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This scenario is so blatantly unbelievable that any sane person with a Political Science degree would tell you to stick with what you know.

Which is probably not fucking much.

Do you KNOW how the world works? I'll tell you this. Russia, right now, is in no position to call itself a global power regaurdless what kind of Tom Clancey game you just got finished playing.

China actually has a huge investment in the United States that includes American companies being located in the country and their buying up of the US debt.

The closest North Korea could ever come to Nuclear weapons was .5 kiloton weapon (with your average non-tactical Nuclear bomb being 500 kilotons). So North Korea essentially has a Nuclear firecracker.

Dude, seriously, read some books that AREN'T fantasy.

At 2/17/09 03:56 PM, super6nacho wrote:
Any second Putin will appoint himself Czar and take over the goverment to make communistic, what will happen to China could go in many ways:

Where is your evidence that Putin is even "communistic"?

Also, Putin is not Russian President these days, he's the Prime Minister - Dmitriy Medvedev has been Russian President since last May, and has two deputies. It's unlikely he could overthrow Medvedev and not have at least one of Zubkov and Shuvalov strike back with extreme prejudice.

They could

1.Join forces
2.Fight back
3.Surrender

Or, China could be an indepedent body - they have the armed forces and the hardware to repel any attempt at invasion, Russian or otherwise. Believe it or now, the Cold War has finished, and there isn't a Second World clique anymore. The main reason China are supportive of Kim Jong-Il in any fashion is to avoid a massive emigration into China along the border. China voted in support of sanctions against NK when they tested their nuclear device, as well as when they tested missiles.

Another thing that contributes to the cause of WWlll is that there is North Korea which has Nuclear Arms of Mass Destuction, a hatered for the US, and a huge army.

What got me at the time: everyone wrung their hands in worry at NK having a nuclear weapon...which they'd already set off, taking their arsenal to 0. Besides, they have Russia and China on two fronts, so acting out might not be the best idea they could have.

And if the war does break out what will happen to Japan?

All Japan need is for their Maritime Self-Defense Force and Air Self-Defense Force to perform - Japan has one advantage many nations do not - they're an island, so have two large natural defences: teh South China Sea, and the Pacific Ocean.

Of course, you're not thinking laterally - who will ally with who? For all you know, East Asia might not be an arena of war, with China, NK, Japan and Russia joining forces to declare was on Zimbabwe.

Eruope

Okay well russia will just crush through Europe

Not if they're allied with the rest of Europe against somewhere else.

Middle East

Isreal, Palestines, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, and Afghansitan will all bitch and complain about goverment and religous rights

Or Iran, Egypt, Palestine, Lebanon and Syria all think "Fuck it", and waste Israel in a combined effort. That took a lot less time than anyone could've predicted.

Or Iran could do what they were going to do ten years ago, and smash the shit out of the Taliban in Afghanistan, just to show the US how it's done.

So any other ideas?

New Zealand will have the least to do of all English-speaking countries, whilst South America and West Africa are safe because nobody wants to invade, as no equation can make it seem like a good idea.

Also do you think WWlll will be a nuclear war?

No, everyone will be too busy trying not to use the word that it ends in mutally-assured non-destruction. Either that or somebody in Karachi sends a joke e-mail that gets lost in translation, and Tehran decide to test out their WMD nobody but George W Bush said they have, which confuses everyone because nobody thought Iran would ever attack Pakistan, let alone nuke it. This move, after a couple of weeks of thinking, makes them an ally of India and Israel, so therefore they're now the good guys.

Putin is a real problem.He is the Prime Minister,but he commands the President.In one of Nostradamus previsions (yeah,I dont beliave a lot in previsions,but most of the times Nostradamus were right,and this prvision is not generic,in this prevision Nostradamus only missed the day that Putin started his politic carrer by some days) ,there was that the Great Mongol King will return.Remember who was the Great Mongol King?Genghis Khan.He conquered most part of the world.Putin may also want to conquer the world.The big difference,is that horroble things may happen if he uses Atomic weapons,and the others nation counter-attack...

The problem with Nostradamus (other than it's all bollocks), is there are people who will bend themselves out of shape to make an interpetation of his laundry list, rather than look at what it says in front of them and admit he needed to get skid marks out of his boxers - for example, the way everyone was trying to say he predicted 9/11 - despite the fact there's no way to interpret any writings as such.

Besides, Mongol King? Mongolia doesn't have a king, and Mongolia shares a border with China as well as Russia, so shouldn't we be wary of Hu Jintao as well - or, if we are to be interpretive, couldn't that also include Kim Jong-Il? And then there's the issue of the Mongol Empire stretching from the far east of China, through Asia to Baghdad and Moscow.

Indeed, if you want to be literal, here is a map of the Mongol Empire at its height - so, India, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Poland and Hungary can also have been predicted as a threat to...well, whatever.

"World War II" is called that mostly because it was caused by the problems left unsolved by World War I. Hitler's big motivation was that the Germans would get their revenge on Europe. The two wars happened 21 years apart, which isn't too long. After we established United Nations, we managed to better get along with countries, as the previous League of Nations after World War I didn't work to maintain peace.

Even if there was a huge world war, it may not even be called "World War III" simply because it wasn't directly related to the two previous world wars.

At 2/22/09 06:10 PM, Ericho wrote: Even if there was a huge world war, it may not even be called "World War III" simply because it wasn't directly related to the two previous world wars.

I understand your point, but I thought the criteria for a world war was that it was fought worldwide. World War II, for example, was fought in Europe, Asia, and the South Pacific, by powers in Europe, Asia, Oceania, and North America, hence circling the globe. If the US, EU, Russia, and China all get involved in the same war, then it's the same situation. You effectively have World War III.

At 2/22/09 11:26 PM, Dawnslayer wrote:

At 2/22/09 06:10 PM, Ericho wrote: Even if there was a huge world war, it may not even be called "World War III" simply because it wasn't directly related to the two previous world wars.

I understand your point, but I thought the criteria for a world war was that it was fought worldwide. World War II, for example, was fought in Europe, Asia, and the South Pacific, by powers in Europe, Asia, Oceania, and North America, hence circling the globe. If the US, EU, Russia, and China all get involved in the same war, then it's the same situation. You effectively have World War III.

Wait, the term "world war" is somewhat ambiguous. How many countries would have to be there to consider it something of that size? And when I think of war, I think of just two countries fighting, but surely there've been many other wars throughout history where at least three countries declared war officially.

Does anyone know any?

In Europe many psychics have predicted 1st, 2nd and a 3rd world war - they were right about the 2 first world wars, and they agree upon how the 3rd world war will happen. Here is a link to a selection of such prophecies: http://www.jrnyquist.com/may14/new_page_
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This is the short version about the outbreak, duration and end of the 3rd world war:

It will occur in August 2010. Everybody will be talking about "peace in our time" at this time, so nobody will suspect anything, when Russia suddenly launches a paralysing nuclear attack on USA and conventional war in Europe. The German civilians will attempt to flee in their cars, but anybody who gets in the way of the Russian army will be killed - it will be safer to stay home. There will be nowhere to flee to, because the whole world will be in flames. A part of UK will disappear into the sea due to a nuclear bomb, which falls in the North Sea and consequently creates a giant tsunami-like wave hitting all the coasts of the North Sea.

A counter-attack will cut off the Russians' supply lines and split its army into two parts. Just after the pope has escaped the earth will experience a cosmic catastrophe, which will cover the earth in darkness for 3 days. No electricity will work during the darkness, only candles will give light. During this period, earth quakes will happen everywhere. It is a good idea to store water and food for these 3 days in advance. People should stay indoors and cover and seal their windows, because if they go outside, they will die from poison in the air. After 72 hours this nightmare will be over.

The European army will be small in the beginning, but it will gradually grow in size and strength until its final victory in Germany near Ulm. A part of the loosing Russian army will invade Denmark, but since these soldiers are not under any kind of command or discipline, they will be defeated by the Danish, even though the latter are outnumbered. Italy will be invaded, and the pope will flee. The war ends in the spring of 2011 or 2012 with the defeat of the Russians. The real reason for the Russian defeat is a revolution that breaks out in Russia. This revolution will happen just before Easter. The people of Russia never wanted war, but they were seduced by their leaders. A great part of the earths population will have been killed during this war, which will end all wars. A new era will begin, in which all people will be united in the same faith, which will be different from any conventional religions existing today. A new spirit of love and helpfulness will reign from now on.

The above description is a compilation of several historical soothsayers' written account - among which four have predicted the 1st and 2nd world war accurately. The date for the outbreak of the war is calculated with the help of astrology and inspired from the work by French astrologer Andre Barbault - he is famous for having pointed out specific planetary patterns, which occur in times when great wars break out, and others, which occur, when peace is re-established.

Look, we have an economic crisis, which experts compare with the great depression, which started in 1929 and ended with the second world war. We have a restless Russia, which by its nature can be compared with Germany in the 1930s. All the Russian people care about is strong leadership and nationalism. Russia still hasn't destroyed its nuclear arms. And we have a new American president, who is likely to cut down military expenses and negotiate peace with former enemies. A nuclear war between super powers can only be won, if it comes as a complete surprise, i.e. peace negotiations must take place beforehand. Everything fits the build-up to a third world war, as described in the prophecies.

All this is "nice to know" stuff - but what should we do? Personally I try to warn as many people as possible while calming myself with the religious belief that death is not the end of everything. Prayers, love and meditation are our only weapons.

At 3/4/09 09:56 AM, Vikingo wrote: In Europe many psychics have predicted 1st, 2nd and a 3rd world war - they were right about the 2 first world wars, and they agree upon how the 3rd world war will happen. Here is a link to a selection of such prophecies: http://www.jrnyquist.com/may14/new_page_
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The website is rather interesting I read most of it and found it to be very similar to the previous World Wars, but whether that is coincidence, fate, or the psychics are betting on the last one being similar to the previous two I don't know.

This is the short version about the outbreak, duration and end of the 3rd world war:

It will occur in August 2010. Everybody will be talking about "peace in our time" at this time, so nobody will suspect anything,

OK, Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain said he had achieved "peace in our time" when he dealt with Hitler and gave him Poland, so if anyone tells me we have achieved "peace in our time" I'm getting the fuck out of here, and I think many of those who read their history books would to.

Also, it's very curious that it would occur in 2010, as the Mayan apocalypse is supposed to occur on December 24, two years later.

when Russia suddenly launches a paralysing nuclear attack on USA and conventional war in Europe.

Stop RIGHT THERE. The Russians know not to fuck with us, at least not directly. So, unless, in the next year, the US does a totally stupid and complete disarmament of our nuclear weapons cache, we will rain fire down on the Kremlin, and might even go all the way out with an Intercontinental Ballistic Missile, which if loaded with a nuclear payload, could really fuck their shit up for centuries.

A part of UK will disappear into the sea due to a nuclear bomb, which falls in the North Sea and consequently creates a giant tsunami-like wave hitting all the coasts of the North Sea.

Ok now we're getting ridiculous. A nuclear attack, probably not even an ICBM impact can SINK a continent, we're talking about the instant destruction long-standing geologic areas that are on top of the tectonic plates, and therefore, no bomb can SINK them.

Italy will be invaded, and the pope will flee.

But you already said that! How does the Pope flee Italy when he has already fled? I doubt he would come back when war was still going on!

:The war ends in the spring of 2011 or 2012 with the defeat of the Russians. The real reason for the Russian defeat is a revolution that breaks out in Russia.

Another one? Are you sure you're not mixing science fiction into the first world war and adding a bunch of crazy?

A new era will begin, in which all people will be united in the same faith, which will be different from any conventional religions existing today. A new spirit of love and helpfulness will reign from now on.

Ok.... so you're saying we experienced basically all of Revelations within 2 years.

Look, we have an economic crisis, which experts compare with the great depression, which started in 1929 and ended with the second world war. We have a restless Russia, which by its nature can be compared with Germany in the 1930s. All the Russian people care about is strong leadership and nationalism. Russia still hasn't destroyed its nuclear arms. And we have a new American president, who is likely to cut down military expenses and negotiate peace with former enemies. A nuclear war between super powers can only be won, if it comes as a complete surprise, i.e. peace negotiations must take place beforehand. Everything fits the build-up to a third world war, as described in the prophecies.

OK, I Agree that President Obama, of all people, is more than likely to play Neville Chamberlain. But you underestimate that American spirit that in the past, when faced with horrible attacks on our country, we totally fuck their shit up. Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto said after the horrible attack on Pearl Harbor, "I fear we have only awakened a sleeping giant, and filled him with a terrible resolve." He was right.

Listen to me. We build superfluously large structures for entertainment. We DESTROY AND BLOW SHIT UP for FUN! Now imagine what we do when you piss us off!

All this is "nice to know" stuff - but what should we do? Personally I try to warn as many people as possible while calming myself with the religious belief that death is not the end of everything. Prayers, love and meditation are our only weapons.

And a boot up someone's ass.

A year ago nobody expected the present economic crisis. Now the crisis is here, and it has hit US and the rest of the capitalistic world very hard - and it is getting worse all the time. USA ows so much money to rich people in Saudi Arabia and China that it is not possible to pay it back, even if all American valuables were turned into money. That's a fact.

In the meantime China and Russia have grown in economic strength - even if these countries have been hit by the crisis too. For instance, Western Europe, in particular Germany, depends on oil and gas from Russia, who gets richer and richer every day. That's why nobody in EU objects against attrocities agains human rights in Russia. This is also a fact.

Now, imagine these two trends projected into the future, say 1.5 years ahead, and you can understand my worries regarding a potential world war 3.

There is a parallel between the crisis in the capitalistic world and the socialistic collapse in the beginning of the 1990s. The reason for the socialistic collapse was one-sided plan economy for decades, while the West, thanks to democracy, in the same decades used a mixture of the capitalism and socialism. When capitalism had won its victory, the Western world turned to a one-sided capitalism, while the socialistic countries changed their economies to a mixture of capitalism and socialism. This mixture is the recipy for economic success.

American president Ronald Reagan had a doctrine: If a nuclear war was to be fought, it had to be limited - it had to be fought outside North America, preferably in Europe - that way USA would not risk destruction. Guess what - the Sovjet leaders also had an idea about limited nuclear war - in North America - only they didn't have to blabber out about it, since they didn't have any democratic control. Any journalist who speaks in favour of democratic control in Russia is killed by the way.

If you look at history, every empire has had its time. Sometime an empires was long-lived like the Roman empire or the British Victorian empire - but sooner or later they either vanished or was diminished. That's a fact too. Since WW2 USA has been considered a super power - but even that will come to an end.

I am not trying to preach any kind of nationalism - I am trying to make a wake up call here. Everything I have said so far comes from written sources or else it can be deducted with logic from the available facts. Please look at what I am saying from an objective point of view instead of trying to punish the messenger, because you don't like the message!

Also, I am not making political arguments here - the funny thing is that the prophecies exist on the most conservative websites on the Internet, while I myself am kind of liberal. My political allies hate me for making these warnings, while my political opponents listen - it's weird.

Anyway, some of the seers say that after WW3 USA will still exist, but it will be split in 4 or 5 independent states. I mean it is not like everybody is going to be killed in North America according to these visionaries.

As for UK I stated that "a part of it" will sink into the sea - the seers state that this part of UK will be the northern part of Scotland, while the rest of Britain and London in particular will experience a devastating flood, which will paralyse the country and the defense systems.

As for the pope fleeing, it is true that I mention his fleeing from Rome twice - pardon me - but it is not easy to make a brief compilation of so many statements as in this case without repeating some of the statements.

As for the Mayan apocalypse, it only states that the Mayan calender ends in 2012 - it is an end of all this age - i.e. it marks the end of WW3 and the beginning of the new era. It is not the beginning of the Apocalypse, it is the end.

I think that in today's society, it is unlikely. The United Nations was created as a way of preventing this. In fact, World War I ended with the foundation of the League of Nations, which failed. Unless the UN crumbles (and it's been holding strong for decades) there should not be a war of such magnitude.

At 3/4/09 02:22 PM, Ericho wrote: I think that in today's society, it is unlikely. The United Nations was created as a way of preventing this. In fact, World War I ended with the foundation of the League of Nations, which failed. Unless the UN crumbles (and it's been holding strong for decades) there should not be a war of such magnitude.

If the League of Nations could fail, then the United Nations can also fail. The fact that the United Nations have been strong for decades means nothing; before WW1 there had been peace in Europe for decades - in fact there had been peace in Europe since the Napoleonic wars - Napoleon died May 5 1821, WW1 was started June 28 1914.

The United Nations have only got as much power as its members give it. If some of its members decide to trick the rest of the world, then there is nothing the United Nations can do about it.

But you can only compare with history so far; the invention and spreading of nuclear weapons have changed the rules of war dramatically. As I have said above, the success of a nuclear attack depends totally on the fact that the attack comes as a complete surprise - just like 9-11 was possible, because it came as a complete surprise.

There is a proverb that says "Pride goes before destruction." It means in this connection that if the generals and the politicians are aware of the threat from Russia, then they can prevent it. But our present leaders are only concerned with Islamic terrorists. I have had several discussions about this subject with high-ranking NATO officers during the past year. They repeat that they believe the cold war is over and that Russia is no threat to the west. They turn the blind eye to the fact that Putin and his party is re-establishing Stalin's status as a Russian hero - even though Stalin was responsible for the killing of more than 30 million Russians!

History has a way of repeating itself. Germany started WW2, because it had been humiliated after WW1 with the Versailles-treaty. Russia will start WW3, because it was humiliated, when socialism broke down and the Berlin Wall was demolished in the beginning of the 1990s. The present Russian leaders will not tolerate a similar humiliation in the future - that's why they will launch the attack in 2010.

You just have to put your ear against the ground and listen to see that I am the right = study what is going in Russia, the mentality and the rethorics. The problem is that only little news from Russia is reaching the West - our journalists are more concerned with events in the entertainment industry than with international politics.

At 3/4/09 05:23 PM, KemCab wrote: As far as the rest of your post goes, Russia is too weak militarily to do anything and chances are Putin will not risk a nuclear war with the United States over pride.

The question is not if Russia is too weak militarily - the question is: How weak is USA going to be militarily in the future after 1,5 years of economic crisis. President Obama is planning to make deep cuts in the military in order half the American deficit. President Obama has an economic and ideological interest in making peace treatys with Russia. Look at the trend, for God's sake!

Let me give an example of Russian strength compared to American strength. In 1957 the world witnessed the so-called Sputnik-shock: Suddenly Russia was ahead of USA in the space-race, when they launched a Sputnik orbiting planet earth. How could this happen? While Americans spent millions of dollars on scientific research on how to develop a ballpoint pen that could write under weightless conditions, the Russians simply brought a pencil and a pencil sharpener(!)

History is full of similar examples, where a highly sophisticated culture is overrun by a a more primitive (but also more efficient) culture. How many surprise attacks did Rome experience from savage and so-called "barbarian" tribes? The Muslims were thrown out of Spain by Philip and Isabella for the same reason more than 500 years ago. The Russians consider the west to be decadent - and they see this decadence as a sign of weakness. For the Russian military it's just a matter of waiting for the right moment.

The thing that is very disturbing right now - and the reason why I bother to discuss this matter - is that classical communism is experiencing a revival in Russia right now - the worshipping of Stalin is back - the human right violations happen all the time against anybody Russian, who object against the present development in Russia - Russia is run by gangsters and murderers - and the West does absolutely nothing - we are too engulfed in our own petty problems. Wake up!

At 3/4/09 09:29 PM, Ershin2009 wrote: The Prophecy mentioned earlier might be right, but they are probably missing something:
Latin America and the Middle East are likely to side with Russia, and even help them however they can, by providing strategical locations (Latin America) from which to further attacks against the USA, or by providing fanatical jihadists (Islamic Nations charging against Israel while stuff is going on elsewhere). Pakistan might try to charge against India and China against Taiwan. ALL of them have anti USA sentiments.

The prophecies I have presented in this forum is a compilation of many testimonies. There are plenty of these prophecies about WW3 - what I have presented to you is what most of the seers agree upon. For instance the mentioning of a an explosion is in the North Sea causing a tsunami against the North Sea coasts (UK, Holland, Belgium, Germany, Denmark and Norway) is mentioned by several seers. While what appears to be a nuclear attack on USA is only mentioned by one or two.

You should also know that most of these seers are locally oriented - only a few like Swedish Anton Johansson and Irlmaier from Germany get a glimpse of what is happening globally, e.g. that China invades India simultaneously with the Russian aggression, and that Australia goes free of the entire war - apparently not one bomb will fall over Australia. The striking thing is that the locally oriented (European) seers seem to be consistent on even minor details. For instance, almost all of them say that the war ends with at final battle at a place called "The Birchtree" (Birkenbaum) - but today nobody knows where this place is, except that it seems to be in central Germany.

I cannot say what will happen in Latin America, because none of the seers mention Latin America. But you can count on this: Big events create big shadows, meaning that e.g. when Titanic went down it was foreseen and predicted by many psychics, because it was such a big event. If you want to know what will happen in Latin America, you should research traditions in these countries - try to find out, what local seers have said about the future for their countries.

As for Islamic terrorism, maybe you will have to use chimpanzee logic to understand what is going on. A group of chimpanzees are usually lead by an alpha male - sometimes a group of alpha males - at other times even by an alpha female. You can be sure of one thing though: Since an alpha male will try to prevent the lower-ranking males to mate with the females, one or more of the lower-ranking males will sooner or later challenge the alpha male in order to have sex with the females.

In present politics, where USA is the only superpower left, the alpha male could be called Uncle Sam - and some of the lower ranking males could be Vodka and Al-Quaida. Vodka used to run the world together with Uncle Sam, but since Uncle Sam became the only alpha male, Al-Quaida has tried to challenge Uncle Sam, even though Al-Quaida definitely does not possess the strength to become the dominating alpha male. In the mean time Vodka is watching and waiting, apparently peacefully and in alliance with Uncle Sam. Al-Quaida is definitely distracting Uncle Sam... I am sure you can finish the tale!

An alliance between China and Russia seem obvious, because these two countries share ideology in the same way that Germany and Japan made alliance during WW2. But an alliance between Russia and Arab countries will not happen, because of Russian oppression of Muslims in Tchetchenia.

American scientists are far with inventing technology that can make planes and rockets invisible on radar screens. If the Russians obtain this technology they don't depend on an alliance with Latin American countries like Venezuela or Cuba to attack USA.

World Wars ended with Cold War.

Information nowadays are stronger than weapons.

World War is about Manpower and Raw Strength. 2nd World War were different days, were the last days of Head-to-Head Combat.

Now country will start a war, except Small Conflicts which don't involve many countries.

Well, forget about 3rd World War, only if technology could boost a Singular Individual to Survive Agaisnt bullets, Bombs and Nuclear Waste.

At 3/5/09 03:38 AM, Togetherweburn wrote: World Wars ended with Cold War.

Information nowadays are stronger than weapons.

World War is about Manpower and Raw Strength. 2nd World War were different days, were the last days of Head-to-Head Combat.

Now country will start a war, except Small Conflicts which don't involve many countries.

Well, forget about 3rd World War, only if technology could boost a Singular Individual to Survive Agaisnt bullets, Bombs and Nuclear Waste.

As long as our politicians and military leaders keep repeating the above mentioned mantras (as they in fact do presently) a third world war is not only possible - it is inevitable, especially since Russia has never destroyed its own nuclear arm arsenal.

The Russian leaders live in a completely different world than the one you and I are living in. They don't care about the risks, because human lives matter less in their world than they do here. Their parallel world is much more like the world of street gangs.

For instance, last year the Russians sent a submarine to the North Pole and planted a flag on the bottom of the sea in order to claim the ressources underneath - as if we were still living in colonial times, where explorers could claim parts of Africa, Asia or Latin America in the name of the king!

You write "Information nowadays are stronger than weapons." But how do you focus on the right information, when you receive information overflow? What is important? Hollywood gossip, Islamic fundamentalism, or industrial espionage? Yes, there is evidence that the military's Echelon, which was built to survey and listen in on the Internet traffic, has been used for industral espionage to enrich a few instead of protecting the citizens. 9-11 could only happen, because military institutions didn't care about Al-Quaida before it was too late. They were too busy with other agendas.

At 3/4/09 05:23 PM, KemCab wrote:

At 3/4/09 03:09 PM, Vikingo wrote: If the League of Nations could fail, then the United Nations can also fail.

Except the former was completely half-assed and not even the US joined in, nor did it have any say in international law to begin with.

Not to mention it didn't last very long. The UN has lasted for decades and it would take something really strong to destroy it. Not that I'm saying it could never happen, I'm just trying to be optimistic.

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At 3/8/09 05:24 AM, bloodthirstypanda wrote: WW3 will be Radiation free.
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I know the BBS doesn't let you preview your stuff. But next time you try something like this, please try to make sure it works first.

At 3/8/09 05:24 AM, bloodthirstypanda wrote: WW3 will be Radiation free.
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Uh, I don't get it.

M.A.D. means

mutual assured destruction.

He just messed up. While WWIII may happen, it isn't probable. The world is so close-knit now, with every country in an alliance with another, that a world war would be pointless. No country would gain anything from it.

Whoever keeps saying that Russia will start it (forget your name..sorry) needs to stop believing in phony psychics and such. Russia has been in shambles since the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991. It's not going to start a war anytime soon.

At 3/8/09 10:18 PM, Bballdude9997 wrote: Whoever keeps saying that Russia will start it (forget your name..sorry) needs to stop believing in phony psychics and such. Russia has been in shambles since the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991. It's not going to start a war anytime soon.

Then what was South Ossetia? Not saying they'll start World War III - just that I don't want ignore it when it might be a bigger problem than we realize. (Nothing against Russians - just governments.)

WW3 simply won't happen, it's as easy as that. The new wars between super powers would be economical, just like the cold war. The threat of nukes makes it unlikely that a land war would ever occur between 2 nations with nukes ever again.

i bet you dont even know the difference between the ideologies of castro and the ideologies of sadam.

At 3/9/09 12:51 AM, Dawnslayer wrote:

At 3/8/09 10:18 PM, Bballdude9997 wrote: Whoever keeps saying that Russia will start it (forget your name..sorry) needs to stop believing in phony psychics and such. Russia has been in shambles since the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991. It's not going to start a war anytime soon.

Then what was South Ossetia? Not saying they'll start World War III - just that I don't want ignore it when it might be a bigger problem than we realize. (Nothing against Russians - just governments.)

I had forgotten about South Ossetia, thanks for reminding me. But I don't really count that as a major war, just a small conflict with a satellite they had. When I said "war" I really meant a major conflict between super powers that would obliterate WW2 records and numbers and would take years and years and millions upon millions of lives. Russia is not in a state to do something like that yet. Plus they tried to join NATO a few years back.

Ugh, stupid. WWIII (in the traditional sense of the major world powers fighting each other) isn't going to happen for a loooong time, if at all. First of all, the major nuclear powers are at about as much peace as we can realistically hope for. Sure, maybe we don't have the best relationships with the Russians or the Chinese, but our relationship with China is economically co-dependent (so I don't see us attacking each other at any point in the near future) and as for Russia, Putin doesn't want a nuclear war any more than the rest of us. Not only that, but the world just plain isn't in the financial position to be fighting that kind of war right now. In fact, it's in this time of global economic panic that the world is more likely to try to work together, to solve this issue at least.

That being said, there are two countries that are somewhat troubling to me in terms of nuclear war, though not necessarily World War: India and Pakistan. They're both major nuclear countries, and they have an ever-heightening seething hatred for one another. If the bombs do start flying, though, I doubt that the rest of the world would start taking sides, and even if they did, virtually all of the major first-world nations would side with India (again, economic co-dependence), so it's not much of a world war.

Sad as it may seem, this is probably about as close to world peace as we'll ever get.

WWIII is the unthinkable
if anyone is going to start the war it will be either Iran or China
with our economic problem people are going to pin our problems on China
after setting up tariffs on trade and eliminating free trade rights with most of US's allies/partners we are going to make a lot of enemies trying to fix our economy

It may not be to the extent of nuclear war but it will be centered in the Middle East, China, Europe, and even possibly the US

Why does it seem like everyone who says WWIII won't happen is citing nukes? Myself and plenty of others - not necessarily saying it will happen, but could - believe nukes are NOT likely to be used. (Except perhaps in the case of India vs. Pakistan.)

As for Russia, I honestly think the government was "testing the waters" in South Ossetia to see what they could get away with. It wasn't much, but there wasn't exactly global intervention either. Wrold War III? Maybe not. Expansionist policies? As far as I'm concerned every nation has them, and some are better equipped to do it than others.

People assume that nuclear weapons would be used in WW3, I disagree, I think a country would surrender before resorting to nuclear weapons that will only resort in its own destruction.

I think the next world war will be a non-nuclear one, weather or not the next world war will be within our lifetimes is unlikely but then again great country's have many allies so any normal war between them would turn into a world war fast.

But one thing is certain, if WW3 is fought with nuclear weapons, than the fourth will be fought with bows and spears.

Nah, Germany will fuck up once again.