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Response to Tropic Thunder, Really? 2009-02-23 12:49:10

Feeding the troll. OP is Troll.

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Response to Tropic Thunder, Really? 2009-02-23 12:54:50

What Downey Jr. did was no different than any other actor portraying any other character. It wasn't by any means 'blackface' which is purely meant to make fun of an entire race of people. On the other hand, Downey Jr's character was making fun of an overenthusiastic method actor.

I see a huge difference between these two:

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Response to Tropic Thunder, Really? 2009-02-23 13:00:21

I thought that he did an amazing job in that movie...and the movie was funny as hell. its not racist to make black jokes, its only racist if you really hate them.


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Response to Tropic Thunder, Really? 2009-02-23 13:05:29

I think the end of racism will come not by forcing people to not make notice of race, but when everybody realises that it's just a fact of life and means little so lets have fun with it.

If you make it taboo, it'll always seem like the forbidden fruit. The racist jokes will be funnier and the desire to tell them greater because they present a greater shock.

If everybody would just realize race doesn't matter and just learn to laugh at themselfs and each other, no one joke would be any worse then the next and people would just give up on picking on race only because it doesn't provide any added bonus... no shock points.

In the rare case race jokes do appear, they're interipted as just simply a "joke" and nobody every thinks racisim is a part of it. Joking a black guy is the same as joking a white guy and thus racisim kills itself.

You can't force racisim out of existance... it only dies through complete and utter acceptance. Accpetance means excepting both the positive and the negitive aspects of the culture.

When some black comedian makes a black movie where all the white characters are stuck up nerds and business men nobody complaigns... so why bitch when it happens the other way around? Sounds like the only racism here, is coming from you.


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Response to Tropic Thunder, Really? 2009-02-23 13:11:42

At 2/23/09 01:05 PM, DroopyA spoke:

Truth

Not to mention, when was the last time 'racist' jokes were actually about race and not the hip-hop culture or racial hypersensitivity?

This movie doesn't make fun of black people. In fact, there are few jokes even about Downey's character at all. The one I can thin of is when he says "What do you mean, 'you people'" which is a blatant joke about exactly the topic of this thread: people who can't relax a little.


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Response to Tropic Thunder, Really? 2009-02-23 13:26:51

At 2/23/09 10:37 AM, JackPhantasm wrote:

It's just sad though.

It wouldn't be a problem if it was funny. It wasn't.

And if you think it was. Guess what, you're a racist fuck.

I'm offended by people that call me a racist fuck when they clearly dont know me, and when I clearly am not. Funny is funny from any angle so deal with it. And to quote,
"Well, if you paid closer attention to his statements, you'd realize that Downey's character is meant to lampoon the ignorant actors of yesteryear who used to perpetuate the older stereotypical characteristics of black people."

"In other words, he's making fun of racist actors from the past."

What part of that dont you get? The movie is a spoof of spoof movies, a pisstake of pisstake movies, if that is beyond your comprehension then that is clearly your own problem. Also I notice your not defending the retarded people of the world, (even though they cop a hammering in the movie also) just the blacks, so it would seem "you" must have an issue with retarded people then, which I find a little hypocritical myself. Time for you to grow a sense of humour.

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Response to Tropic Thunder, Really? 2009-02-23 13:38:12

Yeah, it wasn't that good for a download. Some parts were a little funny but meh, waste of 700MB.


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Response to Tropic Thunder, Really? 2009-02-23 13:43:23

At 2/23/09 12:54 PM, Halvgoeden wrote:
I see a huge difference between these two:

I realize what the movie is.

But I don't think you realize how many people laughed at that for the wrong reasons.

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Response to Tropic Thunder, Really? 2009-02-23 13:45:05

Again people confuse my statement about society for a misunderstanding of what the movie was.

It's a straight-forward movie. And it's basically saying, "Racism is funny."

No matter how you look at it.

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Response to Tropic Thunder, Really? 2009-02-23 14:05:59

ok jack. your wrong. his character is making fun of 'blackface' actors.

just because the uneducated sheep interpret the movie the wrong way doesnt mean it was made to be interpreted that way.

i understood it the right way.

what about simple jack? some people think that it makes fun of retards, but its making fun of the actors who try too hard to be retarded in a movie.

your wrong.


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Response to Tropic Thunder, Really? 2009-02-23 14:07:52

Tropic thunder was so not funny but i wasnt offended. I just really wanted my money back...


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Response to Tropic Thunder, Really? 2009-02-23 16:26:08

At 2/23/09 02:05 PM, ChaDMcBaDD wrote:
what about simple jack? some people think that it makes fun of retards, but its making fun of the actors who try too hard to be retarded in a movie.

Well that wasn't funny either.

A spoof of a racist practice is still a spoof of RACISM.

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Response to Tropic Thunder, Really? 2009-02-23 16:28:00

It also wouldn't be a problem if he for real played a black person, either.

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Response to Tropic Thunder, Really? 2009-02-23 16:29:48

That movie was funny.

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Response to Tropic Thunder, Really? 2009-02-23 16:30:37

At 2/23/09 04:29 PM, AlStOrthevilclown wrote: That movie was funny.

No. No it wasn't. Not even Tom Cruise.

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Response to Tropic Thunder, Really? 2009-02-23 16:54:04

At 2/23/09 10:37 AM, JackPhantasm wrote:
At 2/23/09 10:25 AM, Metal-Sonic-v2 wrote: You shouldn't waste your time getting offended by other people's actions. Where's the happiness in that?
It's just sad though.

It wouldn't be a problem if it was funny. It wasn't.

And if you think it was. Guess what, you're a racist fuck.

So, if it's funny and racist, it's OK? However, if it's not funny, but tries to be, then it's just racist? I don't see the logic there. I know you're a regular user, so I can't tell if you're trolling or not.

Also, what about black people who find it funny? Are they racist of their own race?

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Response to Tropic Thunder, Really? 2009-02-23 16:54:24

For the record 30 Rock is also a racist piece of shit.

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Response to Tropic Thunder, Really? 2009-02-23 17:04:22

Hey, they had a black guy talk about the role.


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Response to Tropic Thunder, Really? 2009-02-23 17:04:58

At 2/23/09 05:04 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote: Hey, they had a black guy talk about the role.

And Cuba looked angry the entire time.

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Response to Tropic Thunder, Really? 2009-02-23 17:09:10

They're making fun of Hollywood, not black people..

Idgit.


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Response to Tropic Thunder, Really? 2009-02-23 17:23:33

At 2/23/09 05:09 PM, Jizzlebang wrote: They're making fun of Hollywood, not black people..

Idgit.

So Hollywood = a bunch of racist/bigoted people?

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Response to Tropic Thunder, Really? 2009-02-23 17:40:05

Boo-fucking-hoo. Racism exists, and will always exist. The sooner you realize that and accept it, the sooner this gets over with. And besides, what's wrong with laughing at jokes that you call "racist"? As long as you're not racist, why does it matter? What about blonde jokes? Because they're about people with a certain hair color, they must be offensive. Pretty much all jokes come at someone's expense, get over it.


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Response to Tropic Thunder, Really? 2009-02-23 17:41:27

I agree, I didn't see the movie, but friends told me that some of the movie was racist, and that I shouldn't watch it.

I'm fairly cynical, and it annoys them when I rant on about something.
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Response to Tropic Thunder, Really? 2009-02-23 17:45:02

At 2/23/09 05:23 PM, JackPhantasm wrote:
At 2/23/09 05:09 PM, Jizzlebang wrote: They're making fun of Hollywood, not black people..

Idgit.
So Hollywood = a bunch of racist/bigoted people?

Yes. That's the whole premise of the film. The lengths they go to, in order to create movies. Becoming black and going into vietnam and all that shit.


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Response to Tropic Thunder, Really? 2009-02-23 17:49:54

At 2/23/09 10:06 AM, JackPhantasm wrote: Hey no I won't calm down until it's not acceptable to make a mockery of someone's ethnicity.

There were a few racist things in there, I do admit, but really, calm down. Being racist about something is offending, but when you are racist about blacks AND whites, then I would deem it OK. I mean come on, laugh a little. Sometimes, even laughing at yourself is OK.


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Response to Tropic Thunder, Really? 2009-02-23 17:50:33

At 2/23/09 10:01 AM, JackPhantasm wrote: I saw that movie, and I was offended.

Are you fucking kidding me?

Wah wah. Whiny bitch. It's just crude humor you pussy.


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Response to Tropic Thunder, Really? 2009-02-23 17:51:41

At 2/23/09 05:40 PM, DeathNoteetoNhtaeD wrote: Boo-fucking-hoo. Racism exists, and will always exist. The sooner you realize that and accept it, the sooner this gets over with.

Did you just tell me to accept racism?

Hey let's accept nazis that kill people too.

Let's accept the fact that for decades people were fucking shot for the color their skin.

Let's accept the crusades.

Let's accept Hiroshima.

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Response to Tropic Thunder, Really? 2009-02-23 17:52:04

At 2/23/09 10:06 AM, JackPhantasm wrote:
At 2/23/09 10:03 AM, life wrote: calm down
Hey no I won't calm down until it's not acceptable to make a mockery of someone's ethnicity.

If you thought that was racist you should see other films.

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Response to Tropic Thunder, Really? 2009-02-23 17:52:56

The movie was hilarious, and it wasn't to specifically make fun of African Americans. If you don't want to live in a country where we can do as we please in these lightest of freedoms, then get the hell out.

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Response to Tropic Thunder, Really? 2009-02-23 17:56:56

I could sum this all up right now.

"BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW."

Thank you for your time.