Religion is real, but god is not

[Kucharm]

The basic structure of religion is very real, people follow a god because they want to answer questions right? So they look to the sky because where else could this come from? My only statements

1. How do you explain the strikingly accurate similarities between Horus the sun god and other gods before him and Jesus Christ?

2. I know that god "knows the future" but it honestly makes no sense why he would want so many people to be "murdered" in the name of god when this is against one of the ten commandments.

3. Christianity is an old view, why can't people grow up and realize that it is not real. Religion is the very thing that is destroying this world, I understand we will probably never get over it, but can't we try. Look at some of the things in the bible, some of the stories, pick up a history book and read it. You can see that the "church" obviously used religion as a basis of creating power and respect among peers. The story of Joseph living in a "big fish" for 3 days is absolutly outlandish, and I understand that this is suppose to be a miracle. And I understand that people want an explanation of the unexplained, but why does this have to be a miracle. Why can't it just be a coincidence that things happen because they just happen. 93% of scientists are either agnostic or aetheist. And we have realized that some scientist are the smartest people in the world, but yet when these people tell you that god is not real and religion isn't good then we shun them and tell them they are ridiculous.

[Ruyuk]

Bull. both are real.

[YahooAnswers]

Relgion keeps 60% of people in check.

[Sarcasm]

The theory of a higher power can neither be proven or disproven.

Ends.

[lightblob]

If God isn't real then who created us.
If you say cells multiplied and were made into us, then how'd the first cell come to existence?

[xports]

At 2/23/09 05:07 PM, Sarcasm wrote: The theory of a higher power can neither be proven or disproven.

Ends.

That. I'm tired of arguing God's existence. Let me believe this, you believe that, and let's all be happy.

[Sheizenhammer]

Please, no more religious debate threads. We have enough of them already, and the vast majority just degenerate into flame wars after about 10 posts anyway.

You can't prove any of it, either way, but that doesn't stop everyone from trying.

[Alpharius120]

This thread is a flamewar waiting to happen.
Religion threads are never a good idea.

[DeathNoteetoNhtaeD]

At 2/23/09 05:15 PM, lightblob wrote: If God isn't real then who created us.

Nothing.

If you say cells multiplied and were made into us, then how'd the first cell come to existence?

Big Bang > Star formation > planet formation > elements bond on Earth to form compounds(like water) > cells come into existence > evolution takes it from there.

Fucking Christians.

[ChickenGod]

I agree completely, and you can use this fact sometime you're debating with a zealot:

Christianity was created when governments were losing power. They needed people to follow the law on there own, seeing as how there were hardly any cops or any authority. People just lived in Anarchy, and the government wasn't making any money, or taxes etc.
The governments pretty much told severel writers to write the bible, based off of the Torah, and several older religions (the Egyptian sun god was a HUGE influence on Jesus' story)
But even then, these governments wanted the stories to act as morals, not meant to be interpreted as true stories. But too many people (even today) are gullible dumb-asses so they believe that Jesus saved them (somehow) by crucifixion.

[ChickenGod]

Big Bang > Star formation > planet formation > elements bond on Earth to form compounds(like water) > cells come into existence > evolution takes it from there.

Fucking Christians.

I agree with you, but just to clear things up, what is your theory of how the big bang started? And what was before the big bang?

[Dragonberry]

I've always told my friends that their god is the most hypocritical one. He'll kill a bunch of people for the rest of people, but say that killing is against people. He is also the most vengeful. If you sin, you go to hell, the worst place imaginable.

[lilninja]

although I also don't believe in God the second statement you made isn't so accurate as although God is believed to be omnipotent and omniscient he also granted human beings free will so he doesn't control people actions.

God is old news anyway, It's all about Ultra Jesus these days.

[thelittleemo]

Well the main reason that religion started was because people wanted a reason to explain things, and if there's some almighty power, then you have your answer to what makes things. As for if God is real, I don't know, but I will beleive what i want to , and you can beleive what you want to.

Although you bring up some good points.

[DroopyA]

At 2/23/09 05:04 PM, Kucharm wrote: 1. How do you explain the strikingly accurate similarities between Horus the sun god and other gods before him and Jesus Christ?

Bullshit movie twisted facts to only point out what they wanted to point out. Hours was a god, not a man... he also didn't have any deciples nor could he have been killed and ressurected from the dead (You know, cause he's a god). The Horus story was changed after Christianity had started taking foot in the surrounding areas. Horus only gained these things after Jesus...

Doesn't prove if it's real, but it answers your question.

2. I know that god "knows the future" but it honestly makes no sense why he would want so many people to be "murdered" in the name of god when this is against one of the ten commandments.

If you where going to control every thing, why even make it? Why give man free-will if all you're going to do is force him to do the right thing all the time? Chaos is an important part of life... if you where God and knew that your creations where safe in death, why would you care if they die? At this point, wouldn't it be best to let them make their own descisions and learn from their own mistakes?

3. Christianity is an old view, why can't people grow up and realize that it is not real.

Because there's no proof that says it isn't real. And you don't have anything that others haven't already found and said... there is enough reason to believe that God does exist and that's all some people need.

Besides, religion is good for society, so even it if is wrong, why do you care? Stop being so negative and look at all the good things it's brought us... the art, the structures, the life lessons, the 10 commandments (basic laws of society), the hope, and the human bonding.

[Upyourarsenal24]

God is real... So is religion.... This is gonna get locked. But why do you think he isn't real? I guess you just can't wait to see Satan.

[Zerok]

No religious debate threads.