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At 12/31/03 12:06 PM, ____bumcheekcity____ wrote: Is Jizzle Jimsween?

Do I have to point out the obvious?

At 12/29/03 02:33 PM, ____bumcheekcity____ wrote:

At 12/29/03 01:46 PM, JamsterBoyo wrote: I think we should beat out of Saddam seeing as he was "linked" to Al Qaeda.

He wasn't though. The CIA gave Osama money, and trained him. Maybe we should beat it out of them.

Just a little history lesson, the CIA never gave Osama money. What the US did do was give Pakistan the money in the 1980s to train the mujahideen to fight the 1979 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. However, the Pakistanis used this money to train islamic militants who after expelling the Soviets would be useful in their conflict with India.

Not to apologize for the CIA (actually quite the opposite), but they probably did not realize what the money and training was completely going for because of limitations on area knowledge of the Middle East and Islam led the CIA to simply give money to allies in the region (ie-Pakistan and the Shah's Iran) to handle things.

As for Osama being important, taking him out will not really do us any good because 1) it would Martyr him and serve as a rallying cry and 2) it would only be one head among a 1,000 headed hydra.

If any one wants to bring up Saddam in relation to point 1, remember his is not considered a good Islamic leader by many Islamists and he was found cowering in a rat hole and was taken without firing a single shot.

At 12/31/03 04:36 AM, ____bumcheekcity____ wrote: You never spoke a truer word. It's the media who tell you of all these completely bollocks facts and figures designed to scare you and make you think every single guy with a beard and a funny accent is going to fly a plane into your house.

Indeed, just imagine how uneffective terrirism would be if the media didn'y bring it into the homes of every human beings with a TV or newspaper subscription or internet access, etc.