/02/sean_
delonas_ny_post_obamamonk.html

The people commented jumped the bandwagon.

[Al6200]

What I think is funny is that people more or less have to not draw Obama darker than other people because they don't want to be accused of racism. But they're accused of racism.

[Christopherr]

Using monkeys to represent a politician viewed by the author as unintelligent is not a new thing. I can't source anyone, but over the years I've seen plenty of white people portrayed as primates in political cartoons. It's not racist, it's just making a connection between what is viewed as the less intelligent evolutionary ancestors of humans and certain humans.

Damn, America is too PC nowadays. Get the fuck over it.

[SolInvictus]

At 2/27/09 04:04 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote: http://www.hiphopmusic.com/2009/02/sean_
delonas_ny_post_obamamonk.html

The people commented jumped the bandwagon.

what a bunch of fuck-nuts; them and Al Sharpton.

[Idiot-Finder]

At 2/27/09 04:27 PM, SolInvictus wrote:

At 2/27/09 04:04 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote: http://www.hiphopmusic.com/2009/02/sean_
delonas_ny_post_obamamonk.html

The people commented jumped the bandwagon.

what a bunch of fuck-nuts; them and Al Sharpton.

My parents jump on it too, at least hey didn't buy into 9/11 conspiracy crap.

Also I've seen worse from Delonas, remember Corey Lidle?

Here's your halo and the harp, but we'll have to hold the wings...

People are now overanalyzing things

[hansari]

At 2/27/09 04:33 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote:

People are now overanalyzing things

There not "overanalyzing"... there deliberately looking for things to be offended by.

Why? Because these kind of people always assume the worst of society...

[Achilles2]

None of them are racist. All of them are ignorant and/or stupid.

The artist of the first one clearly knew that portraying blacks are monkeys is one of the most racist drawings you could ever make, yet he still did it. It was a 100% stupid move on his part.

The rest are saying that Obama is a Muslim, when he's clearly not, and that all Muslims hate America, follow bin Laden, and blow themselves up, which they obviously don't.

Political Correctness isn't the problem; stupidity on the part of those who say "PC is stupid, man" is.

[hansari]

At 2/27/09 06:25 PM, Achilles2 wrote: Political Correctness isn't the problem; stupidity on the part of those who say "PC is stupid, man" is.

How does the Rev. Wright one say that?

And the waffles?

The only one you could make an argument for really is the "replace just one letter" thing, New yorker ad.

But the New Yorker to me is mocking what Fox did when it brought up how some people thing the Obama's did a "terrorist fist jab" thing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xScZN2-Z_
Sg&feature=related

[Korriken]

People really need to stop comparing monkeys to Obama. I mean seriously, the monkeys at the local zoo are getting offended by it. Lately they've been flinging poo at people and picketing.

[stafffighter]

The monkey one might not be racist until you see that it's clearly two poilcemen who shot it. Monkey represented a black guy, with policemen having shot him.

The one from the new yorker had him as a muslim along with his wife as a black panter in the oval office. Essentually saying this is what we'll get with them. That's racist. A fist bump makes her a member of a violent radical group from the 70's?

Putting him on the waffle box is racist both from the aunt jamima refrence and the steriotype of black people loving waffles.

[RubberTrucky]

see, the thing on the internet is that people are into trolling.
I don't think the dude who made this site actually wants to prove racism in those pictures. Nor are the people who react like an outraged black person really mad, or black, for the matter.

[Idiot-Finder]

Also there are cartoons even more offending than this, I remember when he drew a catoon suggesting that it was Socks who ran over Buddy (with a monster truck)

Then there's "Any vacancy?" cartoon regarding Abu Garib

People should be happy at least it wasn't certain shock jocks on the radio

I don't get the Clinton and the chicken though, inside joke?

[KartoTolmex]

Monkey Cartoon Draws Fire

Definitely not racist in the slightest. It is obviously a jab aimed at how the representatives in charge are monkeys. I've heard the phrase "Office monkey", a term given to someone performing a low key task that anyone could do.
Perhaps that is why I can see this one for what it actually is.

The New Yorker "Terrorist Fist Jab" Cover

Possibly has slight racial undertones, but the "Fist Jab" I see white people do all the time as well, and the outfits that he has selected for them bear relevance. If a white person was named Obama, they would almost certainly still use the same device for humour.

he Values Voter Summit "Obama Waffles" Box

By how they describe how Barack's caricature appears on the sides "The back and sides of the box also featured Obama in an Arab headress and a Mexican sombrero" it can be taken in two ways.

1) A President who is universal and represents different angles
2) The use of ethnics as an inferior article to promote waffle sales.

One of them sounds quite ridiculous when written like that. the more racist of the three so far in any case.

he Investor's Business Daily Jeremiah Wright Cartoon

I think this is more of a jab at Africa's mentality, than anything else, I really don't have much to say about this one.

The "Suicide Obama" Cartoon

Obviously racist, but as it's so blatant and tongue-in-cheek, I really don't see a problem with it.

[SolInvictus]

At 2/27/09 06:25 PM, Achilles2 wrote: None of them are racist. All of them are ignorant and/or stupid.

The artist of the first one clearly knew that portraying blacks are monkeys is one of the most racist drawings you could ever make, yet he still did it. It was a 100% stupid move on his part.

but this should be irrelevant. if someone wants to poke fun at bureaucracy they shouldn't have to come up with an approach that differs from the satirisation of a "white" bureaucracy; to do so would be much more detrimental.

The rest are saying that Obama is a Muslim, when he's clearly not, and that all Muslims hate America, follow bin Laden, and blow themselves up, which they obviously don't.

but like the description said, it was intended to reference and ridicule the concept of Obama being a stealth Muslim. it may be tasteless (i'm not sure a stealth Jew comic would be appreciated either), but i'm not sure it would qualify as racist.

[TimeLordX]

I don't think the monkey one is racist because Obama didn't write the stimulus package; congress did. The monkey represents congress, not Obama. Anyone who says otherwise obviously hasn't been paying attention.

[hansari]

At 2/27/09 07:46 PM, stafffighter wrote: The one from the new yorker had him as a muslim along with his wife as a black panter in the oval office. Essentually saying this is what we'll get with them. That's racist. A fist bump makes her a member of a violent radical group from the 70's?

Again, I think the New Yorker was just parodying the whole "terrorist fist jab" that Fox broad casted about when the clip started circulating.

If the New Yorker wanted to imply anything about the presidential election, I think we would've seen a clear article or something the newspapers endorsement for a certain candidate...

[Al6200]

At 2/27/09 04:24 PM, Christopherr wrote: Using monkeys to represent a politician viewed by the author as unintelligent is not a new thing. I can't source anyone, but over the years I've seen plenty of white people portrayed as primates in political cartoons. It's not racist, it's just making a connection between what is viewed as the less intelligent evolutionary ancestors of humans and certain humans.

It's a pretty nasty to thing to say to someone in any case. I'm honestly pretty disappointed that it's acceptable to call someone a monkey as long as they're from a certain ethnic group.

[Dawnslayer]

The second to last one isn't a cartoon; it's radical propaganda and therefore doesn't count. "Suicide Obama" was in very poor taste, but not necessarily racist. The "New Yorker" cover threw me for a loop when I heard about it, and if I were to vote on any of these that cover would be it. But it's not because Obama's shown as a Muslim, or even because Michelle is made out as a guerilla dictator (as much as that pushed the envelope); it's because they are portrayed as having tossed the American flag into a fireplace.

That's my piece.

[blackattackbitch]

My evaluation of the cartoons:

#1) No. Not even in the least bit. Nothing about this points to Obama. The sad thing though is that EVERYONE is jumping on this dumbass bandwagon. Even my mom. At least my stepdad stayed clear of the bandwagon though. The cartoon was funny, in my opinion, and very true.

#2) When one considers the context, it's not racist in the least bit. They were making fun of the goddamn rumors going around about Obama, for Christ's sake! Fuck these extra-sensitive bitches No, this cartoon was not funny. It was interesting though.

#3) No. Definitely not in the least bit. Get the sand out of your vaginas, people! And yes, this cartoon was hilarious. I might make this my background.

#4) Very very loosely, if only for the fact that otherwise the cartoon would be pretty stupid. But the hints of racism are so weak, considering that Wright actually does kinda talk like that, that you would need a pretty big broomstick up your ass to wanna make a fuss about it.

#5) Considering that Obama making those statements was a political suicide attempt, calling this a racist cartoon would mean that you're ignoring damn near everything about the damn cartoon. And this cartoon was a little funny.

All in all, AOL is digging pretty hard to find hints of racism in order to make their story viable. The editors should have had good sense not to make their whole news section look idiotic by allowing this garbage article of pure oversensitive subjectivism onto their pages.

[D2Kvirus]

He's barely been in a month, and already the race card is being played all too freely by his acolytes.

There's a good sign of how the next four years are going to go, then - right up there with the fact he hasn't got his daughters their promised puppy in the three months since he won the Election.